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Vaccination mandates on the horizon.

2big bronco said:
If i got the "were calling your religious bs bluff" letter back, id make it my goal to write the most in depth legitimate responce possible
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I'd pretend to be a flaming fucking caricature then start annoying the absolute fuck outta HR until they got sick of dealing with me.
"excuuuse me, it's Xir or Xim, you absolutely need a hug honey" Then you dispense one (1) regulation hug
 
I haven’t had a vaccine since I turned 18 and was able to choose for myself. All my previous vaccinations were at the direction of my parents.

Either way I will tell anyone to fuck off. If your truly religious in your beliefs against the vaccine then I will stand beside you to defend your right not to have it. Up close or from a distance. As for me, its a fuck you cock sucker my belief system is none of your God damn business and I am willing to die defending that statement. We all die sometime and there is no room for cowardice in my life.
 
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2big bronco said:
If i got the "were calling your religious bs bluff" letter back, id make it my goal to write the most in depth legitimate responce possible
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My girlfriend went above and beyond detailing every angle possible with bible verses to back it up start to finish. If I ever got to the point of needing that line of bullshit I'm doing a straight up copy/paste of her response for damned sure.
 
DWT said:
My girlfriend went above and beyond detailing every angle possible with bible verses to back it up start to finish. If I ever got to the point of needing that line of bullshit I'm doing a straight up copy/paste of her response for damned sure.
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Well, let's see it, post it up. I'm sure others here could use it...
 
2big bronco said:
If i got the "were calling your religious bs bluff" letter back, id make it my goal to write the most in depth legitimate responce possible
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Mine has embarrassing shit in it. If they are making me share, I'm making them blush. My boss will NEVER look at me the same. I swear to all holy gods if I have to interview or fill out anything else, every answer is going to be-

"I masterbate the virus from my body."

Fuck. Them. :mad3:
 
lagunaMS said:
The gov agency I work for uses the following verbiage:

It accordance with Reference A (Executive Order 14043) and <government agency name>'s duty to provide and maintain a workplace that is free of known hazards, we are implementing a mandatory COVID-19 vaccination policy effective immediately.

So they took it upon themselves to add that little catch-all at the end implying that anyone not vaccinated is a workplace hazard. This is a steaming pile of horse shit
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That's a straight up copy of the OSHA general duty clause. This part: "and <government agency name>'s duty to provide and maintain a workplace that is free of known hazards."

That sets a pretty crazy precidence when it comes to communicable diseases.
 
Void_of_Light said:
You need a blood sucking lawyer to ask them for proof that none of your coworkers have any disease that you may come into contact with during the course of your day. I think a full medical and criminal history needs to be taken to make sure the place is as safe as possible.
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Yup!! I would demand to know everyone who has a mental illness and what drugs they are on and what the company is doing about it to prevent workplace violence events. Some bullshit ass training and a no weapon sign doesn't count. Are they fireing them? Why not? It's their duty to have a workplace free of hazards and workplace violence is a pretty big one....
 
Slander said:
That's a straight up copy of the OSHA general duty clause. This part: "and <government agency name>'s duty to provide and maintain a workplace that is free of known hazards."

That sets a pretty crazy precidence when it comes to communicable diseases.
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I caught herpes off your toilet, PAY ME!

I caught mono from the coffee, PAY ME!

This cold came from Clara in Payroll, PAY ME!
 
Mr.Ratbastard said:
Maybe it's time to make complaining to Osha about other unsafe conditions in the workplace a common occurance.
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Hell....it doesn't even need to be anything 'unsafe'......just anything that makes you 'feel' unsafe. Maybe make a report about EVERY sidewalk on property not having a handrail.
 
Mr.Ratbastard said:
Maybe it's time to make complaining to Osha about other unsafe conditions in the workplace a common occurance.
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The only issue with that, besides keeping an overpaid workplace safety beaurocrat like me employed, is companies will crack down and go above and beyond the standards to keep OSHA off their ass. So you could inadvertantly create a shittier, more draconian, work environment for yourself by bringing the feds in, especially if you are in a place like CA, OR, or Washington with overly liberal crazy, business hateing OSHA state plans.
 
Slander said:
The only issue with that, besides keeping an overpaid workplace safety beaurocrat like me employed, is companies will crack down and go above and beyond the standards to keep OSHA off their ass. So you could inadvertantly create a shittier, more draconian, work environment for yourself by bringing the feds in, especially if you are in a place like CA, OR, or Washington with overly liberal crazy, business hateing OSHA state plans.
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Stupid should hurt.

it isn't necessary that we win, only that they lose.
 
read this morning that a hospital system near me just fired 100 nurses who didn't get the shot.

yeah... we've seen the meme... there's no way anyone can justify calling this a pandemic while simultaneously gutting the healthcare system.
 
Void_of_Light said:
Stupid should hurt.

it isn't necessary that we win, only that they lose.
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What I'm saying is you would lose in the end. All the complaints would justify further draconian COVID measures in your workplace. Yea it would be a bit of a time suck, mainly for people already employed there to argue with OSHA, but it wouldn't make the company itself hurt, just your self.

It would be like you calling the ATF on your local gun range on some trumped up BS because they changed the hours or something stupid like that. Ultimately it will hurt everyone.
 
Slander said:
What I'm saying is you would lose in the end. All the complaints would justify further draconian COVID measures in your workplace. Yea it would be a bit of a time suck, mainly for people already employed there to argue with OSHA, but it wouldn't make the company itself hurt, just your self.

It would be like you calling the ATF on your local gun range on some trumped up BS because they changed the hours or something stupid like that. Ultimately it will hurt everyone.
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yes/no.

it certainly could backfire.

But it would also drive productivity further down, which will hurt revenues... and hopefully, ultimately, result in pushback from employers.
 
Slander said:
What I'm saying is you would lose in the end. All the complaints would justify further draconian COVID measures in your workplace. Yea it would be a bit of a time suck, mainly for people already employed there to argue with OSHA, but it wouldn't make the company itself hurt, just your self.

It would be like you calling the ATF on your local gun range because they changed the hours or something stupid like that. Ultimately it will hurt everyone.
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The future of any business that mandates I get a vaccine or lose my job isn't going to be my concern for very long.
 
rockota said:
yes/no.

it certainly could backfire.

But it would also drive productivity further down, which will hurt revenues... and hopefully, ultimately, result in pushback from employers.
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Have you ever been somewhere that has had an OSHA inspection? It ties up the safety manager and another manager for an few hours. That's about the only hit to productivity. People like me sit on conference calls for a few hours with lawyers and you send them the response. Done.

That's if they even come out, 99% of the time they just send a letter that there was a complaint, then you send the response and they close it out with no action most of the time.

Why on god's green earth would you EVER call the feds for ANYTHING especially COVID related I will never know. No one in government cares about you, and they are 100% in bed with the companies. Typical conservative idiot logic, we hate the gov yet we need big government to save us, all while chanting phrase about the trees of liberty need to be watered with blood.:homer:

By all means call OSHA on legit workplace hazards that the company refuses to fix, but to try to use them to show how stupid COVID vaccine requirements are is completely retarded.
 
Mr.Ratbastard said:
Maybe it's time to make complaining to Osha about other unsafe conditions in the workplace a common occurance.
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We have had some serious issues with the elevators in the building. Multiple people getting stuck for 10-40 minutes. Elevators stopping half way through a floor and opening doors. It stopped about a month ago, but that would have been a great time
 
Slander said:
Have you ever been somewhere that has had an OSHA inspection? It ties up the safety manager and another manager for an few hours. That's about the only hit to productivity. People like me sit on conference calls for a few hours with lawyers and you send them the response. Done.

That's if they even come out, 99% of the time they just send a letter that there was a complaint, then you send the response and they close it out with no action most of the time.

Why on god's green earth would you EVER call the feds for ANYTHING especially COVID related I will never know. No one in government cares about you, and they are 100% in bed with the companies. Typical conservative idiot logic, we hate the gov yet we need big government to save us, all while chanting phrase about the trees of liberty need to be watered with blood.:homer:

By all means call OSHA on legit workplace hazards that the company refuses to fix, but to try to use them to show how stupid COVID vaccine requirements are is completely retarded.
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I'm not saying it's a perfect idea. I'm just saying that if OSHA is going to take the position of enforcing vaccine mandates, then taking a play out of Rules for Radicals and Cloward-Pivan, and overloading the system, might be an interesting approach.
 
Slander said:
What I'm saying is you would lose in the end. All the complaints would justify further draconian COVID measures in your workplace. Yea it would be a bit of a time suck, mainly for people already employed there to argue with OSHA, but it wouldn't make the company itself hurt, just your self.

It would be like you calling the ATF on your local gun range on some trumped up BS because they changed the hours or something stupid like that. Ultimately it will hurt everyone.
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did you knoe in 1812 Moscow was ordered to be set on fire when they knew Napoleon was coming? Napoleon retreated shortly after. Even he aknowledged its genius.

just sayin
 
rockota said:
I'm not saying it's a perfect idea. I'm just saying that if OSHA is going to take the position of enforcing vaccine mandates, then taking a play out of Rules for Radicals and Cloward-Pivan, and overloading the system, might be an interesting approach.
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Flooding OSHA with complaints now would only justify the measures as the voice of the worker. Additionally it would increase their budget and they would the need for more enforcement.

IMO the better approach is using their logic against them and start actively getting the woke crowd riled up over open workplace discrimination. The whole POC are the least vaccinated group and you can now openly discriminate against them. How is this not over racism? I thought we are supposed to be anti racist, yet people support this. That would have more of an impact IMO. Fight the left from the left...
 
Slander said:
Have you ever been somewhere that has had an OSHA inspection? It ties up the safety manager and another manager for an few hours. That's about the only hit to productivity. People like me sit on conference calls for a few hours with lawyers and you send them the response. Done.

That's if they even come out, 99% of the time they just send a letter that there was a complaint, then you send the response and they close it out with no action most of the time.

Why on god's green earth would you EVER call the feds for ANYTHING especially COVID related I will never know. No one in government cares about you, and they are 100% in bed with the companies. Typical conservative idiot logic, we hate the gov yet we need big government to save us, all while chanting phrase about the trees of liberty need to be watered with blood.:homer:

By all means call OSHA on legit workplace hazards that the company refuses to fix, but to try to use them to show how stupid COVID vaccine requirements are is completely retarded.
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You sound like you've gotten too comfy in that world. The feds and covid are already in my fucking world uninvited. They weaponized my job, well so can I. It's really that simple. I can generate complaints faster than you can deal with them. Now multiply. I hope your world gets as miserable as mine dealing with this.

There's rules that cost money to follow as well. I've seen what one ergonomic office chair order cost a whole floor at a bank because everyone found out all they had to do was complainask.
 
Slander said:
Flooding OSHA with complaints now would only justify the measures as the voice of the worker. Additionally it would increase their budget and they would the need for more enforcement.

IMO the better approach is using their logic against them and start actively getting the woke crowd riled up over open workplace discrimination. The whole POC are the least vaccinated group and you can now openly discriminate against them. How is this not over racism? I thought we are supposed to be anti racist, yet people support this. That would have more of an impact IMO. Fight the left from the left...
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We're targeting the business moron, not you and your precious OSHA.
 
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