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DWT said:
Damn I'll go pick those sets up today, they'll replace my mid depth mishmash from strap-on, s&k, craftsman, performance tool and Stanley I've been using for years.



So you value your ol lady like that too? Personally I beat the brakes off everything I've got with no regard for the next guy. I'll have my tools until I'm dead, I ain't selling shit because a man without tools may as well be dead anyway.
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Glad I could help you out on your upcoming tool purchase!

I’m trying to get the correlation to the OlLady, but no matter how I twist it on my head it doesn’t make sense. But I am open to offers, just bear in mind I have a strict no returns policy.


Do I literally hammer on my snap-on stuff? No, not literally, that would be dumb when there are other options. I have other sets for that.

Have I put a 5’ pipe on a 3/8” Snap-on breaker bar and 12 pt 3/4” socket because it was my only option on a Sunday to had to pull a broken from u-joint and axle out of my dodge 12 valve so I could get to work the next day. yes. $85 breaker bar vs $1000 12 hr day. Breaker bar and socket actually survived.

Point is, Snap-on has monetary value after purchase, whether you need it to eat or pass it down to your son when you no longer need them.

The HF equity ends when you walk out the door.

Bear in mind this is coming from someone who keeps his tools in a HF tool box.
 
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muddyrover said:
I’m trying to get the correlation to the OlLady, but no matter how I twist it on my head it doesn’t make sense. But I am open to offers, just bear in mind I have a strict no returns policy.


Do I literally hammer on my snap-on stuff? No, not literally, that would be dumb when there are other options. I have other sets for that.

Have I put a 5’ pipe on a 3/8” Snap-on breaker bar and 12 pt 3/4” socket because it was my only option on a Sunday to had to pull a broken from u-joint and axle out of my dodge 12 valve so I could get to work the next day. yes. $85 breaker bar vs $1000 12 hr day. Breaker bar and socket actually survived.

Point is, Snap-on has monetary value after purchase, whether you need it to eat or pass it down to your son when you no longer need them.

The HF equity ends when you walk out the door.

Bear in mind this is coming from someone who keeps his tools in a HF tool box.
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The only time somethings resale value comes into play is when you're worried about it's condition for the next guy. Like not fucking your old lady so she's still got a tight snapper for the next dude. :homer:


I keep my tools in a HF box too. It's nicer than the old craftsman shit we all grew up with by leaps and bounds but it's nowhere near as nice as tool truck boxes. I'm biased but not retarded. :laughing: Icon boxes are a whole lot closer to tool truck boxes at <50% cost but until I have a windfall of cash or the current boxes fail they ain't getting replaced.
 
muddyrover said:
ICON Semi-deep for the Semi-professional








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I've been buying more and more Icon lately. The quality is decent and they do a damn good job of copying what makes Snap-On tools unique. Theres some things they cant replace yet, but I've been happy with my purchases so far. That said they just released some 1/4" universal sockets I picked up, but they're 6pt and the best use for those sockets is 12pt driveline bolts:laughing:
 
Resale value lets me justify the crazy prices in my head… don’t ruin it for me.

If I had these when I was trying to get a melted in wrist pin retaining clip out of a chainsaw piston the other day I wouldn’t have a hole in my knuckle where a Chinese pick broke and stabbed my hand.

Price is all relative.
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Alpine4x4 said:
I've been buying more and more Icon lately. The quality is decent and they do a damn good job of copying what makes Snap-On tools unique. Theres some things they cant replace yet, but I've been happy with my purchases so far. That said they just released some 1/4" universal sockets I picked up, but they're 6pt and the best use for those sockets is 12pt driveline bolts:laughing:
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12 point sockets are getting kinda scarce these days. I was happy to find whatever parts store I was closest to had 12 point 10mm to replace the starter on a stranded Dodge a while back so that lives in my truck. Need to source a whole set one of these days. I had to buy a whole set last year to get a 14mm 12 point to do Dodge wheel unit bearings since my set was missing only that 14 but has 2 13mm 1/2" sockets. :lmao:
 
muddyrover said:
Resale value lets me justify the crazy prices in my head… don’t ruin it for me.

If I had these when I was trying to get a melted in wrist pin retaining clip out of a chainsaw piston the other day I wouldn’t have a hole in my knuckle where a Chinese pick broke and stabbed my hand.

Price is all relative.
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Something like a pick set I'll spend extra on since it's not an absurd cost. I have a few cheap ($15 and under) sets but I know damned well not to do something ignorant with them. :laughing: They're called seal picks not pry bars. :flipoff2:
 
DWT said:
12 point sockets are getting kinda scarce these days. I was happy to find whatever parts store I was closest to had 12 point 10mm to replace the starter on a stranded Dodge a while back so that lives in my truck. Need to source a whole set one of these days. I had to buy a whole set last year to get a 14mm 12 point to do Dodge wheel unit bearings since my set was missing only that 14 but has 2 13mm 1/2" sockets. :lmao:
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Tekton has 12 point sets in shallow or deep. Also they sell individual sockets too.
 
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DWT said:
Something like a pick set I'll spend extra on since it's not an absurd cost. I have a few cheap ($15 and under) sets but I know damned well not to do something ignorant with them. :laughing: They're called seal picks not pry bars. :flipoff2:
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Same.
Bought these, USA made $20.
Also have HF orange ones and some homemade out of old screwdrivers.

www.tekton.com

5-Piece Pick and Hook Set | TEKTON | Made in USA

Set includes straight pick, 45-degree bent pick, 90-degree bent pick, 90-degree hook, and 130-degree hook. PNH90101.
www.tekton.com www.tekton.com
 
Alpine4x4 said:
I've been buying more and more Icon lately. The quality is decent and they do a damn good job of copying what makes Snap-On tools unique. Theres some things they cant replace yet, but I've been happy with my purchases so far. That said they just released some 1/4" universal sockets I picked up, but they're 6pt and the best use for those sockets is 12pt driveline bolts:laughing:
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Absolutely best universals on the market are SnapOn.
Most of the others (Icon-Astro-Sunex) cannot take the angle/load like snappys do.

A good friend runs automotive shop, got to play with SnapOn, had my hands on Icon set - decent overall - but this is one of those situations where I will pay premium for a premium product. Buy once, cry once.
 
DWT said:
12 point sockets are getting kinda scarce these days. I was happy to find whatever parts store I was closest to had 12 point 10mm to replace the starter on a stranded Dodge a while back so that lives in my truck. Need to source a whole set one of these days. I had to buy a whole set last year to get a 14mm 12 point to do Dodge wheel unit bearings since my set was missing only that 14 but has 2 13mm 1/2" sockets. :lmao:
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They are and the damn bolts are used on all sorts of shit. Rod bolts in my Yamaha were 12pt as well. I have a good selection of 1/4" 12pt, but need to add to my 3/8". Have 1/2" covered.
DWT said:
Something like a pick set I'll spend extra on since it's not an absurd cost. I have a few cheap ($15 and under) sets but I know damned well not to do something ignorant with them. :laughing: They're called seal picks not pry bars. :flipoff2:
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I think I might own every pick snappy makes now including the hose picks. Absolutely indispensable, not sure how I lived without them. The HD ones let you really put some ass on em without failing.
Gtrplyr78 said:
Absolutely best universals on the market are SnapOn.
Most of the others (Icon-Astro-Sunex) cannot take the angle/load like snappys do.

A good friend runs automotive shop, got to play with SnapOn, had my hands on Icon set - decent overall - but this is one of those situations where I will pay premium for a premium product. Buy once, cry once.
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The 12pt chrome set I get will be the snappy set. I figured I'd give the Icons a try in this regard as they werent too expensive and 25% off with coupon last weekend. I do have Icon and Sunex impact universals and compared to the snappies I've played with I cant find a reason to spend the money on the snappy.
 
muddyrover said:
ICON Semi-deep for the Semi-professional



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For anyone who's not a few minutes away from a HF, the Carlyle stuff is the same in quality (some of the tools, specifically wrenches, are clearly coming from the same factory). These are almost double the HF price, but if you watch the sales you can get them for close to the same price. IIRC there was one on these last fall for less than $50/set, either metric or SAE. Anytime I'm thinking of an ICON tool I typically check NAPA for a sale. Since I'm typically 20 minutes or less away in any direction from one and the warranty is the same, it's what I typically buy.
Same with Evercraft vs. Pittsburg from HF. Most of the Evercraft stuff comes with warranty too, and the price/quality is basically the same, especially if there's a sale going on (and there is frequently).
ICON makes sense if you are near a HF, but less so if you aren't.
 
muddyrover said:
Went to buy a mini pick set and had a moment of weakness yesterday and bought a set of metric 3/8 drive semi-deep sockets. Been many times over the years where these would have been helpful. Sockets were a slightly used repo, so I couldn’t pass them up at 1/2 price. Looks like only two sockets have ever been on a bolt, maybe once or twice.
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I just abused my gearwrench 1/4" semi deeps yesterday to the point several are junk using them on a pusher bolt as an extension. Time to go bend over and buy a set of snappy, he doesn't care and will warranty pure abuse. I bought the gearwrench 1/4" semi deeps to see how I liked the semi deeps, time to upgrade.

I carry semi deeps in my tool bag at work, 1/4"-9/16" 1/4 drive along with shallow 3/4 and 15/16" 3/8" drive with a 3/8" to 1/4" adapter and a long handle 1/4" snappy flex head ratchet. They work great for things like guards on equipment. I work on all kinds of junk all over the mine, some times taking a pretty decent walk with my tool bag so weight is a concern. They are a great compromise when you are limited on weight and space. I have shallow and deeps in my tool box though some times I'm working 1/2 an hour away from it and have no clue what can of worms will open up at any time.
 
Gtrplyr78 said:
Absolutely best universals on the market are SnapOn.
Most of the others (Icon-Astro-Sunex) cannot take the angle/load like snappys do.

A good friend runs automotive shop, got to play with SnapOn, had my hands on Icon set - decent overall - but this is one of those situations where I will pay premium for a premium product. Buy once, cry once.
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Can confirm. Bought the Snap Off 3/8 impact metric set years ago and have been borderline abusive with them. They have held up perfectly so far. I quit being a Snap On snob years ago, but they are something I wouldn't be without.
 
grumpy356 said:
Snap-On is a CULT.

You will very rarely convince a Cult Member that their outlook is skewed.

People base their entire view of Snap-On on an intangible. TO them, a superior tool can cut down on time and strain. There is absolutely no way to quantify this idea, but they believe.

I can show an example of how a tool 1/10th the cost can do the same job, in the same amount of time, with the same wear and tear on your physical body, and the equipment it is being used on.
Doesn't matter.

I can get out the micrometer and measure every aspect of the tool and show there is no appreciable difference.
Doesn't matter.

YES, they are nice tools. Good chrome. Built to respectable standards. And if you can justify the luxury... cool. But it's a luxury, and by no means makers anyone a better, or faster mechanic. (they do however make many a poorer, financially, mechanic, but ... luxury... )
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Have you ever compared say a gear wrench open end wrench to its snap on or other American made equivalent? A Micrometer certainly isn’t required to see the difference.

Same thing is there with crows feet.

What about a snap on screw extractor compared to a Chinese counterpart? They look awfully close, but try using one and report back.

Good tools certainly don’t make a better mechanic. I don't know how you make a study to determine the time saved using them. I do know that I have personally wasted a lot of times and observed a lot of wasted time with crappy tools though.
 
Bacho said:
Good tools certainly don’t make a better mechanic.
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Yes they do. Good tools won't make you smarter or more mechanically inclined, they make you a better mechanic by not destroying fasteners.
Bacho said:
I don't know how you make a study to determine the time saved using them. I do know that I have personally wasted a lot of times and observed a lot of wasted time with crappy tools though.
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I've broken numerous cheaper swivels when Snapon swivels hold up. I've also broken Mac ½ to ⅜ drive adapters then used the Snapon version to get the bolt out.
 
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Take a picture, email and have a new tool in a week. Above was for that well used 3/8 breaker bar I had mentioned earlier. I noticed yesterday that it has a slight twist in the square drive from doing breaker bar things for the last 15 years. They could have denied this one for sure, but I have never had an issue.

I had HF deny a 3/4 ratchet that I twisted off the square drive first use. Lucky I didn’t hurt myself on that one. Finally broke the bolts loose on my Timberjack fairlead using an induction heater and a 36” Gearwrench 3/4 ratchet. MG 1250 wouldn’t budge it.
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I have had HF warranty tools that weren't even HF tools. I was thinking a torque wrench I bought like 35 years ago was a HF one. I took it in and they gave me a new one, no questions asked. Then after I thought about it more, I remember I bought it from another place.
I have never had an issue with HF warrantying any hand tools that I broke and needed replaced. I have broke very few HF tools over the last 30ish years. From what I can recall, I've had to replace a line wrench (broke and you could clearly see there was poor casting where it broke)...a few adapters...1/2" to 3/8" etc. I don't recall ever breaking a socket, ratchet, wrench, extension, or breaker bar.
 
To be fair, I didn’t lie when they asked me if I put a pipe on it . . Seriously… how much use is a 3/4 drive with a 20” or so handle without a cheater? For reference that 3/8 breaker bar above has taken more torque without breaking.

My wife accidentally returned a broken digital caliper to them once when I actually got it at Runnings. I went in a day or so later and paid for it when I was nearby.

I will say their air hammer viscous fan wrench attachment got me out of a jamb a couple of months ago and I do like their beam cutting attachment for my circular saw. Both are in fact blatant rip offs of other products.
 
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muddyrover said:
Went to buy a mini pick set and had a moment of weakness yesterday and bought a set of metric 3/8 drive semi-deep sockets. Been many times over the years where these would have been helpful. Sockets were a slightly used repo, so I couldn’t pass them up at 1/2 price. Looks like only two sockets have ever been on a bolt, maybe once or twice.
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The mid length 3/8 impact sockets are on my tool cart because they are the ones I use the most.
 
M92PV4U said:
I can jamb the 45° pick clear through my finger then jerk it back out before I even knew what happened :homer:.
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I find that hard to believe, more like your finger bent the pick into a U turn. Poked your paw with a pick riiiiight :laughing::flipoff2:
 
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