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Is there a "hidden jem" place to live left in America?
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AZ and NM. Isn't it, like, 125º there?
Yes, miserable, too many Californians, hell there are so many Californians here the Illegals have left, mostly headed to Penciltuckey and Illanoise..
It's good to shave your balls once in a while.
TiTRD
Red Skull Member
Small world. I visited Elton and Kinder about 10 years ago. Spent Christmas week there in 2010. A girl I used to date grew up in Elton.
I really liked that area. Never been in the summer, I'd probably melt.
In the low deserts, yes. Arizona is full of mountains too. New Mexico is the same way. Ever look at a map?
Wheelerfreak
Stunningly Average
AZ and NM. Isn't it, like, 125º there?
EXACTLY. The entire state all year round is 125+ and nothing but desert and tumbleweeds. Pass the word to prevent your friends from having to suffer NM.
YotaAtieToo
Thick skull
AZ and NM. Isn't it, like, 125º there?
Yep
I can deal with the heat, but I don't like living in it. I like living where I can open the windows at night and it's not still 90* I know people in chico who have to run their ac basically all night during the summer.
Wheelerfreak
Stunningly Average
I'd skip all three of those places. Santa Fe is the Berkeley of NM, ABQ is the state's hemorrhoid covered asshole, and Las Cruces is too hot with not enough mountains IMO. It depends on what you are looking for as far as proximity to amenities and how rural you want to live. The state is poor and seems to always vote blue with a tendency to get more blue as time goes on. Woods and Gary can continue to think the state is just like where Bugs Bunny shoulda turned left, but there is a pretty great diversity of terrain and weather.
woods
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Yes, but not close enough to care about your neck of the woods. Or mountains, apparently.
Actually now that you mention it, wasn't the final season of Breaking Bad filmed in NM? Forgot about that.
Roc Doc
2A SNBI
And Nevada too. It's the most mountainous state...or it might be Colorado or West Virginia depending on the criteria.
Roc Doc
2A SNBI
Near all the states are turning blue, sadly.
2A is obviously important, access to decent health care (wife has a condition that could turn bad), low state and or property taxes. Don't want to live in a metro area anymore, but don't want to drive an hour to buy groceries. Cooler temp, (anyplace is cooler than here), minimal snowfall would be fine, don't go to bars or restaurants or movie theaters so don't need any of that. Shit, since I got out of the business 5 years ago, I've only been to two concerts.
Roc Doc
2A SNBI
Yes, but not close enough to care about your neck of the woods. Or mountains, apparently.
Actually now that you mention it, wasn't the final season of Breaking Bad filmed in NM? Forgot about that.
I think all the seasons were filmed there. Dude I worked with in Vegas was a cousin to that fat kid dope dealer that got shot by the kid on the bicycle, got the part in an open casting call with no acting experience.
YotaAtieToo
Thick skull
And Nevada too. It's the most mountainous state...or it might be Colorado or West Virginia depending on the criteria.
Nevada is a bad example. It's almost like they intentionally outlined the most miserable area in the west, then someone said, wait wtf, can we at least have part of lake Tahoe so we can build casinos there 150 years from now?
Ive heard Elko has trees, but that's a ways from anything.
Weasel
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Black Hills Sodak.
Wheelerfreak
Stunningly Average
Sounds like the middle of the state is what you may be looking at then. I worked in ABQ for 25 years and really dislike that place, all the violence of a big city and none of the wages. I live up North along the NM/CO border and that would not fit your criteria since we get a lot of snow and it's at least an hour one way to a grocery store. East of ABQ out where Sceep lives may better fit your needs, aside from slightly more snow that melts fairly quickly anyway. Maybe he'll chime in on that area. SF and most of the area surrounding it can be pricey to buy into and it's a notoriously liberal area, with all the typical liberal restrictions. The state is fairly 2A friendly, easy to get a CCW license and you can carry whatever you want, however you want in your vehicle since the state recognizes your vehicle as an extension of your home.
Property taxes are low (I pay about 1200 a year on a fairly big house on acreage) and income taxes are 6% IIRC.
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Roc Doc
2A SNBI
There are some really beautiful parts of Nevada, but you have to know where to look. I always say when they were drawing up the states they drew a line around all the ugly desert and named it Nevada...except for the ugly part of CA where the Hammers are. As soon as you go into Utah or Arizona it's much nicer to look at.
Roc Doc
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YotaAtieToo
Thick skull
That basically what I just said
I haven't been all over Nevada, but up and down 395, through Winnemucca to Idaho, from Kingman to Vegas, to death valley to 395 and a cross 50 to cedar city. Almost anytime I've crossed the border out of Nevada, it immediately gets way nicer
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That's neat. But yea, I forgot all about the NH deal in the last season, that it was filmed in NM. Will admit, that I could have been convinced.
Slander
Team no stickys
Beautiful area!!
45acp
naw man
I know people in chico who have to run their ac basically all night during the summer.
Stay away from anything even remotely close to a confederate state. "OMG they have to run AC at night..."
Mother fucker you will die here. People die in the night with AC that went out and are found the next day a puddle of purple goo. If you think running AC at night is even remotely strange you need to stay west and/or stay north. I could cut the AC off when we all go to bed at night and Jim Jones my entire family.
TRINDU
PBB Orphan
The next 4 days are a high of 100 and low of 74. I sure wish a some a/c units would break and few Californians would suffer and move back.
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YotaAtieToo
Thick skull
We don't even have an a/c
How do swamp coolers work around there?
Like I said, I can deal with the heat, but I just don't like living in it.
I've worked in metal shops in Temps near 110* outside. You just sweat, drink water and get on with it. I love driving up the hill and feeling everything cool off.
I'd rather deal with more cold than more heat.
The dump truck at my job site today said Texarkana, of course 45acp popped into my head. I'm sure he's got at least 2 cousins that might have made that mud flap.
How do swamp coolers work around there?
Like I said, I can deal with the heat, but I just don't like living in it.
I've worked in metal shops in Temps near 110* outside. You just sweat, drink water and get on with it. I love driving up the hill and feeling everything cool off.
I'd rather deal with more cold than more heat.
The dump truck at my job site today said Texarkana, of course 45acp popped into my head. I'm sure he's got at least 2 cousins that might have made that mud flap.
45acp
naw man
Doubt it, my cousins aren't the type of dudes that have jobs or earn money.The dump truck at my job site today said Texarkana, of course 45acp popped into my head. I'm sure he's got at least 2 cousins that might have made that mud flap.
61scout80
Anchored. Finally.
I didn't read the posts, but if history is correct you kids all stayed exactly on topic, so here's my response.
Since 2006 I've had 14 addresses in 4 states. I've learned a lot. The statement "everywhere you go, there you are" is the most important thing. If you don't change to your new surroundings you'll still be miserable no matter what patch of dirt you live on. I've also learned that the places I like the most are the ones that everyone parrots the same negative phrases without thought.
I learned that I have demographic requirements similar to Costco. If I lived in an area that could support a Costco I was able to find the rest of the retail, entertainment and recreational things I like to have. If there wasn't a Costco where I lived I found myself driving to a nearby city with a one all too often. Not to go to Costco, but to for the rest of the stuff I like to do.
I'm in the outskirts of Louisville now. If you told me two years ago that I'd live in Kentucky I would have laughed at you. I had the stereotype in my head about the place. My wife had an interview here, so I made a list of impossible "must haves". An entire notebook page of things that were important to me, and we methodically checked off all but that last one. When I read off the final thing, which was "access to the ocean" my wife pointed out the airport. I was shocked with how much I liked it here. It's the first place that we lived where I had no feeling of regret for the first couple of months.
So, yes. there are still hidden gem cities all over the country, but there's a trick. They are where the people in CA, NY and similar low quality of life places speak poorly of. Really dig down on what you enjoy, what climate you like and the infrastructure you need to be comfortable, put that into Google Maps and see what you find. Go there and leave the old place behind. Yes, the pizza will suck, you'll think the old place did things better and you won't be able to find some things at the grocery store, but you'll discover a million new things that make you a better person.
Since 2006 I've had 14 addresses in 4 states. I've learned a lot. The statement "everywhere you go, there you are" is the most important thing. If you don't change to your new surroundings you'll still be miserable no matter what patch of dirt you live on. I've also learned that the places I like the most are the ones that everyone parrots the same negative phrases without thought.
I learned that I have demographic requirements similar to Costco. If I lived in an area that could support a Costco I was able to find the rest of the retail, entertainment and recreational things I like to have. If there wasn't a Costco where I lived I found myself driving to a nearby city with a one all too often. Not to go to Costco, but to for the rest of the stuff I like to do.
I'm in the outskirts of Louisville now. If you told me two years ago that I'd live in Kentucky I would have laughed at you. I had the stereotype in my head about the place. My wife had an interview here, so I made a list of impossible "must haves". An entire notebook page of things that were important to me, and we methodically checked off all but that last one. When I read off the final thing, which was "access to the ocean" my wife pointed out the airport. I was shocked with how much I liked it here. It's the first place that we lived where I had no feeling of regret for the first couple of months.
So, yes. there are still hidden gem cities all over the country, but there's a trick. They are where the people in CA, NY and similar low quality of life places speak poorly of. Really dig down on what you enjoy, what climate you like and the infrastructure you need to be comfortable, put that into Google Maps and see what you find. Go there and leave the old place behind. Yes, the pizza will suck, you'll think the old place did things better and you won't be able to find some things at the grocery store, but you'll discover a million new things that make you a better person.
Slander
Team no stickys
I didn't read the posts, but if history is correct you kids all stayed exactly on topic, so here's my response.
Since 2006 I've had 14 addresses in 4 states. I've learned a lot. The statement "everywhere you go, there you are" is the most important thing. If you don't change to your new surroundings you'll still be miserable no matter what patch of dirt you live on. I've also learned that the places I like the most are the ones that everyone parrots the same negative phrases without thought.
I learned that I have demographic requirements similar to Costco. If I lived in an area that could support a Costco I was able to find the rest of the retail, entertainment and recreational things I like to have. If there wasn't a Costco where I lived I found myself driving to a nearby city with a one all too often. Not to go to Costco, but to for the rest of the stuff I like to do.
I'm in the outskirts of Louisville now. If you told me two years ago that I'd live in Kentucky I would have laughed at you. I had the stereotype in my head about the place. My wife had an interview here, so I made a list of impossible "must haves". An entire notebook page of things that were important to me, and we methodically checked off all but that last one. When I read off the final thing, which was "access to the ocean" my wife pointed out the airport. I was shocked with how much I liked it here. It's the first place that we lived where I had no feeling of regret for the first couple of months.
So, yes. there are still hidden gem cities all over the country, but there's a trick. They are where the people in CA, NY and similar low quality of life places speak poorly of. Really dig down on what you enjoy, what climate you like and the infrastructure you need to be comfortable, put that into Google Maps and see what you find. Go there and leave the old place behind. Yes, the pizza will suck, you'll think the old place did things better and you won't be able to find some things at the grocery store, but you'll discover a million new things that make you a better person.
My wife and I just went through this same exercise. It's funny how people suddenly become purveyor of the local arts when you want to move. Example being we are moving to a much much smaller town that's not in a massive metro area than where we are now. My wife, who I can count in one hand how many times were ever went to downtown chicago to any of the surrounding areas, is concerned by the lack of arts in the area. We go to a comedy show and a concert once a year and have been to the symphony once, thing is there is a metro area that has this stuff within an hours drive. The other one is "I dont like southern accents", I tell her she has talked to the neighbors here twice in 10years and we really dont talk to anyone at the store or in our community now. After making a pros and cons list like yours and logically breaking it down, shes now pretty excited to move. Yea some shits going to suck, but alot sucks here, and there are many more pros than cons to packing up and moving.
DirtRoads
Uninformed
Stay away from anything even remotely close to a confederate state. "OMG they have to run AC at night..."
If you think running AC at night is even remotely strange you need to stay west and/or stay north. I could cut the AC off when we all go to bed at night and Jim Jones my entire family.
This is so true. I get scared when our a/c shuts off this time of year. I’m always afraid it won’t start back up
OP it is the perfect time to travel down here and see what you think of our climate. 101 yesterday, humidity around 80%. Come getcha some!
Geez, she sounds like a racist. Show us her butthole
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