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Libertarians- “keep getting your 3% every four years”

45acp said:
Sweet. I'll have another baby, and keep it in the basement. It'll be a teen before it ever sees sunlight. It'll be a sex slave. Because the government can't tell me what is right or what is wrong for my kid.
I get your point- I really do. I just don't know how to reconcile it with true anarchy.
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Best of luck hiding that from your neighbors.

Remember; without the police, nobody is there to protect pedos and abusers of all varieties from the lynch mob.
 
45acp said:
I get your point- I really do. I just don't know how to reconcile it with true anarchy.
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You can’t. You either want the government to make medical decisions for your kid, or you don’t. That’s your only choice.
 
rockota said:
and yet you blamed VW for screwing up diesels by not following the bureaucrat rules that you now claim you dislike.
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I blamed them for being so blatant about it that they brought in even more government scrutiny and regulations.
 
ApeEater said:
I get it, you want the government to run your life. It’s fine, that’s your choice.
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Is "government running your life" when it keeps you from harming another person? Honest question because I really don't understand. And also, I don't think (or expect) the government to solve the trans kids problem. BUT, what does freedom and minimal .fed interference have to do with a psychotic parent/ doctor mutilating a child?

I'm an anti-.fed libertarian, so I should just be cool with my neighbor raping his kids? Because I don't want government interference?

:confused:
 
[486] said:
replacing the entirely unaccountable and well insulated bureaucrats with individuals with names and faces who need to answer to those around them for their actions is bad?
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This is why monarchies lasted so long. Kind and his key advisors were basically celebrities. That kept them mostly in check. Even if they didn't give a shit odds are enough of the other people in the inner circle liked having their heads on their shoulders to make them give a shit.
 
45acp said:
Is "government running your life" when it keeps you from harming another person? Honest question because I really don't understand. And also, I don't think (or expect) the government to solve the trans kids problem. BUT, what does freedom and minimal .fed interference have to do with a psychotic parent/ doctor mutilating a child?

I'm an anti-.fed libertarian, so I should just be cool with my neighbor raping his kids? Because I don't want government interference?

:confused:
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The government doesn’t keep anyone from harming anyone else. They just come do the paperwork after it happens.
 
[486] said:
against their parents' wishes, or only by parental consent?

there's a gulf of difference between 'the state has no right to make decisions for your children' and 'you have no right to make decisions for your children'
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Either. Are you all upset that a kid cant get a tattoo or a mortgage ?
 
45acp said:
I'm an anti-.fed libertarian, so I should just be cool with my neighbor raping his kids? Because I don't want government interference?
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You and everyone else absolutely should spout their moral opinions far and wide.
You shouldn't believe that the state as it is will ever share, enforce, or further your opinions over their own.
 
45acp said:
I'm an anti-.fed libertarian, so I should just be cool with my neighbor raping his kids? Because I don't want government interference?
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Now do drunk driving.

At the end of the day you need to be willing to tolerate some highly visible and highly concentrated minor evil in order to free yourself from diffuse but all encompassing major evil.

So yeah, if that's the price of freedom I'm gonna choose freedom every time.
 
[486] said:
You and everyone else absolutely should spout their moral opinions far and wide.
You shouldn't believe that the state as it is will ever share, enforce, or further your opinions over their own.
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What if someones opinion is about murdering someone? Because we arent discussing just opinins here. We are discussing actions. Actions being done by a state-licensed entity.
 
DMG said:
What if someones opinion is about murdering someone? Because we arent discussing just opinins here. We are discussing actions. Actions being done by a state-licensed entity.
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If someone's done enough wrong to you that killing them is justifiable to you, then go ahead
Actually that's kinda just as it is now. There are plenty of examples of small town shitbags getting shot dead in a crowded bar where nobody seems to have seen a thing.

Of course you'll bring up some ghengis kahn vlad the impaler type of example here
they'll gain a reputation for being the horrible people they are, piss off enough people by acting outside the moral norm of wherever they're living, and rifles happen to work at quite amazing distances these days
 
[486] said:
replacing the entirely unaccountable bureaucrats with individuals with names and faces who need to answer for their actions is bad?
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In your doomsday wet dream of police force vs lynch mob I take the police.

Foolish to think an unchecked mob wouldnt quickly collapse into a tyrannical clusterfuck without due process.
 
[486] said:
If someone's done enough wrong to you that killing them is justifiable to you, then go ahead
Actually that's kinda just as it is now. There are plenty of examples of small town shitbags getting shot dead in a crowded bar where nobody seems to have seen a thing.

Of course you'll bring up some ghengis kahn vlad the impaler type of example here
they'll gain a reputation for being the horrible people they are, piss off enough people by acting outside the moral norm of wherever they're living, and rifles happen to work at quite amazing distances these days
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You are really reaching here, my friend.
 
DMG said:
Either. Are you all upset that a kid cant get a tattoo or a mortgage ?
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not really, though I can work up something resembling an opinion on either

anyone who gets tattoos is just branding their insides onto their outsides for all to see
anyone who loans money to a child knows what they're doing, best of luck finding anyone who will risk trying to repossess little timmy's leg braces
 
[486] said:
not really, though I can work up something resembling an opinion on either

anyone who gets tattoos is just branding their insides onto their outsides for all to see
anyone who loans money to a child knows what they're doing, best of luck finding anyone who will risk trying to repossess little timmy's leg braces
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It is rare to see you evade a question like this
 
DMG said:
You are really reaching here, my friend.
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Society kinda just works out on its own, man.
We're all just creatures of instinct and for the very few who don't have the instinct for society will be naturally ejected from it.

Adding a whole bunch of bureaucratic red tape to life doesn't really serve anyone but those who are looking to write the rules for the rest
 
DMG said:
It is rare to see you evade a question like this
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I don't think I'm evading anything?

I'll never have children, so I don't have much of an opinion on them.
I don't speak for them just the same as I don't speak for you. Their parents however do speak for them.
 
[486] said:
I don't think I'm evading anything?

I'll never have children, so I don't have much of an opinion on them.
I don't speak for them just the same as I don't speak for you. Their parents however do speak for them.
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You didnt answer at all and you seemed to not know how a mortgage works. The reason it would be tough to collect on a mortgage given to a child is that it is illegal to give a mortgage to a child. If it were legal, kids would be in the same world of shit that some adults get themselves into with debt.


You just said a random thing about your opinion on tattoos.
 
DMG said:
You just said a random thing about your opinion on tattoos.
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isn't that what you asked for?
DMG said:
You didnt answer at all and you seemed to not know how a mortgage works. The reason it would be tough to collect on a mortgage given to a child is that it is illegal to give a mortgage to a child. If it were legal, kids would be in the same world of shit that some adults get themselves into with debt.
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a mortgage is a contract same as any other
at the end of the day what gives it any binding ability is someone being willing to use it to justify their use of force in retrieving that which is owed to them
 
[486] said:
Society kinda just works out on its own, man.
We're all just creatures of instinct and for the very few who don't have the instinct for society will be naturally ejected from it.

Adding a whole bunch of bureaucratic red tape to life doesn't really serve anyone but those who are looking to write the rules for the rest
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There seem to be a lot more outright murders than justifiable homocides. And then their are serial killers. Do we just hand wave all of them?

Thats how we get cartels in Mexico where there is a week government. Power abhors a vacuum.
 
[486] said:
isn't that what you asked for?

a mortgage is a contract same as any other
at the end of the day what gives it any binding ability is someone being willing to use it to justify their use of force in retrieving that which is owed to them
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I asked if it should be legal to tattoo kids. You said something about making the outside look like the inside


A bank has to be willing to use whatever force is available to get paid. Against kids or adults. For several reasons.
 
DMG said:
There seem to be a lot more outright murders than justifiable homocides. And then their are serial killers. Do we just hand wave all of them?
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Yes and how are they prevented?
They aren't.
DMG said:
Thats how we get cartels in Mexico where there is a week government. Power abhors a vacuum.
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In our hypothetical no-irs utopia, say Tony Tortallini decides to rough you up for protection money, how far is he going to get before arse barks at him like a terrier about 'catching a bullet'? Nowhere near as far as the IRS does.
 
DMG said:
I asked if it should be legal to tattoo kids. You said something about making the outside look like the inside
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That's about the extent of my opinion. They generally look dumb and reek of immediate regret, if that's more what you were looking for?

DMG said:
A bank has to be willing to use whatever force is available to get paid. Against kids or adults. For several reasons.
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Of course, but every contract is an agreement between two parties. Are you willing to do business with a bank who has crucified fifteen fourth graders in their front lawn?
I'd bet you'd go to great lengths to get everyone you know to avoid doing business with them. Might even toss a brick through their window.
 
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