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Libertarians- “keep getting your 3% every four years”

IEATRKS84 said:
This a prime example of why the Libertarian party is fucktarded and useless. None of them have the balls to stand up and say "transing kids is wrong and we do not support that." Because they have no moral code in which to base their political beliefs.
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Transitioning kids is wrong and should be illegal. Both doctors and parents involved should serve prison time.

- a libertarian
 
IEATRKS84 said:
This a prime example of why the Libertarian party is fucktarded and useless. None of them have the balls to stand up and say "transing kids is wrong and we do not support that." Because they have no moral code in which to base their political beliefs.
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At this point the only move is to leave the LP which is what my wife and i did.
 
DMG said:
At this point the only move is to leave the LP which is what my wife and i did.
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Not that it ever mattered, but it's become a clownshow on the same level of the republican party. Not quite as bad as the D yet... but give it time.

At this point in 2024 if you genuinely like anyone who may even think about running for POTUS then you're a psychopath.

:laughing:
 
IEATRKS84 said:
This a prime example of why the Libertarian party is fucktarded and useless. None of them have the balls to stand up and say "transing kids is wrong and we do not support that." Because they have no moral code in which to base their political beliefs.
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Me not liking something doesn’t mean I’m willing to fight against it at hired gunpoint. That’s the moral code.
DMG said:
He is in favor of medically transitioning children. He takes a pro-hamas position in the Israel/hamas war. He wants to further open the border. But you are ok with all that i am sure.
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I’m fine with a MUCH less restrictive immigration policy. Legal immigration shouldn’t be so difficult.

Edit: I haven’t seen any of his comments on Hamas. That could potentially change my opinion.

However, I don’t think we should be funding Israel’s war any more than Ukraine’s.

45acp said:
Transitioning kids is wrong and should be illegal. Both doctors and parents involved should serve prison time.

- a libertarian
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I don’t like the idea, but government is the last entity that should be controlling medical services. They can’t be trusted.
 
Animalmother said:
Its obvious from this thread that even libertarians cant agree what a libertarian is. Long standing problem among the party. Yes some want open borders, some are for transing the kids. Its a mixed bag of nuts. I said before, give them some ground on the drug issue and you win 90 percent over.

Also noticed people acknowledging that their party is being hijacked. Hijacking a party seems alot more feasible than breaking through on a 3rd party candidate. Trump did it. Thats why its the MAGA republican party now. The time to get your guy in is in the Republican primary.

Fully enjoying this thread so far. Its the equivalent of vegans threatening the world they wont eat meat.
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There has been plenty of discussion already about that very on this forum, it's the Libertarian vs libertarian discussions that go on.

There is definitely 2 sides to the libertarian party: the woke fags (beltway Libertarians and the reason type douche bags) and the mises caucus who basically hi jacked the party. They are more conservative, and advocate for closed borders, not pushing woke agendas, strong family structures etc.


I don't know why I even bothered typing that as your dumbass has shown repeatedly you are incapable of nuanced thought and only operate in black and white, my team good, yours bad type logic.
 
Honestly, this guy winning the LP nomination is the best thing for Trump. A lot of Libertarians will probably vote for Trump now vs. this guy.

Pretty sure I'm just gonna write in Dave Smith.
 
ApeEater said:
Me not liking something doesn’t mean I’m willing to fight against it at hired gunpoint. That’s the moral code.

I’m fine with a MUCH less restrictive immigration policy. Legal immigration shouldn’t be so difficult.

Edit: I haven’t seen any of his comments on Hamas. That could potentially change my opinion.

However, I don’t think we should be funding Israel’s war any more than Ukraine’s.


I don’t like the idea, but government is the last entity that should be controlling medical services. They can’t be trusted.
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We should not have any involvement in the Israel/hamas CF.

Sounds like you are OK with chopping up the genitals of children. Good to know.
 
ApeEater said:
I don’t like the idea, but government is the last entity that should be controlling medical services. They can’t be trusted.
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I agree, but I don't agree.

Changing the sex of a minor is in no way a medical service. Once grown (over 18) idgaf what they do as an adult. But putting a kid on puberty blockers, hormones, and chopping off/ adding on body parts to a 9yr old is not medical service.

Just like an abortion at month 9 is not an abortion. It's exterminating a baby.


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45acp said:
I agree, but I don't agree.

Changing the sex of a minor is in no way a medical service. Once grown (over 18) idgaf what they do as an adult. But putting a kid on puberty blockers, hormones, and chopping off/ adding on body parts to a 9yr old is not medical service.

Just like an abortion at month 9 is not an abortion. It's exterminating a baby.


:stirthepot:
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I don’t disagree at all, but I’m not a doctor, and don’t feel I should be making determinations on medical procedures. So I’m not willing to employ others to impose my will upon others.
 
ApeEater said:
Me not liking something doesn’t mean I’m willing to fight against it at hired gunpoint. That’s the moral code.

I’m fine with a MUCH less restrictive immigration policy. Legal immigration shouldn’t be so difficult.

Edit: I haven’t seen any of his comments on Hamas. That could potentially change my opinion.

However, I don’t think we should be funding Israel’s war any more than Ukraine’s.


I don’t like the idea, but government is the last entity that should be controlling medical services. They can’t be trusted.
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This is another prime example of a fucktarded libertarian. A society has to beget some sort of benefit, security and stability to the people who participate in it. Whether those people are bound to that society by religion, race or mere geography is irrelevant. If that society cant stand up and say "This thing is bad and we wont let it happen" then that society (or proposed political party) is doomed and the evolutionary equivalent of dead.

Transing kids is evil. Period. A government, even a libertarian one, has to be able to make a stand for something as simple as that. What youre proposing is anarchy, not smaller federal government.

Libertarians forget that the whole concept of their movement was to restrict FEDERAL government while strengthening the State or local governance bodies.

But now, they boo Trump while nominating a literal demon who supports masking, transing kids and open borders while screaming "MuH WEEEEDDDDZZZZ!!!"

fuck off, bucha of retards.
 
ApeEater said:
I don’t disagree at all, but I’m not a doctor, and don’t feel I should be making determinations on medical procedures. So I’m not willing to employ others to impose my will upon others.
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After what I witnessed from the United States medical community 2020- 2024, I feel very confident making my own determinations on medical procedures.
 
45acp said:
After what I witnessed from the United States medical community 2020- 2024, I feel very confident making my own determinations on medical procedures.
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Yes, me too. That’s my point.
 
ApeEater said:
I don’t disagree at all, but I’m not a doctor, and don’t feel I should be making determinations on medical procedures. So I’m not willing to employ others to impose my will upon others.
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Covid showed us how much doctors should be trusted.


Have you had your monthly booster yet?
 
IEATRKS84 said:
Transing kids is evil. Period. A government, even a libertarian one, has to be able to make a stand for something as simple as that. What youre proposing is anarchy, not smaller federal government.

Libertarians forget that the whole concept of their movement was to restrict FEDERAL government while strengthening the State or local governance bodies.

But now, they boo Trump while nominating a literal demon who supports transing kids

fuck off, bucha of retards.
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I agree with all of the above. Now, you fuck off, retard.

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IEATRKS84 said:
This is another prime example of a fucktarded libertarian…what youre proposing is anarchy, not smaller federal government.

Libertarians forget that the whole concept of their movement was to restrict FEDERAL government while strengthening the State or local governance bodies.

But now, they boo Trump while nominating a literal demon who supports masking, transing kids and open borders while screaming "MuH WEEEEDDDDZZZZ!!!"

fuck off, bucha of retards.
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The libertarian concept has never been restricted to federal government only.

DMG said:
Please jump headfirst into a woodchipper. You are not a libertarian. You are a pink haired screaming progressive.
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Lol, ok. :shaking: As you try to enforce your personal morals with government force.
 
Slander said:
There has been plenty of discussion already about that very on this forum, it's the Libertarian vs libertarian discussions that go on.

There is definitely 2 sides to the libertarian party: the woke fags (beltway Libertarians and the reason type douche bags) and the mises caucus who basically hi jacked the party. They are more conservative, and advocate for closed borders, not pushing woke agendas, strong family structures etc.


I don't know why I even bothered typing that as your dumbass has shown repeatedly you are incapable of nuanced thought and only operate in black and white, my team good, yours bad type logic.
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Yeah I don't know why you bothered either since all you did was agree with me and then proceeded to explain what we agree on like its a new idea to me.

Maybe all your nuance thought is making you complicate simple shit.
 
45acp said:
My 7yr old daughter likes wheelchairs. I have the right to have my Dr. amputate both legs. Right? It's between me and our doctor. She identifies as legless.

I realize this is ridiculous... but it's just as ridiculous as sex changing a little kid.
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Body disphoria is body disphoria...
 
45acp said:
My 7yr old daughter likes wheelchairs. I have the right to have my Dr. amputate both legs. Right? It's between me and our doctor. She identifies as legless.

I realize this is ridiculous... but it's just as ridiculous as sex changing a little kid.
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Yes, it’s ridiculous. I’d bet you couldn’t find a doctor that would perform that surgery. I’d also bet you couldn’t find a medical system willing to certify said doctor, and I bet further that you couldn’t find an insurance company that would insure them either.

But, if you could, I’m not willing to use government force to stop a medical decision.
 
45acp said:
I agree, but I don't agree.

Changing the sex of a minor is in no way a medical service. Once grown (over 18) idgaf what they do as an adult. But putting a kid on puberty blockers, hormones, and chopping off/ adding on body parts to a 9yr old is not medical service.

Just like an abortion at month 9 is not an abortion. It's exterminating a baby.


:stirthepot:
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Now this perfectly sane opinion or stand on this subject, why is so hard for people to grasp this notion?
 
ApeEater said:
I’d bet you couldn’t find a doctor that would perform that surgery. I’d also bet you couldn’t find a medical system willing to certify said doctor, and I bet further that you couldn’t find an insurance company that would insure them either.
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And yet all of the above is happening if you want to cut off a 9 year old's weiner

Are you even listening to yourself?
 
Bogus One said:
And yet all of the above is happening if you want to cut off a 9 year old's weiner

Are you even listening to yourself?
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Yes, I think that’s bad. I still have zero interest in having the government determine what is and is not a proper medical decision.
 
ApeEater said:
Yes, I think that’s bad. I still have zero interest in having the government determine what is and is not a proper medical decision.
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Who certifies a Medical Professional, Doctor, etc.?
:idea:
 
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ApeEater said:
Yes, I think that’s bad. I still have zero interest in having the government determine what is and is not a proper medical decision.
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I bet you have some disturbing views on the age of consent
 
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