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COVID Vaccine!

  • Yes, I trust my government

    Votes: 13 9.4%

  • Hell to the naw

    Votes: 60 43.5%

  • I'll wait as late as possible to see what happens to others muahahahah

    Votes: 51 37.0%

  • Bacon

    Votes: 14 10.1%
  • Total voters
    138
Saloon65 said:
How proud you must be. We're right in the middle of something of an "outbreak" here, two of our lead guys were sitting in my office twenty minutes before they got a phone call that their positive test results came back. Both of them have said they feel like absolute shit, one other guy was out for two weeks and just got back, he was out two weeks and probably 10 days of it was spent in almost hallucinatory high fever, etc.: he's a 35 year old ex-marine who is in really good shape, it looked like he went about a hundred rounds with Mike Tyson in his prime when he came back..

You can fear what you want. If I can avoid getting sick, I'm all for it. Sorry, but I'm just not going to go ahead and dive into a couple of rounds of feeling like death warmed over just so I can tell everybody that I don't believe what "they" tell me. Nothing Pfizer can come up with really compares to what I've done to myself over the last forty years or so..
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Saloon65 said:
How proud you must be. We're right in the middle of something of an "outbreak" here, two of our lead guys were sitting in my office twenty minutes before they got a phone call that their positive test results came back. Both of them have said they feel like absolute shit, one other guy was out for two weeks and just got back, he was out two weeks and probably 10 days of it was spent in almost hallucinatory high fever, etc.: he's a 35 year old ex-marine who is in really good shape, it looked like he went about a hundred rounds with Mike Tyson in his prime when he came back..

You can fear what you want. If I can avoid getting sick, I'm all for it. Sorry, but I'm just not going to go ahead and dive into a couple of rounds of feeling like death warmed over just so I can tell everybody that I don't believe what "they" tell me. Nothing Pfizer can come up with really compares to what I've done to myself over the last forty years or so..
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Freedom. I'm not afraid of you getting me sick either. I'm not arguing for or against anything either. You do you.
 
My Mother InLaws Cousin a lady in her 70's with dementia. no known illness/condition other than dementia.
She got the vaccine then got extremely sick and was dead two days later.
 
Saloon65 said:
Do you really think the only reason for any healthcare measure of any type is strictly to prevent death, with simply making people feel better not being an issue? The makers of tylenol and advil would be really interested to hear that.
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Do you understand what Tylenol and advil do? :homer:
 
YJ4Rox said:
My Mother InLaws Cousin a lady in her 70's with dementia. no known illness/condition other than dementia.
She got the vaccine then got extremely sick and was dead two days later.
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YJ4Rox said:
My Mother InLaws Cousin a lady in her 70's with dementia. no known illness/condition other than dementia.
She got the vaccine then got extremely sick and was dead two days later.
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Well duh!!
Its perfectly acceptable for the elderly and those with underlying issues to die. That’s not the vaccines fault, that’s simply a part of life:rolleyes:

But not covid. Your fucking head could get ripped off in a horrible car accident and covid would be the cause. The hypocrisy and idiocy is unreal.
 
Rockbuggy84 said:
Well duh!!
Its perfectly acceptable for the elderly and those with underlying issues to die. That’s not the vaccines fault, that’s simply a part of life:rolleyes:
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except we shut down an economy for the same reason. Vast majority of deaths were people over 70 with underlying issues.

Okay for a vaccine to kill them, though, I guess.
 
rockota said:
except we shut down an economy for the same reason. Vast majority of deaths were people over 70 with underlying issues.

Okay for a vaccine to kill them, though, I guess.
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But homeboy told me a page or so back that the vaccine was to help us not miss work:laughing:

And that it makes you feel good. You know, like Tylenol :lmao:
 
Rockbuggy84 said:
You truly don’t see the idiocy behind every post you make. That’s fuckin embarrassing:lmao:

I do like the sidestepping and irrelevant rants to change the subject though.:laughing:


Edit; If the side effects to taking Tylenol or Advil were comparable to the covid vaccine, they would’ve been belly up years ago:lmao:

”side effects of Tylenol may include severe headaches, body pain, stiffness and many others. Tylenol will also not prevent you from getting headaches, body pain and stiffness. Use as directed”:lmao::lmao:
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That's actually funny. :laughing:
 
im not saying the vaccine is good or bad. Just stating the fact that a lady I personally know, she came to all of the family holiday dinners, passed away quickly after receiving it. .
 
Norway has vaccinated 48k people. 33 people 75 or older died soon after getting the vaccine. Authorities are saying there is no correlation. Norway has the population of a city the size of Atlanta but the geographical size of the US Eastern seaboard. I think that I read that 44 people per day there die in nursing homes on average. Basically, if you put 48k over 5 mil and you put (48k-33) over 5 mil then the problem doesn't look bad. It's only bad if you are the one that dies.
 
The fact of the matter is that most of us won't get the Rona, or will be asymptomatic, or only have mild symptoms. The other fact of the matte is that some will die from it, some will seriously get their ass kicked by it, and some will have long lasting side effects.

The other fact is that China owns this one, they could have contained it or at least slowed it's spread instead of acting like nothing was wrong. Those fuckers are a scourge.
 
Roc Doc said:
The fact of the matter is that most of us won't get the Rona, or will be asymptomatic, or only have mild symptoms. The other fact of the matte is that some will die from it, some will seriously get their ass kicked by it, and some will have long lasting side effects.

The other fact is that China owns this one, they could have contained it or at least slowed it's spread instead of acting like nothing was wrong. Those fuckers are a scourge.
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Agree with everything you say. Except this


Roc Doc said:
The fact of the matter is that most of us won't get the Rona
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My opinion is the opposite. Most of us will.


I'm betting I personally am in the long lasting side effects group. I have a robust immune system but, over the last 7~8 yrs my viral load is high. IMM SYS is being taxed because of just plain ol aging.
 
Roc Doc said:
The fact of the matter is that most of us won't get the Rona, or will be asymptomatic, or only have mild symptoms. The other fact of the matte is that some will die from it, some will seriously get their ass kicked by it, and some will have long lasting side effects.

The other fact is that China owns this one, they could have contained it or at least slowed it's spread instead of acting like nothing was wrong. Those fuckers are a scourge.
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Thank you. I want to plaster up post boards like Little league sign ups that say "Buy China - Burn America" with a hammer Sickle and black bat graphic all over Home depot, Costco and Walmart parking lot traffic islands. yeah, Bass Pro, Cabelas and Sportsman's Warehosue also.
 
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What I've heard from the terrified of the beer flu crowd.

People who refuse the mask, won't stay at home, won't follow orders and are anti vaxxers. If they get sick then they should be denied all medical care and suffer the consequences of their decision.

Fair enough then.

People who are afraid of the beer flu and wear masks and follow orders all the while acting holier than thou while also CHOOSING to stay at home and jump at the chance to get the vax should receive nothing in the form of any assistance financially. NOTHING not a fucking cent, no rent freeze, no eviction freeze, no debt deferment or forgiveness no fucking stimulus. I hope you got money under the mattress or some shit to sell to a non sheep like me because your broke ass is gonna be homeless PDQ and all due to your CHOICE, suffer the consequences of your decision.

If that was the case and it should fucking well be, well then I bet we would see a whole different attitude now wouldn't we.

There was never a reason to shut down anything let those who choose to get on with life do so and let those who choose otherwise do so as well.
 
Lawless said:
What I've heard from the terrified of the beer flu crowd.

People who refuse the mask, won't stay at home, won't follow orders and are anti vaxxers. If they get sick then they should be denied all medical care and suffer the consequences of their decision.

Fair enough then.

People who are afraid of the beer flu and wear masks and follow orders all the while acting holier than thou while also CHOOSING to stay at home and jump at the chance to get the vax should receive nothing in the form of any assistance financially. NOTHING not a fucking cent, no rent freeze, no eviction freeze, no debt deferment or forgiveness no fucking stimulus. I hope you got money under the mattress or some shit to sell to a non sheep like me because your broke ass is gonna be homeless PDQ and all due to your CHOICE, suffer the consequences of your decision.

If that was the case and it should fucking well be, well then I bet we would see a whole different attitude now wouldn't we.

There was never a reason to shut down anything let those who choose to get on with life do so and let those who choose otherwise do so as well.
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The majority of the pro mask group are fucking leaches that want free money while not having to work. I deal with countless people every single day and this has become quite obvious.

Behind closed doors, or when they’re around people they trust, the mask bullshit completely disappears. But When they’re in the public eye or on social media, they are non stop virtue signaling and “calling out” anti mask folks.

If there was no money involved, rent freezes, foreclosure freezes, etc, none of these scumbags would give a fuck about covid. Just like the hospitals that are profiting from calling everything covid.
 
Lawless said:
What I've heard from the terrified of the beer flu crowd.

People who refuse the mask, won't stay at home, won't follow orders and are anti vaxxers. If they get sick then they should be denied all medical care and suffer the consequences of their decision.

Fair enough then.

People who are afraid of the beer flu and wear masks and follow orders all the while acting holier than thou while also CHOOSING to stay at home and jump at the chance to get the vax should receive nothing in the form of any assistance financially. NOTHING not a fucking cent, no rent freeze, no eviction freeze, no debt deferment or forgiveness no fucking stimulus. I hope you got money under the mattress or some shit to sell to a non sheep like me because your broke ass is gonna be homeless PDQ and all due to your CHOICE, suffer the consequences of your decision.

If that was the case and it should fucking well be, well then I bet we would see a whole different attitude now wouldn't we.

There was never a reason to shut down anything let those who choose to get on with life do so and let those who choose otherwise do so as well.
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what about people that don’t believe any of that shit?
 
This is an interesting article considering that there are some complications with the vaccine that aren't being reported by MSM.

https://2020news.de/en/dr-wodarg-an...2qs95Vb8mKZ4DcgQDaAJFdd19D2Gh9hIObld8dWsg2w1k

Dr. Wodarg and Dr. Yeadon request a stop of all corona vaccination studies and call for co-signing the petition


December 1, 2020
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On December 1, 2020, the ex-Pfizer head of respiratory research Dr. Michael Yeadon and the lung specialist and former head of the public health department Dr. Wolfgang Wodarg filed an application with the EMA, the European Medicine Agency responsible for EU-wide drug approval, for the immediate suspension of all SARS CoV 2 vaccine studies, in particular the BioNtech/Pfizer study on BNT162b (EudraCT number 2020-002641-42).

Dr. Wodarg and Dr. Yeadon demand that the studies – for the protection of the life and health of the volunteers – should not be continued until a study design is available that is suitable to address the significant safety concerns expressed by an increasing number of renowned scientists against the vaccine and the study design.

On the one hand, the petitioners demand that, due to the known lack of accuracy of the PCR test in a serious study, a so-called Sanger sequencing must be used. This is the only way to make reliable statements on the effectiveness of a vaccine against Covid-19. On the basis of the many different PCR tests of highly varying quality, neither the risk of disease nor a possible vaccine benefit can be determined with the necessary certainty, which is why testing the vaccine on humans is unethical per se.

Furthermore, they demand that it must be excluded, e.g. by means of animal experiments, that risks already known from previous studies, which partly originate from the nature of the corona viruses, can be realized. The concerns are directed in particular to the following points:
  • The formation of so-called “non-neutralizing antibodies” can lead to an exaggerated immune reaction, especially when the test person is confronted with the real, “wild” virus after vaccination. This so-called antibody-dependent amplification, ADE, has long been known from experiments with corona vaccines in cats, for example. In the course of these studies all cats that initially tolerated the vaccination well died after catching the wild virus.
  • The vaccinations are expected to produce antibodies against spike proteins of SARS-CoV-2. However, spike proteins also contain syncytin-homologous proteins, which are essential for the formation of the placenta in mammals such as humans. It must be absolutely ruled out that a vaccine against SARS-CoV-2 could trigger an immune reaction against syncytin-1, as otherwise infertility of indefinite duration could result in vaccinated women.
  • The mRNA vaccines from BioNTech/Pfizer contain polyethylene glycol (PEG). 70% of people develop antibodies against this substance – this means that many people can develop allergic, potentially fatal reactions to the vaccination.
  • The much too short duration of the study does not allow a realistic estimation of the late effects. As in the narcolepsy cases after the swine flu vaccination, millions of healthy people would be exposed to an unacceptable risk if an emergency approval were to be granted and the possibility of observing the late effects of the vaccination were to follow. Nevertheless, BioNTech/Pfizer apparently submitted an application for emergency approval on December 1, 2020.
CALL FOR HELP: Dr. Wodarg and Dr. Yeadon ask as many EU citizens as possible to co-sign their petition by sending the e-mail prepared here to the EMA.

Nachtrag: Wegen teilweiser Überlastung der Server hier der Inhalt der E-Mail und die Kontaktadressen zum späteren Selbst-Versenden:

An: [email protected]; [email protected]

Betreff: Co-signing the petition of Dr. Wodarg, Germany, and Dr. Yeadon, UK (submitted on 1-Dec-2020)

Dear Sir or Madam, I am hereby co-signing the petition of Dr. Wodarg and Dr. Yeadon to support their urgent request to stay the Phase III clinical trial(s) of BNT162b (EudraCT Number 2020-002641-42) and other clinical trials. The full text of the petition of Dr. Wodarg and Dr. Yeadon can be found here: https://2020news.de/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/Wodarg_Yeadon_EMA_Petition_Pfizer_Trial_FINAL_01DE C2020_EN_unsigned_with_Exhibits.pdf I hereby respectfully request that EMA act on the petition of Dr. Wodarg and Dr. Yeadon immediately. Regards
 
Rob50lx said:
This is an interesting article considering that there are some complications with the vaccine that aren't being reported by MSM.

https://2020news.de/en/dr-wodarg-an...2qs95Vb8mKZ4DcgQDaAJFdd19D2Gh9hIObld8dWsg2w1k

Dr. Wodarg and Dr. Yeadon request a stop of all corona vaccination studies and call for co-signing the petition


December 1, 2020
457771

Email

Telegram

WhatsApp

Facebook

Twitter

On December 1, 2020, the ex-Pfizer head of respiratory research Dr. Michael Yeadon and the lung specialist and former head of the public health department Dr. Wolfgang Wodarg filed an application with the EMA, the European Medicine Agency responsible for EU-wide drug approval, for the immediate suspension of all SARS CoV 2 vaccine studies, in particular the BioNtech/Pfizer study on BNT162b (EudraCT number 2020-002641-42).

Dr. Wodarg and Dr. Yeadon demand that the studies – for the protection of the life and health of the volunteers – should not be continued until a study design is available that is suitable to address the significant safety concerns expressed by an increasing number of renowned scientists against the vaccine and the study design.

On the one hand, the petitioners demand that, due to the known lack of accuracy of the PCR test in a serious study, a so-called Sanger sequencing must be used. This is the only way to make reliable statements on the effectiveness of a vaccine against Covid-19. On the basis of the many different PCR tests of highly varying quality, neither the risk of disease nor a possible vaccine benefit can be determined with the necessary certainty, which is why testing the vaccine on humans is unethical per se.

Furthermore, they demand that it must be excluded, e.g. by means of animal experiments, that risks already known from previous studies, which partly originate from the nature of the corona viruses, can be realized. The concerns are directed in particular to the following points:
  • The formation of so-called “non-neutralizing antibodies” can lead to an exaggerated immune reaction, especially when the test person is confronted with the real, “wild” virus after vaccination. This so-called antibody-dependent amplification, ADE, has long been known from experiments with corona vaccines in cats, for example. In the course of these studies all cats that initially tolerated the vaccination well died after catching the wild virus.
  • The vaccinations are expected to produce antibodies against spike proteins of SARS-CoV-2. However, spike proteins also contain syncytin-homologous proteins, which are essential for the formation of the placenta in mammals such as humans. It must be absolutely ruled out that a vaccine against SARS-CoV-2 could trigger an immune reaction against syncytin-1, as otherwise infertility of indefinite duration could result in vaccinated women.
  • The mRNA vaccines from BioNTech/Pfizer contain polyethylene glycol (PEG). 70% of people develop antibodies against this substance – this means that many people can develop allergic, potentially fatal reactions to the vaccination.
  • The much too short duration of the study does not allow a realistic estimation of the late effects. As in the narcolepsy cases after the swine flu vaccination, millions of healthy people would be exposed to an unacceptable risk if an emergency approval were to be granted and the possibility of observing the late effects of the vaccination were to follow. Nevertheless, BioNTech/Pfizer apparently submitted an application for emergency approval on December 1, 2020.
CALL FOR HELP: Dr. Wodarg and Dr. Yeadon ask as many EU citizens as possible to co-sign their petition by sending the e-mail prepared here to the EMA.

Nachtrag: Wegen teilweiser Überlastung der Server hier der Inhalt der E-Mail und die Kontaktadressen zum späteren Selbst-Versenden:

An: [email protected]; [email protected]

Betreff: Co-signing the petition of Dr. Wodarg, Germany, and Dr. Yeadon, UK (submitted on 1-Dec-2020)

Dear Sir or Madam, I am hereby co-signing the petition of Dr. Wodarg and Dr. Yeadon to support their urgent request to stay the Phase III clinical trial(s) of BNT162b (EudraCT Number 2020-002641-42) and other clinical trials. The full text of the petition of Dr. Wodarg and Dr. Yeadon can be found here: https://2020news.de/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/Wodarg_Yeadon_EMA_Petition_Pfizer_Trial_FINAL_01DE C2020_EN_unsigned_with_Exhibits.pdf I hereby respectfully request that EMA act on the petition of Dr. Wodarg and Dr. Yeadon immediately. Regards
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hmmmm
 
Still waiting on "White Supremecy" caused the Covids news articles. Been seeing them everywhere "People wanting to re-open schools is white supremecy" Biden made sure to work that into his speech as well. We are all fucked
 
That petition was pretty widely reported back in the first week of December. Yeadon hasn't worked for Pfizer in a decade, when they shut down his department in 2010... Do with it what you will, but he's not the Pfizer insider whistleblower that he's being made out to be all over facebook.. Dr. Wolfgang Wodarg is a radical socialist that seems to be occupied with just hammering pharmaceutical companies on general principles of late.. He got kicked to the curb over this stuff earlier last year by the "anti-corruption" foundation he was on the board of. Of course you can just say that was in retaliation for not going along with the conspiracy, but who knows? Looks like he's been on the outs with the business world in general for quite some time..

Hell, they might be right as they can be, but they could also just be terminal whiners. I guess we all know what side you guys will fall on there, so be it.
 
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I just needed one of these many threads :flipoff2:

Splib

How's Japan doing with their excellent isolation and high masking and other lauded covid policies on the island nation that hates china already?

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