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Gtrplyr78 said:
I settled on a Megapro Automotive model for ratcheting/PB Swiss for standard handle.

In addition I have a gamut of sacrificial ones.

Lately I have been checking out Vessel Megadora and Vessel Wood Compos, sort of a want vs a need so I have not pulled the trigger.
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Japanese tools eh? Better than commie cHiNa

This is a cool set I would like to get.

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Rape wagon had this on sale for about 35% off a few weeks ago.
I gotta say, I’ve already used it a half dozen times and I think it was worth it. Like the snap together adapters that lets you use it without 3 hands.
Probably a non-snappy version out there like it, but its hands down the best ball joint tool I’ve ever used.
 
Went to buy a mini pick set and had a moment of weakness yesterday and bought a set of metric 3/8 drive semi-deep sockets. Been many times over the years where these would have been helpful. Sockets were a slightly used repo, so I couldn’t pass them up at 1/2 price. Looks like only two sockets have ever been on a bolt, maybe once or twice.
 
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muddyrover said:
Went to buy a mini pick set and had a moment of weakness yesterday and bought a set of metric 3/8 drive semi-deep sockets. Been many times over the years where these would have been helpful. Sockets were a slightly used repo, so I couldn’t pass them up at 1/2 price. Looks like only two sockets have ever been on a bolt, maybe once or twice.
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those 3/4 depth sockets are fantastic in the right spot. :smokin:
 
Scanners,

xr-nut said:
those 3/4 depth sockets are fantastic in the right spot. :smokin:
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I was wanting one last weekend.


I’ve been looking at scanners. Way too many options. Looking for something pretty compatible up to 2018. Something that can do pretty good sensor learning
 
muddyrover said:
Went to buy a mini pick set and had a moment of weakness yesterday and bought a set of metric 3/8 drive semi-deep sockets. Been many times over the years where these would have been helpful. Sockets were a slightly used repo, so I couldn’t pass them up at 1/2 price. Looks like only two sockets have ever been on a bolt, maybe once or twice.
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Give it a week or so, you'll buy every mid-depth set they make and stop using everything else except on special occasions. Gearwrench makes 'em to, but they have a full depth broach and you can't read the fucking size stamping on them and they suck. This is where Snap-On shines. Expensive...yes, but the amount of time you don't waste dealing with the shortcomings of lesser sockets pays for them in a couple days.
 
Lbhsbz said:
Expensive...yes, but the amount of time you don't waste dealing with the shortcomings of lesser sockets pays for them in a couple days.
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Just like my 30mpg cummings, brah. :lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao:


Srsly though, if you already own narrow and deep and they're both readily accessible (i.e. the shallow isn't buried under a pile of pullers in some drawer and only used when you need it) I doubt you're saving that much time unless there's some specific job you do over and over again that they make faster. Not having to think about which socket to grab probably makes you feel better about using them though. :laughing:


Don't you mostly work on shit that's out of the vehicle? Of all the people who'd care about socket length I didn't figure you'd be one.
 
M92PV4U said:
No. There is a difference. As they say ignorance is bliss.
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If nobody can articulate what the difference is and why it matters it's probably not a difference worth paying measurable amounts of money for.
 
arse_sidewards said:
If nobody can articulate what the difference is and why it matters it's probably not a difference worth paying measurable amounts of money for.
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Better material and tighter tolerance. The depth of the broach hex in the socket is also slightly deeper than a nut, this keeps the nut or bolt from sliding to deep into the socket while you are trying to install it.
 
Lbhsbz said:
Gearwrench makes 'em to, but they have a full depth broach and you can't read the fucking size stamping on them and they suck.
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I had looked at the GW ones a while ago, In addition to the full hex broaching, they are also quite a bit longer and thicker than the Snap-On ones.
 
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M92PV4U said:
Better material and tighter tolerance. The depth of the broach hex in the socket is also slightly deeper than a nut, this keeps the nut or bolt from sliding to deep into the socket while you are trying to install it.
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Ok, so it's just a higher quality shallow socket. :laughing:
 
arse_sidewards said:
Ok, so it's just a higher quality shallow socket. :laughing:
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That will work on a nut with 1/2”of bolt threads sticking through it…. In a spot where a deep won’t fit.

Works like not fully snapping your short socket on the ratchet and hoping for the best. Come on don’t lie… we’re all guilty of this.
 
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muddyrover said:
That will work on a nut with 1/2”of bolt threads sticking through it…. In a spot where a deep won’t fit.
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Mine do. :confused:

Maybe they lose a little engagement in some situations or maybe it's only 15/32 but whatever. They're not quite as deep as the mid length stuff everyone is fawning over but I've basically never had issues. In small sizes where the bolt will pass through into the square section and you can just engage the ratchet or whatever a little less I think it basically doesn't matter.



Wades_76_cj7 said:
the irony of one of the cheapest motherfuckers on the board in this thread bitching about the rapey snap on prices is not lost on us.
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I'm being logically consistent.

Don't make me use the B word. :flipoff2:
 
muddyrover said:
That will work on a nut with 1/2”of bolt threads sticking through it…. In a spot where a deep won’t fit.

Works like not fully snapping your short socket on the ratchet and hoping for the best. Come on don’t lie… we’re all guilty of this.
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I have a mix of mid length sockets and they're solid gold when needed. When fasteners are in a shitty spot and the right combination of socket depth and extension is the only way to get them it's the only way to fly. It's ok that some people don't understand that, ignorance and pure obtuseness rules the world these days.
 
DWT said:
I have a mix of mid length sockets and they're solid gold when needed. When fasteners are in a shitty spot and the right combination of socket depth and extension is the only way to get them it's the only way to fly. It's ok that some people don't understand that, ignorance and pure obtuseness rules the world these days.
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I completely understand the premise. I question the value.

I'm sure if you have them you use them but I'm not convinced the money isn't better spent on other shit.
 
arse_sidewards said:
I completely understand the premise. I question the value.

I'm sure if you have them you use them but I'm not convinced the money isn't better spent on other shit.
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we get it. you work in a cubicle shit talking IBB all day. If the guy that makes his living with his tools want to buy SO tools then why do you care? YOU don't see the value in it, and that is fine for you.
 
Snap-On is a CULT.

You will very rarely convince a Cult Member that their outlook is skewed.

People base their entire view of Snap-On on an intangible. TO them, a superior tool can cut down on time and strain. There is absolutely no way to quantify this idea, but they believe.

I can show an example of how a tool 1/10th the cost can do the same job, in the same amount of time, with the same wear and tear on your physical body, and the equipment it is being used on.
Doesn't matter.

I can get out the micrometer and measure every aspect of the tool and show there is no appreciable difference.
Doesn't matter.

YES, they are nice tools. Good chrome. Built to respectable standards. And if you can justify the luxury... cool. But it's a luxury, and by no means makers anyone a better, or faster mechanic. (they do however make many a poorer, financially, mechanic, but ... luxury... )
 
grumpy356 said:
and by no means makers anyone a better, or faster mechanic.
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I can see it in some very specific cases it can make you money. Like for the longest time the BJP1 was the only press that could knock out SD shit without fucking around. (It also cost a fuckton back then and you'd still need to do them at a reasonable frequency to justify the purchase, more of a shop tool than a personal tool IMO.)

this is not one of those cases IMO.
 
arse_sidewards said:
I completely understand the premise. I question the value.

I'm sure if you have them you use them but I'm not convinced the money isn't better spent on other shit.
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Then don’t worry about it and move on with all your cHiNa made tools that satisfies your needs. There’s a harbor freight thread on here that’s calling your name, go over there.
 
grumpy356 said:
Snap-On is a CULT.

You will very rarely convince a Cult Member that their outlook is skewed.

People base their entire view of Snap-On on an intangible. TO them, a superior tool can cut down on time and strain. There is absolutely no way to quantify this idea, but they believe.

I can show an example of how a tool 1/10th the cost can do the same job, in the same amount of time, with the same wear and tear on your physical body, and the equipment it is being used on.
Doesn't matter.

I can get out the micrometer and measure every aspect of the tool and show there is no appreciable difference.
Doesn't matter.

YES, they are nice tools. Good chrome. Built to respectable standards. And if you can justify the luxury... cool. But it's a luxury, and by no means makers anyone a better, or faster mechanic. (they do however make many a poorer, financially, mechanic, but ... luxury... )
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So.. The Apple of tools. Got it.
 
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grumpy356 said:
Snap-On is a CULT.

You will very rarely convince a Cult Member that their outlook is skewed.

People base their entire view of Snap-On on an intangible. TO them, a superior tool can cut down on time and strain. There is absolutely no way to quantify this idea, but they believe.

I can show an example of how a tool 1/10th the cost can do the same job, in the same amount of time, with the same wear and tear on your physical body, and the equipment it is being used on.
Doesn't matter.

I can get out the micrometer and measure every aspect of the tool and show there is no appreciable difference.
Doesn't matter.

YES, they are nice tools. Good chrome. Built to respectable standards. And if you can justify the luxury... cool. But it's a luxury, and by no means makers anyone a better, or faster mechanic. (they do however make many a poorer, financially, mechanic, but ... luxury... )
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I’m not 100% snap on tool guy but I do own a large percentage of snap on tools. I have my cheaper line of tools in my basement shop and in my to go boxes. In my main shop is where I keep my snap on tools at.

Most of them were purchased when I turned wrenches for a living and it was obvious the difference in quality then. I own some Mac and a few Matco tools too from back then. Mac and snap on are pretty equal back then and I don’t think anything about Matco as junk today. When they wouldn’t stand behind their pos tool box falling apart on my in a years timeframe, I stopped buying anything matco forever and sold or traded off most of the rest I owned.

I still buy snap on tools today but through eBay or swap meets. No truck account for some years now. I love snap on tools and are top quality to me and always will be. I don’t care if other people feel different about that and I don’t care what you buy because you think snap on is too expensive to own. Then don’t and buy something else if it satisfies your needs.
 
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One thing with snap-on is it’s pretty close to money in the bank.

Ratchets, Sockets and Combination wrenches bought 10 to 20 years ago can be sold on eBay for nearly what you paid for them as long as they were taken care of.


Was the Semi-deep set I bought worth $311 list? Not in my opinion.

Was it worth the $130 I paid? Absolutely, if nothing more than for the reason I stated above.
 
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muddyrover said:
ICON Semi-deep for the Semi-professional



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Sent from my IPhone in my cubicle.
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Damn I'll go pick those sets up today, they'll replace my mid depth mishmash from strap-on, s&k, craftsman, performance tool and Stanley I've been using for years.
muddyrover said:
One thing with snap-on is it’s pretty close to money in the bank.

Ratchets, Sockets and Combination wrenches bought 10 to 20 years ago can be sold on eBay for nearly what you paid for them as long as they were taken care of.


Was the Semi-deep set I bought worth $311 list? Not in my opinion.

Was it worth the $130 I paid? Absolutely, if nothing more than for the reason I stated above.
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So you value your ol lady like that too? Personally I beat the brakes off everything I've got with no regard for the next guy. I'll have my tools until I'm dead, I ain't selling shit because a man without tools may as well be dead anyway.
 
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