To perhaps 'disguise' just how much surveillance they're really doing?
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CDA 455 II
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Looks like it.Curious, is the framework on the turret an attempt to get Javelin missiles to go off before they hit the top of the turret?
Source: Ukrainian troops RECAPTURE Kyiv airport in major blow to Vladimir Putin
Aaron Z
With the grill set up; I would say so.
Like the set up we had against RPGs:
but they cant go to ukraine
Thefishguy77
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No. That way the potato cant fuck it up worse than is already happening.
Void_of_Light
Keeping I.T. real
Freaking overlanders and their unnecessary roof racks.Curious, is the framework on the turret an attempt to get Javelin missiles to go off before they hit the top of the turret?
Source: Ukrainian troops RECAPTURE Kyiv airport in major blow to Vladimir Putin
Aaron Z
CDA 455 II
ANFAQUE2
IIRC; Javelins and Hellfire missiles home in from above, striking down.
That umbrella grill set up would interfere with that.
Grendel
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But they can sit right outside it and deliver food, weapons and medical supplies.
aczlan
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What purpose would it serve? The only use I could see would be to keep someone from throwing a grenade down the hatch and have it slide off, but even there shouldn't it be a smooth slope so it slides off?
That is what I was thinking, gives them something with enough mass to register as a hit, but it wont trap the pressure wave from the blast.Looks like it.
With the grill set up; I would say so.
Like the set up we had against RPGs:
Or so Putler claims
Aaron Z
CDA 455 II
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Poland shares a border with Ukraine.
Poland is a NATO country.
U.S. have many bases in Poland.
Thefishguy77
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You’re welcome
arse_sidewards
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Javelin can direct engage but the frontal armor is thicker. IDK if that will do enough to stop a hellfire. It's not exactly a small warhead
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You don't say? :)
We can also defend the citizens, from shit like this:
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Weasel
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Trump was an idiot as well, he had ever opportunity to either minimize this beef with Russia or provide Ukraine with arms and basically did nothing. Well other then call them and ask for dirt.
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Front armor has ERA, that’s what the blocks are. Explodes when hit and destroys the projectile.
Their roof racks have only been seen on a couple t-90bvm’s. But I haven’t seen any video/ imagery of them on the front lines yet.
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Javelin has a double tap warhead for specifically that reason.
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Those slats on the roof are designed to damage the warhead before it has a chance to detonate, essentially breaking it up before it detonates, and since most modern threats to armor are going to come from the top, that's why they're there. Notice the squares all over the rest of the body, which are reactive armor panels that behave similarly, but instead take the impact before allowing the shaped charge to pierce the hull by simply adding some distance. I believe they're mostly hollow inside so they don't add a ton of weight, but give enough of a standoff distance that the charge won't cut through the actual armor behind them. At least that's my understanding of it.
Motorcharge
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What would either option have done for anyone?
He was handed the situation and did try to ease tensions between both countries by getting involved in Ukraine when Zelenskyy suspended open elections. The media crucified him for it and furthered their "Russian agent" bullshit.
He couldn't legally provide arms to Ukraine either, he signed into law an act barring us from providing them arms or money following Obama's handling of the Zelenskyy's coup in 2014.
Nevermind that none of it is our fucking business. Any blame for this on the American side lies solely with the Obama and Biden administrations. It has fuck all to do with Trump and blaming him for not doing more couldn't be more ignorant.
the ERA explodes when hit and disturbs the stream of metal from the shaped charge. That's the reactive bit. What you described is spaced armor.
I'm sure the big roof rack is to keep people with RPGs and shit on top of buildings from shooting directly top down. RPG probably punch through the top of a T72/80 turret. The ERA would stop it, but costs money to replace and multiple hits would deplete it and leave you vulnerable.
Trackerbacker(fvckvs)
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Why? So we could waste money, get involved in more conflict, continue to tell people how to run their lives? "Rebuild" another nation? Stifle some country, meddle in their politics and continue proxy shit?
Trumps not smart for listening to his set of advisors that were more political appointees than experts in the fields privately. He should've, if anything, called putin, set up some sort of bilateral agreements on trade, super powers and our own nato/un/nation of 2, and told the rest of the world to fuck off.
The rest of the world needs us, it's time they take their training wheels off.
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ugh, that guy again?
ain't they been used in that whole gwot deal?
Trackerbacker(fvckvs)
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I'd agree
Weasel
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Yet he didn't. And how you liking that inflation of overseas goods? Cause the rest of the worlds needs us and we don't need them? Everything we buy comes from the "rest of them". We don't make crap anymore (well that's about it).
Biden seems to have found a way to provide them arms. Maybe if he wasn't so busy defending his ego on Twitter he could have figured out something. He was a genius president for 4 years but yet just threw up his hands on this mess. Yeah right like I'd want that genius back in office.
Trackerbacker(fvckvs)
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Hmm...
Stateside drilling & oil production
Repatriation
Incentives to bring manufacturing/ production back
Lack of meddling overseas, and if we must, make it swift, in/ out.
TCJA
Can't seem to remember who was marching us towards that.
So again, why/ what do we have to gain by meddling? Lower gas/oil prices? Reduction in exports for stateside companies? Pray tell
Rooster831
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That’s a big one
Treefrog
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I read that it was russians dressed as Ukrainian soldiers.
Machine-gun carnage in Kyiv suburb: Russian'saboteurs' are gunned down
The clash saw at least two people gunned down in a stolen Ukrainian truck in a car park in front of a large apartment block in Obolon, found north of Kyiv.www.dailymail.co.uk
The video showing from the other side, the one with the military truck, has close up after combat footage. Apparently it was an ambush carried out by Ukrainian soldiers on saboteurs of the Russian Federation, dressed in the uniform of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. It seems the most prevalent thought is that the car crushing was an accident. Distracted driver in a large vehicle with limited external view.