Clb
another toyota from P.R.K
well, cleaning barrels and cleaning the rest of the worky-bits is two easily separated concepts
well, cleaning barrels and cleaning the rest of the worky-bits is two easily separated concepts
Here is another recap: You can shoot 600 rounds out of your gun without cleaning and become an expert and pontificate how anyone who cleans before 600 rounds is a complete idiot. It is ok to suck a guys dick for posting pics of shitty groups at 200 yards out of a 12K setup. Aison knows a guy...that can not only see a target at 770yds, not 700yds, not 800yds, but 770 yds and hit it with a red dot. Must be an apartment building or barn but he knows a guy.Here's a recap of what we know:
s&w plastic semi pistols are garbage and barely better than a Hi-Point
You can be a pro shooter and trainer for 21 years and still give yourself a hernia telling people how smart you are on the internet.
Every rifle I own has a ruined barrel.
@Rocdoc is so inept, he doesn't have the good sense to upgrade to a badger 2013 from a 2008. No wonder he only cleans every 250 rounds.
Let me recap for Texas backyard shooter:
Shooting any rifle 600 times between cleaning is...just fucking stupid and makes accurate shots impossible. Find me one person in the military or civilian world to back you up on that..and please make it a distance rifle. Once again, yer an idiot so stay out of the conversation until you can see your riflings again.
300 Sniper or whatever your name is: I know a guy that sucks cock but.....That don't make me an expert at anything.
Roc Doc: Sorry but for 12K in a weapons platform, those groups aren't impressive at 200 yards. Spend your money how you want to. I ain't hating.
Aisin knows a guy hitting bullseyes at 770 with a motherfucking red dot.(gotta question how he even see's the target at that range through a fucking red dot but hey, it ain't my story), you need to pick up your game.
To the whiny OP: I just tried to tell you to oil your shitty assed gun and break it in. Looks like you did that on your own in between complaining about me.
And to whoever said they slobber their gun down with red tack....excellent idea. That won't pick up any dirt, burnt powder, lead, copper or your boogers at all.
I will let you experts trip over your own dicks anytime you want. I know a guy.........
Here is another recap: You can shoot 600 rounds out of your gun without cleaning and become an expert and pontificate how anyone who cleans before 600 rounds is a complete idiot. It is ok to suck a guys dick for posting pics of shitty groups at 200 yards out of a 12K setup. Aison knows a guy...that can not only see a target at 770yds, not 700yds, not 800yds, but 770 yds and hit it with a red dot. Must be an apartment building or barn but he knows a guy.
The guy that knows a guy...hasn't posted up shit about his business, custom work that he sells, track record or jack shit. But hey, he knows a guy.
Meanwhile, I know a guy... actually a bunch of guys, that routinely send more rounds down range in a year than anyone in this thread will send in a life time, aside from Texas backyard shooter because he can afford all those rounds and never clean his shit. I also know some guys whose rifles must work, the first time and all the time to stay alive and keep others alive but we are all apparently complete morons compared to the guy that knows a guy......and the guy that spends 12k on a gun to shoot 200yds that I am pretty sure I could beat with a .22 with a 4x scope. Sorry pard but 200 yds ain't shit. Maybe I will make a video of my .22 or straight off the shelf at Dicks 17 HMR tightening up your groups at 200 yds. Pretty sure the 17 only has a sub 200 dollar 3x9. lol. Even so, I have never claimed to be an expert at anything aside from being a humble servant collecting your tax payer dollars.
I don't post guns, safe pictures or list my firearms because I know a guy....and he is a motherfucker. So......suck it. lol
Do I have to go back to your post that states 600 rounds which you reduced to 500 rounds or did you edit/delete them homie? Why should I go away for offering another perspective that your dumb ass immediately spit out you 400-600 round rule or until you can't hit the broad side of a barn. I find you as equally ridiculous and full of shit. Why don't you shut up or go away? You are the one full of shit and jumped on my ass about breaking in a rifle you fucking retard. Begone now. Don't post agin, disconnect your keyboard. Bye bye now.No one said "600 rounds"..that's the dumb shit you are focusing on. I clean when my groups start opening up.
You ask for "one guy" in the civilian or military world? Ok, how about Jacob Bynum of Rifles Only. Trains SWAT, LEO, military units etc etc and has for 20-25 years or more. His advice is "clean your barrel when the rifle needs to be cleaned, when groups start opening up and accuracy falls off". It has worked for me these last several years since getting to train with him.
Go the fuck away already. Your bullshit is tired, repetitive, and megalomaniacal. Please, go back to cleaning your guns and leave this thread alone.
I don't understand your reference to Hurley and no I am not. Question is, were you or were you not under the influence when you posted that we shouldn't clean our guns until 500-600 rounds or until accuracy departed?I thought you were going to take your bullshit statements and kick rocks by the way?Are you drunk Mr. Hurley?
Who exactly was this barrel maker you speak of genius? Was this just word of mouth that made it to your ears or is it in print?The original barrel break-in myth came from a barrel maker who got tired of people asking him what they should do with their new barrel, so he came up with the ridiculous shoot, clean, shoot, clean, shoot, clean, in snake-oil-ish increments and also he figured while people were improperly and obsessively over cleaning their barrels then he would get to sell more of them as they wore them out pre-maturely.
Its easier to fool someone than to convince them that they have been fooled.
I said I've shot between cleaning without loss of accuracy between 400-600 rounds in a 308. I haven't edited shit.I don't understand your reference to Hurley and no I am not. Question is, were you or were you not under the influence when you posted that we shouldn't clean our guns until 500-600 rounds or until accuracy departed?I thought you were going to take your bullshit statements and kick rocks but the way?
Whoops, here is your first claim of 600.Look bud, I understand that your world has been destroyed, as you have sunk your entire sanity and self-worth into barrel break-in, but there is no need to lash out. You will get past this and i have confidence you can learn to be a better marksman and pull triggers for a while without solvent stained fingers. anyway....
Most of us (rifle owners/shooters) clean their barrels when accuracy degrades. That interval all depends on the load being shot, caliber, overall barrel life for that caliber, etc. Shoot it until accuracy falls off from your standards (for something like 308, its usually 400-600 rounds) clean the barrel out thoroughly, shoot a few fouling shots and get back out their enjoying the rifle and the sport.
Thanks, and God Bless.
And here is number 2 where you ratcheted that number back to 500. lolalso, for the record, i already mentioned that cleaning intervals will vary depending on several factors. i shoot 308 and 260 Rem mostly, and that 400-500 interval is where i see groups opening up on my rifles and therefore thats when cleaning happens.
you'll need to ask Roc Doc, who shoots the Gay Tiger, and 300sniper when their seeing their accuracy loss in precision bolt action.
just to recap, barrel break-in is a myth.
clean your rifle barrel when that gun tells you its time.
Have a good evening, sir.
What are you even typing? Do you even know? What were your direct questions? I will answer them. You haven't asked shit aside if I was drinking and I answered you. Well, I made the break in comment a week ago. Should I no longer be held to that statement. Did your 600 rounds or until accuracy departure change in the last week you tool shed? I breath farely well through my nose how you would seem to know different is puzzling. Oh, apologies, that is an old PBB-ism that means you win. Sorry but you are still a fucking idiot that spouts off stupid information that is erroneous at best. Probably a YouTube gun expert. lolI said I've shot between cleaning without loss of accuracy between 400-600 rounds in a 308. I haven't edited shit.
I'm not the one responding to week old comments, you mouth breathing loser. You can't even answer questions asked of you or respond when your direct questions are answered.
I hope you get the help you are desperately crying out for.
Who exactly was this barrel maker you speak of genius? Was this just word of mouth that made it to your ears or is it in print?
But yet you still will go the fuck off and belittle someone because they adhere to barrel break in and not sure who your hero was that said it? You are a smart, yet bold individual. And to be perfectly honest, I think he should have stuck to putting his name on high dollar stocks for retards that think it will make them shoot better because I don't see a lot of barrels stamped with McMillan winning any awards.The barrel maker who argued against barrel break-in was Gale McMillan. I'm not certain if he's the one who also made up the fabled break in procedures.
I'm at 525 since last cleaning through a 1-8 twist Bartlein barrel on a SAC built 308, without cleaning it. I haven't shot it at distance longer than 400 in about a year. Will I make 600? I hope so. Maybe 700 if I only use FGMM?And here is number 2 where you ratcheted that number back to 500. lol
Dunno man but the sights on that AK you just bought go all the way to 1000 arshins. Should you not be striving to be as capable as a two bit commie conscript?Tell me the truth, are you the one that told Aisin you shot a target at 770yds with a fucking red dot?
What are you babbling about? Everyone knows those flip ups are for shooting airplanes down. Just ask Texas shit talker. His rifle only has 1500 rounds through it but he claims he only cleans it after 600. If he isn't just talking out of his ass, I would love for him to send me that barrel so I could bore scope before and after cleaning and post up pics. Somehow, I don't think he would do it or would scrub the living shit out of his boom stick, shoot a round or two and then ship it off in attempt to prove his new scientific method.Dunno man but the sights on that AK you just bought go all the way to 1000 arshins. Should you not be striving to be as capable as a two bit commie conscript?
Must be a west coast thing because I have never heard of it. But then again, can you guys even own guns anymore or is this whole concept just in theory?I only clean my barrels when accuracy falls off too so I spendore time cleaning than missing targets.
That's why I bought an AR-10 instead of a single shot .308 🤣
Never heard of what, being a bad shot so I use a weapon that can send multiple chances at hitting near what I'm shooting at. 😂Must be a west coast thing because I have never heard of it. But then again, can you guys even own guns anymore or is this whole concept just in theory?
Yeah, still waiting for your link where I was bragging about Weatherby actions.Guys, juts put this twatwaffle on ignore. He's not worth conversing with. He already knows everything even though it is painfully obvious to the rest of us that he's an idiot.
Well, OP ran his gun without malfunctioning.Is it over yet?
Well, OP ran his gun without malfunctioning.
Especially a S&W auto...It's weird that such a contraption as a handheld explosion propelled projectile device would need to be used a bit so everything laps together and runs smoothly.
Especially a S&W auto...