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A-Salt truck. 2002 International 4900

JNHEscher said:
Hauled in a 8.76 ton load of 3/4 clean today and changed the oil. Wife rode along with the boys and I.

Gotta agree strongly with the DIY satisfaction. Both the wife and I do almost everything DIY. Gain the know-how and the experience. We're passing it on to the boys as well and that is something I'm very grateful for.
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What you doing with the clean stone? Putting in some drain tile?
 
ThePanzerFuhrer said:
What you doing with the clean stone? Putting in some drain tile?
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Yup. Backfill and drain tile.

I'd surely go with your recommendation of hiring stuff out with the next big round of stuff because it's going to be 64 2x2x6 concrete barrier blocks. Problem is getting the trailer to our driveway. Unless something works out, I gotta haul 5 at time in my dump truck and park where my buddy can unload them with a backhoe that we're renting.
 
Hopefully testing the accelerator pot tomorrow. Couple dead spots in it today caused the ECM to put in low idle only until it comes to a stop. Sure wish I could have gotten in to that International yard to grab some parts. Maybe I can find one down here.
 
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Pedal specs were all spot on. Test drove it to try to recreate the fault. Happened twice. No accell, defaults to idle, and SPN 164 FMI=10 (DTC 333) comes up. Injection Control Pressure abnormal rate of change. Coast to a stop and I can take right off again.

The Glowshift HPOP gauge seems like it's been funky the whole time. I've now opened up the truck twice to see the needle illuminated with the truck off. A couple other times I've had to unplug and plug it back in because it's stuck. Took the gauge out of the equation and will go for another test run tomorrow. When I get the chance, I'll check HPO fitting sizes so that I can tee in a mechanical gauge.
 
crispins said:
still enjoying this thread.

Wish you would get to the bus someday
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Me too. I was planning to go start hooking the bus up so I could pull it to the property and then this issue got bad.

We're planning to get a couple more loads of gravel tomorrow. I may still go hook up the bus. The truck starts and runs just fine, has power and doesn't have any trouble making it from A to B. I just need to figure out what exactly is setting the code. I hate all these sensitive ass electronics controlling diesels with a passion.
 
Hauled two more loads of 2" clean. Made another attempt to get through mud :homer:. Chained up and drove right out to get the second load.

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Drained the coolant and got the water separator swapped to the other side. Started on replumbing it with the PTC fittings.

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JNHEscher said:
The Glowshift HPOP gauge seems like it's been funky the whole time. I've now opened up the truck twice to see the needle illuminated with the truck off. A couple other times I've had to unplug and plug it back in because it's stuck. Took the gauge out of the equation and will go for another test run tomorrow. When I get the chance, I'll check HPO fitting sizes so that I can tee in a mechanical gauge.
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You wouldn't be the first one with crappy glow shift guages. Probably some cheap chinese alibaba crap, if you look at really cheap chineseium auto guages you start noticing some similarities.
 
GM Guy said:
You wouldn't be the first one with crappy glow shift guages. Probably some cheap chinese alibaba crap, if you look at really cheap chineseium auto guages you start noticing some similarities.
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I've been aware of that for several years. Gave them a try anyway. The truck is sti doing the same thing without the HPOP gauge. The ICP sensor may have gone south already.
 
Installing what I have from Hose and Fittings. Might be replacing the fittings shortly. They're not holding the tubing nearly as well as all the other same fittings I've purchased from them in the past few years. Collars keep falling out, so I'm gently bending the collar tangs outward to keep them in for now. I have to get a couple more anyway, so I might get all I need from Hyspeco next week.

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Gonna need to replace the water separator heat exchanger. I guess the reason it was bypassed is because the heat exchanger coolant and fuel passages are clogged.

I keep searching the brand and numbers. Everything I come up with is overseas. Wouldn't surprise me one bit if the dealer wants $600+ for this. Maybe I can fit a Subaru cooler on it.

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And roof racks! A little flimsy, but I can't complain about free shit. At least they make all that roof real estate somewhat useful. I had been pondering roof racks for a pv panel or two. Maybe that'll happen.

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overall pic of heat exchanger, filter number and hose size
I got a lot of them in my head, just lots of different ones out there
 
[486] said:
overall pic of heat exchanger, filter number and hose size
I got a lot of them in my head, just lots of different ones out there
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Left to right:
FS19547, heated filter head, heat exchanger, cap bolt.
5/8" ID hose, 1.75" overall exchanger thickness. Cap bolt measures 7/8-14.
Exchanger is of Modine brand.

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00s Ford 5.4 would probably fit.

Can you pull dimensions? I have one lying around.
 
Exchanger o-ring:
2.945" OD
2.6" ID
0.15" thick

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Cap o-ring:
2.78" OD
2.52" ID
Measures 0.085" thick, but it's so flat that it would be spilling coolant.

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I can post more of needed.
 
yup, ford econoline is similar re:7/8" or 22mm inside diameter, though they got 3/4" hoses, little smaller gasket surface and they're a lot thicker
 
[486] said:
yup, ford econoline is similar re:7/8" or 22mm inside diameter, though they got 3/4" hoses, little smaller gasket surface and they're a lot thicker
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The hoses are easy. I plan to run it in series with the air compressor. Exchanger thickness may be tricky.
[486] said:
Now I'm thinking you could toss an oil filter atop that guy for a cheap primary fuel filter lol.
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Because I'd have to figure out a longer cap bolt for the 5.4 exchanger, the idea of a filter on top came to mind as it would likely be easier. I'll search this more when I get to my laptop.
 
I'm striking out everywhere and don't have time for Modine to get back to me on this. I'll be at my dad's tomorrow and should have plenty of tools. Gonna try like hell to clean this exchanger out. Need to soak it in something that will dissolve diesel gunk.
 
JNHEscher said:
I'm striking out everywhere and don't have time for Modine to get back to me on this. I'll be at my dad's tomorrow and should have plenty of tools. Gonna try like hell to clean this exchanger out. Need to soak it in something that will dissolve diesel gunk.
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Crankcase cleaner or seafoam.
 
it is vegetable oil slime from the bio-d
I'd try some sort of hot acid
actually, I wouldn't run the fuel heater at all, but that's just me

school bus has an inline HX like you'd run for a transmission cooler or whatever, they got it for fuel heating and I'd assume that to only be all that useful if you left the shit running overnight

maybe grab a trans cooler plate-hx from an 08ish passat in the junkyard
they're big and thick and right up by the battery easy to snag
 
[486] said:
it is vegetable oil slime from the bio-d
I'd try some sort of hot acid
actually, I wouldn't run the fuel heater at all, but that's just me

school bus has an inline HX like you'd run for a transmission cooler or whatever, they got it for fuel heating and I'd assume that to only be all that useful if you left the shit running overnight

maybe grab a trans cooler plate-hx from an 08ish passat in the junkyard
they're big and thick and right up by the battery easy to snag
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Yeah, it's nasty. The primary/separator had B20 sitting in it for who knows how long.

I can't plumb this filter head back in without putting the exchanger back on or putting some sandwich adapter-like spacer in. I may just browse Summit for a filter head that has the correct threads for the filter itself.
 
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