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NOTHINGWILLCHANGELANCE said:
the system wont allow it.
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ah, but the system will allow you something near it and certainly near enough to accumulate vast sums, even if they may be limited sums in many ways.

an interesting thing about capitalism, is that it actually allows for socialism and even communism to exist in practice. there is no reason why you cannot accumulate as much as you can, as quickly as you can, and then decide you do not support private property and redistribute your capital either as you see fit or as a gift to the general existing state controlled systems.

Best of both worlds :flipoff2:
 
Provience said:
ah, but the system will allow you something near it and certainly near enough to accumulate vast sums, even if they may be limited sums in many ways.

an interesting thing about capitalism, is that it actually allows for socialism and even communism to exist in practice. there is no reason why you cannot accumulate as much as you can, as quickly as you can, and then decide you do not support private property and redistribute your capital either as you see fit or as a gift to the general existing state controlled systems.

Best of both worlds :flipoff2:
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near it? all the down sides with the possibility. sounds like a shit deal.
 
NOTHINGWILLCHANGELANCE said:
near it? all the down sides with the possibility. sounds like a shit deal.
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far from all the downside and certainly not all the possibilities.

shit deal sounds like a personal statement. does that mean you are the one who is not a capitalist, even an "american capitalist" ? :rasta:

if not, what economic model do you support and engage in and desire to be a part of?

if not an american possibility, why are you still torturing yourself by not relocating to a place where your desire can become true? the world is a big place
 
Provience said:
far from all the downside and certainly not all the possibilities.

shit deal sounds like a personal statement. does that mean you are the one who is not a capitalist, even an "american capitalist" ? :rasta:

if not, what economic model do you support and engage in and desire to be a part of?

if not an american possibility, why are you still torturing yourself by not relocating to a place where your desire can become true? the world is a big place
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I can see the flaws in our own. we can do better. commie aint the answer. nor is socialism. but we can tweak ours.
 
NOTHINGWILLCHANGELANCE said:
lol what makes you think im not gaming the system already?
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because you stated you think it is a shit deal (despite learning recently of your deep ignorance) and that you admit to wasting energy over concern with outcome inequality. :flipoff2:

you clearly aren't gaming the system to your full potential and you seem clear that your lack of result equity is a great concern. game harder, bitch less, have more outcome equity :flipoff2:
 
NOTHINGWILLCHANGELANCE said:
I can see the flaws in our own. we can do better. commie aint the answer. nor is socialism. but we can tweak ours.
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alright, in what way would we tweak ours, while removing the socialism (public control and coercion) so that it is somehow not "all downside and no possibility" or "resulting in capital/IQ/Strength/Motivation/Ability inequality" ?

i'm curious. communism/socialism were some of the greatest minds attempts 150 years ago, and they all went to their graves unable to solve the riddle knowing their complaints were righteous but their solutions were flawed.
 
then take that extra rev and put it towards our infrastructure. roads. bridges. training for manual labor. startup funds for a guy wanting to go into the trades. fiber internet to every rural american. nuclear power plants, hydro dams, solar, wind.
 
NOTHINGWILLCHANGELANCE said:
for starters: tax rate too low for the high earners. post war america managed to expand dramatically even with the wildly high tax rate.

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post war america also had rationing, shortages, mass infusions of socialism and safety nets, dramatic shifts to hiding income, the introduction of the notion that "health insurance" can be tied to your job as an employment perk and such that led directly to the hyperinflation of the 1970's not very long after.

that is a shit policy and we've been there before and are still paying for it :confused: what in the fuck are you trying to talk about again??
 
Provience said:
post war america also had rationing, shortages, mass infusions of socialism and safety nets, dramatic shifts to hiding income, the introduction of the notion that "health insurance" can be tied to your job as an employment perk and such that led directly to the hyperinflation of the 1970's not very long after.

that is a shit policy and we've been there before and are still paying for it :confused: what in the fuck are you trying to talk about again??
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so you say post war had mass infusions of socialism then say the notion of health insurance as a perk of employment. are you suggesting health insurance should be a socialist solution in this country via healthcare for all by our federal taxes?
 
If you think corporate taxes will ever go up I have a beach front property to sell you in Arizona. Big corporate donates to both sides the left will parrot that they want to raise taxes but never will. Same with big pharma that shit will never change, too much money to be made lost and politicians doing politician things.
 
NOTHINGWILLCHANGELANCE said:
then take that extra rev and put it towards our infrastructure. roads. bridges. training for manual labor. startup funds for a guy wanting to go into the trades. fiber internet to every rural american. nuclear power plants, hydro dams, solar, wind.
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You had me at nuclear power plants. Try selling that to your delusional commie comrades.
 
bigun said:
LOL You ever run a business? I think not anytime the local tax went up I passed it straight on to my customers
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Idiot's don't get it , corporations don't pay fucking taxes , it's simply passed on to the end user/consumer . :rolleyes:

STFU with your class warfare you simpletons .:flipoff2:
 
Mother fucker gives us one days notice. Fucking stupid.

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NOTHINGWILLCHANGELANCE said:
so you say post war had mass infusions of socialism then say the notion of health insurance as a perk of employment. are you suggesting health insurance should be a socialist solution in this country via healthcare for all by our federal taxes?
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no, i'm saying that post wwII (which is comical that you are idealizing 1950's america when you earlier derided the attitudes of it) created very high tax situations that incentivized workers and employers to find "non income" compensation alternatives to avoid taxation rather than simply paying at the same rates directly. It removed a whole good bit of free market health care solutions by removing the ability of the individual employee to choose as cadillac plans become a more normative thing, and partial solutions were presented to others who were no longer incentivized to actually learn about and choose what they needed or wanted.

i'm not sure how that can be twisted to me advocating for a federal takeover of the health care industry :confused: it is directly a statement of the obvious unintended consequence of "very high income tax rates" because people simply avoid taxable income.

I'd fully support ending employer sponsored plans, opening up cross state restrictions and making 100% of "medical" payments direct deductions to income, no scheduling required.
 
NOTHINGWILLCHANGELANCE said:
you're also equating the shortages to the tax rate which really doesnt have any correlation.
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i'm equating the price and wage controls to the shortages. all your wonderful idealism is tied together, high taxes and wage controls and price controls = shortages. we've done it in this country, other countries have done it, it is a very strong correlation and well documented.
 
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