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Vaccination mandates on the horizon.

Yota Up said:
Except for abortion, or hormone treat for trans people, or any other agenda favored by the left.
Right?
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I wasn't going to say it because unfortunately in today's society it seems like that's already implied. Clown world.

I'm sure glad I don't have kids to try and raise on today's world and I feel for those who do.
 
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aczlan said:
In NY in the early teens kids can get vaccinations, abortions, std tests/treatment, etc without parental consent.

Aaron Z
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Ok, so back to my question: Does a kid have a right to DENY the vaccine, even if the parents want him to get it?
Or is it a one way street only, where kids only have rights that are favored by the left agenda?
 
Yota Up said:
Ok, so back to my question: Does a kid have a right to DENY the vaccine, even if the parents want him to get it?
Or is it a one way street only, where kids only have rights that are favored by the left agenda?
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I think if you look through history, many instances will show that kids typically need to either be legally emancipated, or their parents deemed unfit to make those decisions and another guardian appointed to make those decisions in order for the kids to have any leg to stand on to prevent their parents making those decisions for them.

I'm sure it varies by state, as it should, and I believe abortions were a "carve out" with regards to children's rights.

I see where you're going with this and it seems like you're trying to determine what's "right" vs "what's the law". Unfortunately in this instance (vaccination), those 2 are likely at odds with each other.
 
I am genuinely curious if a kid out there doesn't want it, can the parents force him?
If that's true, I feel real bad for any kids that will be forced into it.
 
FleshEater said:
People have got to stop saying socialist. We’re a fascist country now.
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ehh, both words are kind of shit because both are without a concrete definition

"authoritarian" would be an okay substitution, though really it ain't that quite yet either because I haven't been asked for my (nonexistent) shot papers even once, nor have I been arrested for responding to "here's a free mask" with "no thank you"
 
Yota Up said:
Ok, so back to my question: Does a kid have a right to DENY the vaccine, even if the parents want him to get it?
Or is it a one way street only, where kids only have rights that are favored by the left agenda?
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IIRC they have to affirmatively allow their parents to go into the exam room with them and to let them view their health records, so I would assume that they can refuse it if they wish.

Aaron Z
 
Yota Up said:
I am genuinely curious if a kid out there doesn't want it, can the parents force him?
If that's true, I feel real bad for any kids that will be forced into it.
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I'm with you there, I think it's a travesty if this is forced on a kid that doesn't want it.
 
Here in Larimer County Colorado they are imposing a mask mandate (for everyone) unless the business has a vax mandate.

fucked up
 
Boss said:
So anyone else hearing that vaccine mandates are just another Biden janky scam?

He hasn't followed through with the order to have OSHA create the law. Businesses don't have a right to enforce this sham until OSHA creates the rule.

The theory is, it would never pass legal scrutiny so let's just say we're doing it but never follow up with making it legal.
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Last I heard a few weeks ago was that the honcho of OSHA was not going to implement such a mandate.

Could be wrong and it could change any day, but that’s the last I heard on it.
 
Slander said:
So basically what happened in 2021 then.

Above is quoted for retardedness.

Republicans do not play the long game at all and that is their down fall. The Liberals are/were masters of the long game, look at how much they have pushed things. Conservative ideals of 2021 was communist liberal propaganda of the 1990s. While the right was arguing about abortion and gay marriage, liberals were taking over all the cultural, media and educational institutions, it really was a masterful plan. So I really don't know what reality you live in, but you basically replaced what literally happened over the course of our life times and replaced it with republican as some sort of weird fan fiction.
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Twit is a brainwashed Communist. Pure and simple.

He’s the kid that when he did something wrong and his parents said ‘why did you do that’?

He replied: because everyone else was doing it.

His parents then asked: ‘well if everyone jumped off a cliff, would you do the same’?

And Twit said: ‘Yes. Yes I would. I am a good Communist, I am afraid of Freedom because I can’t handle it.
Freedom comes with personal accountability and responsibility and I’m not comfortable with that’
 
TanTJJim said:
I just googled "children's right to health care decisions" and the overwhelming consensus is that children are only able to make their own decisions with respect to health care when they reach the age of 18, before that the right lies with the parents.
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That’s the way I read it and has been my experience thus far.
Parental responsibility goes beyond “you aren’t the boss of me”, but actually, yes I am until you’re a legal adult.
 
TanTJJim said:
I wasn't going to say it because unfortunately in today's society it seems like that's already implied. Clown world.

I'm sure glad I don't have kids to try and raise on today's world and I feel for those who do.
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My daughter wasn’t planned but I’m damn glad she is here.

That said, I would never consider having a child in this fucked up world we have now.

Bless those with many years to go.
 
Just a reminder of what natural immunity looks like:
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Just submitted a religious exemption, and immediately got this back. Fucked up they didnt just put these in the form that they have you fill out.

Good morning,

As part of our review of your Religious Accommodation request, please respond to following questions:

How long have you held the religious belief underlying your objection?
Please describe whether, as an adult, you have received any vaccines against any other diseases (such as a flu vaccine or a tetanus vaccine) and, if so, what vaccine you most recently received and when, to the best of your recollection.
If you do not have a religious objection to the use of all vaccines, please explain why your objection is limited to particular vaccines.
If there are any other medicines or products that you do not use because of the religious belief underlying your objection, please identify them.
Would complying with the COVID-19 vaccination requirement substantially burden your religious exercise? If so, please explain how.



As a reminder, all answers provided need to be complete and accurate. Any intentional misrepresentation contained in this request may result in disciplinary action, up to and including termination of employment

Thank you,

____ Vaccine Accommodations
 
brantb said:
Just submitted a religious exemption, and immediately got this back. Fucked up they didnt just put these in the form that they have you fill out.

Good morning,

As part of our review of your Religious Accommodation request, please respond to following questions:

How long have you held the religious belief underlying your objection?
Please describe whether, as an adult, you have received any vaccines against any other diseases (such as a flu vaccine or a tetanus vaccine) and, if so, what vaccine you most recently received and when, to the best of your recollection.
If you do not have a religious objection to the use of all vaccines, please explain why your objection is limited to particular vaccines.
If there are any other medicines or products that you do not use because of the religious belief underlying your objection, please identify them.
Would complying with the COVID-19 vaccination requirement substantially burden your religious exercise? If so, please explain how.



As a reminder, all answers provided need to be complete and accurate. Any intentional misrepresentation contained in this request may result in disciplinary action, up to and including termination of employment

Thank you,

____ Vaccine Accommodations
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I don't get why it has to be a deeply held religious belief to not get it. Why isn't "i don't fucking want it" a good enough deeply held belief:confused:
 
brantb said:
Just submitted a religious exemption, and immediately got this back. Fucked up they didnt just put these in the form that they have you fill out.

Good morning,

As part of our review of your Religious Accommodation request, please respond to following questions:

How long have you held the religious belief underlying your objection?
Please describe whether, as an adult, you have received any vaccines against any other diseases (such as a flu vaccine or a tetanus vaccine) and, if so, what vaccine you most recently received and when, to the best of your recollection.
If you do not have a religious objection to the use of all vaccines, please explain why your objection is limited to particular vaccines.
If there are any other medicines or products that you do not use because of the religious belief underlying your objection, please identify them.
Would complying with the COVID-19 vaccination requirement substantially burden your religious exercise? If so, please explain how.



As a reminder, all answers provided need to be complete and accurate. Any intentional misrepresentation contained in this request may result in disciplinary action, up to and including termination of employment

Thank you,

____ Vaccine Accommodations
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It's none of their business . Your medical history and religion are private and shall remain private.
 
Sterlingfire said:
I don't get why it has to be a deeply held religious belief to not get it. Why isn't "i don't fucking want it" a good enough deeply held belief:confused:
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This, The religious belief thing boxes you in. They can come back later and go, here ya go, this one doesn't have anything in it, that you were against previously.
 
Filthy McChevy said:
Has anybody said they only would get the actual FDA approved vaccine Comirnaty, and it wasn't available?
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I've posed my company a question along those lines (not saying I would take it), but also added since the company-sponsored life insurance doesn't pay out for experimental treatments (such as these shots), will the company itself provide insurance if they force the experimental versions of the shot. The response.....still waiting....for weeks
 
Void_of_Light said:
This, The religious belief thing boxes you in. They can come back later and go, here ya go, this one doesn't have anything in it, that you were against previously.
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and it prevents beliefs from maturing over time.

of course, I could see some attempting to use this logic against certain religions... I am actually curious what islam says about this....
 
lagunaMS said:
The gov agency I work for uses the following verbiage:

It accordance with Reference A (Executive Order 14043) and <government agency name>'s duty to provide and maintain a workplace that is free of known hazards, we are implementing a mandatory COVID-19 vaccination policy effective immediately.

So they took it upon themselves to add that little catch-all at the end implying that anyone not vaccinated is a workplace hazard. This is a steaming pile of horse shit
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They did the same. That was handed down from the government. You can bet on it.
 
brantb said:
Just submitted a religious exemption, and immediately got this back. Fucked up they didnt just put these in the form that they have you fill out.

Good morning,

As part of our review of your Religious Accommodation request, please respond to following questions:

How long have you held the religious belief underlying your objection?
Please describe whether, as an adult, you have received any vaccines against any other diseases (such as a flu vaccine or a tetanus vaccine) and, if so, what vaccine you most recently received and when, to the best of your recollection.
If you do not have a religious objection to the use of all vaccines, please explain why your objection is limited to particular vaccines.
If there are any other medicines or products that you do not use because of the religious belief underlying your objection, please identify them.
Would complying with the COVID-19 vaccination requirement substantially burden your religious exercise? If so, please explain how.



As a reminder, all answers provided need to be complete and accurate. Any intentional misrepresentation contained in this request may result in disciplinary action, up to and including termination of employment

Thank you,

____ Vaccine Accommodations
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The other vaccines did not use dead babies, and since you are anti-abortion, that is what makes this one different.
And if things change in the future, don't forget you always have the right to convert to another religion at any time.
 
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lagunaMS said:
The gov agency I work for uses the following verbiage:

It accordance with Reference A (Executive Order 14043) and <government agency name>'s duty to provide and maintain a workplace that is free of known hazards, we are implementing a mandatory COVID-19 vaccination policy effective immediately.

So they took it upon themselves to add that little catch-all at the end implying that anyone not vaccinated is a workplace hazard. This is a steaming pile of horse shit
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You need a blood sucking lawyer to ask them for proof that none of your coworkers have any disease that you may come into contact with during the course of your day. I think a full medical and criminal history needs to be taken to make sure the place is as safe as possible.
 
lagunaMS said:
The gov agency I work for uses the following verbiage:

It accordance with Reference A (Executive Order 14043) and <government agency name>'s duty to provide and maintain a workplace that is free of known hazards, we are implementing a mandatory COVID-19 vaccination policy effective immediately.
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Which is a absolute fucking JOKE because it's known that the 'Vaccine' does NOT prevent infection OR transmission. :mad3:
There is evidence that transmission rates are Higher among highly Vax'd polulations.
 
Yota Up said:
The other vaccines did not use dead babies, and since you are anti-abortion, that is what makes this one different.
And if things change in the future, don't forget you always have the right to convert to another religion at any time.
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A friend of mine submitted her "application" for religious exemption, her HR department came back with a questionnaire to "find out more" about her religious beliefs. Specifically they asked what vaccinations she had, had previously and how long ago; when did she "convert" to the religion and what other products does she avoid as part of her beliefs.

Basically, if your answer is "I don't want the vax because it contains aborted fetus tissues" then you have to back that up by stating what other products/vaccines you avoid due to this belief.

So do your research and have answers prepped beforehand, here is just one page I found (not claiming it is accurate, just that I found it) using a quick Duck-Duck-Go search: Products That Use Aborted Fetuses [+Downloadable List]
 
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