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[486] said:
Don't worry I already told him all he needs is a .257 roberts
or maybe a .25-'06
Or a .270
.243 is pretty interesting, too
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I have a 1:7 twist 25-06 just for the high bc stuff from blackjack and berger. It's a freaking laser but I'm struggling finding enough h1000 to shoot it.

I use a 243AI for my match rifle. 112s over h1000 and it's a hell of a performer out of a 26" barrel for PRS.

270 sucks for everything the 6gt was designed for. No good bullets and too little performance to justify running the long action.

6gt is all about efficient use of case capacity with high bc bullets in a short action. I have shot lots of 6mm br and brx, but I'll probably have a dasher or gt soon enough for a little more reliable feeding than the 243ai.
 
Im down to about 7lbs of h1000. Goona sting , when i break down and buy a jug at todays prices.

How do you like the h1000 outta the 243? Im just about out of rl22. Been looking into moving over to h1000.
 
Steve300xcw said:
Im down to about 7lbs of h1000. Goona sting , when i break down and buy a jug at todays prices.

How do you like the h1000 outta the 243? Im just about out of rl22. Been looking into moving over to h1000.
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FWIT, im using RL-16. The temp swings here, make some powders a problem. No experience w H1000
Chevy_man said:
I have a 1:7 twist 25-06 just for the high bc stuff from blackjack and berger. It's a freaking laser but I'm struggling finding enough h1000 to shoot it.

I use a 243AI for my match rifle. 112s over h1000 and it's a hell of a performer out of a 26" barrel for PRS.

270 sucks for everything the 6gt was designed for. No good bullets and too little performance to justify running the long action.

6gt is all about efficient use of case capacity with high bc bullets in a short action. I have shot lots of 6mm br and brx, but I'll probably have a dasher or gt soon enough for a little more reliable feeding than the 243ai.
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6GT is supposed to offer better barrel life over Dasher
 
Chevy_man said:
It is a thing. It's pretty common for them to speed up over the first 100-150 rounds. Then they'll stay consistent until they're worn out.
I pull my match guns barrels when they show velocity slowing back down, as they may be dead in another 200 or 800 rounds, but I'm not finding out the very limited trying to engage a target at 1400 yards.
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The barrels will speed up but it's regardless of the "procedure" used as "break in" vs just shooting it.
 
Texas97 said:
The barrels will speed up but it's regardless of the "procedure" used as "break in" vs just shooting it.
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Far from looking to get involved in the shit show but I'd suspect doing 5 30 round mag dumps as fast as possible through my AR-10 will leave it as accurate long term as firing a handful of rounds and letting it cool to season it in slowly. 🤷
 
DWT said:
Far from looking to get involved in the shit show but I'd suspect doing 5 30 round mag dumps as fast as possible through my AR-10 will leave it as accurate long term as firing a handful of rounds and letting it cool to season it in slowly. 🤷
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am i suggesting intentionally abusing and heat soaking your barrel? no, i am not. there's a difference between normal strings of fire and doing what you are suggesting so you can try and melt the gas tube. and your issue is most likely throat erosion vs anything in the actual rifling. this discussion isnt really about semi-autos anyway. but most of the large frame guns you're not going to see the tiny small groups that precision bolt actions can accomplish.

just shoot your gun, like you normally would after your "barrel break-in procedure".

you dont want to get involved in this but yet throw a strawman argument out there? come on. shit stirrer :stirthepot:

i was reading some stuff yesterday on another site with a guy asking about his bore scope pictures. rifle shot good, there looked like there could be tooling marks in the barrel rifling or something. rifle had several hundred rounds through it and shot tight groups, but the guy was concerned about the bore scope pics. someone said "it shoots good, whats the problem? a bore scope is a solution looking for a problem. stop worrying about it."

my point being is i think some of these things people do with their guns are more to satisfy their OCD and strict adherence to a process rather than for any practical benefit. your mileage may vary. void where prohibited. etc etc etc.
 
Texas97 said:
am i suggesting intentionally abusing and heat soaking your barrel? no, i am not. there's a difference between normal strings of fire and doing what you are suggesting so you can try and melt the gas tube. and your issue is most likely throat erosion vs anything in the actual rifling. this discussion isnt really about semi-autos anyway. but most of the large frame guns you're not going to see the tiny small groups that precision bolt actions can accomplish.

just shoot your gun, like you normally would after your "barrel break-in procedure".

you dont want to get involved in this but yet throw a strawman argument out there? come on. shit stirrer :stirthepot:

i was reading some stuff yesterday on another site with a guy asking about his bore scope pictures. rifle shot good, there looked like there could be tooling marks in the barrel rifling or something. rifle had several hundred rounds through it and shot tight groups, but the guy was concerned about the bore scope pics. someone said "it shoots good, whats the problem? a bore scope is a solution looking for a problem. stop worrying about it."

my point being is i think some of these things people do with their guns are more to satisfy their OCD and strict adherence to a process rather than for any practical benefit. your mileage may vary. void where prohibited. etc etc etc.
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Not trying to stir the pot as much as saying I see merit in a bit of break in solely for heat treatment purposes. I've never bought a new rifle to think about such things nutil now. I come from a family of OG gun brokers that predates FFL laws so I've always had cool old shit to shoot but I'm picking up my AR-10 Tuesday so I'll do a bit of seasoning on it to keep from fucking it up. Doubt I'll clean it though. :flipoff2:

I totally agree on most people letting their OCD run rampant about these things. My RC hobby is full of the same shit. People getting loser focused on things that just don't matter but it makes them feel better.
 
The "heat treatment" or "seasoning" you talk about isn't really a thing. Barrels are heat treated at the factory. Anything you do out in the field shooting through it can only adversely affect the barrel. The hotter a barrel gets the faster it wears.
We all know why it's a bad idea to dump 5 mags through a rifle or pistol as fast as you can. That's why Normal shooters don't do that.
Just shoot your rifle as normal and don't worry too much about it. Very few people out there are shooting out barrels on anything close to a regular basis.
 
aron82 said:
The "heat treatment" or "seasoning" you talk about isn't really a thing. Barrels are heat treated at the factory. Anything you do out in the field shooting through it can only adversely affect the barrel. The hotter a barrel gets the faster it wears.
We all know why it's a bad idea to dump 5 mags through a rifle or pistol as fast as you can. That's why Normal shooters don't do that.
Just shoot your rifle as normal and don't worry too much about it. Very few people out there are shooting out barrels on anything close to a regular basis.
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I realize there already heat treated when new, there is a little voice in the back of my head that says the first mag or 5 should be shot a small batch at a time so everything can lap itself together without worry of damage. I know the gun will either shoot or it won't but I've never dealt with something with this capacity that I wasn't going to mag dump randomly like the $99 SKSs from 20 years ago that we basically destroyed any hopes of accuracy immediately upon purchase by getting them super hot. :homer:
 
aron82 said:
The "heat treatment" or "seasoning" you talk about isn't really a thing. Barrels are heat treated at the factory. Anything you do out in the field shooting through it can only adversely affect the barrel. The hotter a barrel gets the faster it wears.
We all know why it's a bad idea to dump 5 mags through a rifle or pistol as fast as you can. That's why Normal shooters don't do that.
Just shoot your rifle as normal and don't worry too much about it. Very few people out there are shooting out barrels on anything close to a regular basis.
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Cleaning your guns just isn't a thing either. The more fucked up you get 'em, the better they run and they are way more accurate. Texas Bukkake sells rusty drill shavings that he jizzed on himself, to jam down your barrel to squeeze out every bit of accuracy for those that can't wait for the 600 round count. And remember kids, just jam that barrel in the dirt if you can't afford Texas Bukkakes rusty jizzed on drill shavings.
 
And don't worry, if you can't afford to shoot or don't have the time, Aisin will be there to revel you in stories about 770yd shots utilizing a toilet paper roll for an optic and how he spent 700 dollars on a 200 dollar 870 shotgun so it has zero recoil. That's right folks, absolutely zero recoil, done especially for the fella's that are overwhelmed by 12 gauge recoil. Ask hime nice and he will tell you about the guy who shot a bullet that traveled around the circumference of the earth and actually hit the shooter in the back...with open sights.. Of course you have to have a Dragonball Z membership to view said video.
 
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:lmao:
Ohfukkmerunnin this shit is great.
I.B.B. In and off itself at it finest!:flipoff2:
 
aron82 said:
The "heat treatment" or "seasoning" you talk about isn't really a thing. Barrels are heat treated at the factory. Anything you do out in the field shooting through it can only adversely affect the barrel. The hotter a barrel gets the faster it wears.
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uh, barrels ain't generally hardened, just stress relieved

maek barrule hot enuf nonmagnetic
soak in hot for long enough hot soak through
let baerulle cool down slow
barle is now normalized and won't shift zero as it heats up as much

you aren't going to hurt anything getting them hot again unless you manage to get the fucker nonmagnetic again and then quench it
maybe some premature throat erosion but... If you're the type to be turning dirt like that you'll never notice
 
Different steels have different properties.
If you want a bullet hose fn machine guns have more chrome plating in the barrel, but accuracy suffers.
Stainless has shorter bbl life, but better accuracy.
I am usually happy with cold hammer forged barrels for accuracy and longevity, but I don't shoot any one rifle that much to wear out barrels.
There are also outliers and some rifles just shoot good or bad.
 
Broncokyle88 said:
Hey dumb fuck, I am here to hurl insults and suck dick.
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Who are you? Aisin is a custom gun builder? Why did he have someone else port his shitgun? Why doesn't he post his business name so we can examine his products instead of sending you on here to hurl insults in his name?
 
Blow my gawd, you're coming across as the most ignorant fuck on the planet :homer:

You should just stop posting until you sober up or calm down enough to read. Seriously.
 
ExWrench said:
Blow my gawd, you're coming across as the most ignorant fuck on the planet :homer:

You should just stop posting until you sober up or calm down enough to read. Seriously.
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Broncokyle88 said:
Wow, you must be the most clever 14 year old to ever stumble onto the internet. Did you know you can look at boobs on here too?
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You two dickbeaters are the ones who tripped in here and started talking shit. Who is this custom gun maker? You fucking responded to a post by Aisin. Is this guy a secret on IBB that he just claims to be a custom gun maker, who is highly respected in his field? Are you not allowed to speak of him?
 
DICKWEED said:
You two dickbeaters are the ones who tripped in here and started talking shit. Who is this custom gun maker? You fucking responded to a post by Aisin. Is this guy a secret on IBB that he just claims to be a custom gun maker, who is highly respected in his field? Are you not allowed to speak of him?
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I wish you could find something to suppress your incessant urge to post. Seriously, how many subjects are you an expert on shit-dick?
 
(but not really, I welcome shit talking assholes venting their impotent rage online)
 
DICKWEED said:
You two dickbeaters are the ones who tripped in here and started talking shit. Who is this custom gun maker? You fucking responded to a post by Aisin. Is this guy a secret on IBB that he just claims to be a custom gun maker, who is highly respected in his field? Are you not allowed to speak of him?
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300 sniper is the gun builder. And not to really get involved in this dick beating contest of yours but holy fuck man you need an enema or some shit to wash a bit of that hate out. Report to 486 he will set you up. Even if your points were good which I highly doubt nobody is listening to someone who makes them like a drunken asshole who probably beats his wife or some shit.
 
[486] said:
I wish you could find something to suppress your incessant urge to post. Seriously, how many subjects are you an expert on shit-dick?
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I'm guessing he has this angry urge to post because he can't get anything on his dick. Has to work for that and he hasn't broken it in properly....:lmao::lmao:
 
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