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Panzers: I break rocks thread

Rustymofo said:
Just curious how long it typically takes you, after a blast, to determine your approximate return from the $60k worth of explosions?

This thread is awesome man!
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This stuff I won’t start selling until next may. I’ll have to stick at least another $60,000 in it to turn it into something I can sell. Usually the shot material get processed into some kind of clear stone 3”, 6”, 1.5” or .75”. That is usually made for a specific job and will go sold pretty much after it’s made. The fines gets turned into road gravel and it just piles up until needed.

I try to have the clear stones cover the blasting the labor, fuel and crushing of the rock. The gravel when sold is my cut. Those guys who posted the 24$ a ton stone are covering costs in like 15-20% of the blast lol.

I have been trying to have piles of everything in the yard but it sells as soon as I make it. Been a really good year.

This shit was my Hail Mary. We had a good year so I figured I would roll the dice and spend money on this black shit. If I play my cards right I should get between 10 and 40 a ton for the black stone. It will take a few years to sell but whatever. Stone doesn’t go bad in a pile.
 
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ThePanzerFuhrer said:
Stone doesn’t go bad in a pile.
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Once it's gravel, does that black stuff oxidize and turn grey, or have you not had fresh stuff around long enought to know?

As for the 486 comment about air in the rock after blasting...I was once told for underground mining, that the freshly blasted muck would take about 1.5 times the volume to store after blast. No idea how accurate that is.
 
Muckin_Slusher said:
Once it's gravel, does that black stuff oxidize and turn grey, or have you not had fresh stuff around long enought to know?

As for the 486 comment about air in the rock after blasting...I was once told for underground mining, that the freshly blasted muck would take about 1.5 times the volume to store after blast. No idea how accurate that is.
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It stays black. I made a pile for the old timer 5-6 years ago of the black stone. It’s still black to today.

The blasters charge me for 2.25tons a cubic yard of stone in the ground. It weighs 1.4-1.6 tons a yard in road gravel form.
 
Dad is plugging away at the storage shed. He got the drains all done and started pulling gravel from the edges. Sounds like Friday is a all day rain day. So he’ll get it all shaped up then.

Concrete guy is comming next week to get it poured. Week after the spray foam guy will have at it. We’ll see how it all turns out .

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aczlan said:
Should be nice to be able to get a small portion trucks/equipment inside and not have to clear them off in the morning during the winter.

Aaron Z
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Correction :lmao:. Figuring I’ll get 5 dump trucks 2 semis maybe 3 that little dozer and a loader or 2.

Will be awesome that everything will start up with no issues. My dad always picks the coldest day/days of the year to do some stupid hauling.
 
[486] said:
I wish I had a large section of my yard that didn't grow shit
alas, all of it grows everything real well
fucking cow shit two feet deep everywhere
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I hate plant growth. My wash plant of getting overrun with plant life. I need to agent orange that mf’er.
 
ThePanzerFuhrer said:
Correction :lmao:. Figuring I’ll get 5 dump trucks 2 semis maybe 3 that little dozer and a loader or 2.

Will be awesome that everything will start up with no issues. My dad always picks the coldest day/days of the year to do some stupid hauling.
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I should have been clearer, I meant some, I knew it wasn't big enough for all of it.
How big of a fan are you going to put at the end away from the door to pull the exhaust out when you start things up?

Aaron Z
 
ThePanzerFuhrer said:
I hate plant growth. My wash plant of getting overrun with plant life. I need to agent orange that mf’er.
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My driveway going up the the house garage that doesn't get driven on often has as much grass as the lawn. Item on top of hard packed clay, seems ideal lol.
 
Dethmachinefab said:
My driveway going up the the house garage that doesn't get driven on often has as much grass as the lawn. Item on top of hard packed clay, seems ideal lol.
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I've got a few old paths that are river rock tossed atop dirt (a hundred years ago)

The autismo in me wants to make a larboc trommel and wash the stone to re-use it
the realist in me scrapes it aside and dumps on new clay/gravel at 200 bucks a dump truck load
 
aczlan said:
I should have been clearer, I meant some, I knew it wasn't big enough for all of it.
How big of a fan are you going to put at the end away from the door to pull the exhaust out when you start things up?

Aaron Z
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Not too worried about smoke. The 2 trucks that will get used everyday are the def kind and they don’t make smoke. Everything else will get started and moved outside to warm up. The shops we have now you cannot tell when a truck is started.

I will have to put a compressor in that building to charge the air in the trucks so they can get pulled out right away.
 
Got a price on a 16x16 insulated garage door. 10950 installed with opener and no windows. Went out and measured tonight and the fucker is 20’ wide:lmao::homer:.

Garage doors are freaking expensive. At that price I have have close to $150,000 in garage doors in all my buildings wtf.
 
[486] said:
why would you do this to yourself?
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I don’t know. My dad buys them. I would rather not but the amount we use them you almost have to buy new ones ever couple years.

My 2007 trucks have close to a million miles on each of them. They are getting hard to keep them together.
 
ThePanzerFuhrer said:
I don’t know. My dad buys them. I would rather not but the amount we use them you almost have to buy new ones ever couple years.

My 2007 trucks have close to a million miles on each of them. They are getting hard to keep them together.
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buy gliders and dump reman s60 12.7s in them?
 
ThePanzerFuhrer said:
Not too worried about smoke. The 2 trucks that will get used everyday are the def kind and they don’t make smoke. Everything else will get started and moved outside to warm up. The shops we have now you cannot tell when a truck is started.

I will have to put a compressor in that building to charge the air in the trucks so they can get pulled out right away.
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Run an airline with the power run to the main shop and feed a tank in the new building?
I assume that you would have a hose at each outlet to connect to each truck?

Aaron Z
 
[486] said:
buy gliders and dump reman s60 12.7s in them?
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Something is up with the gliders. I think the epa is really clamping down on them.

I would love to take the sterlings I have a transfer engine trans rearends into a glider.

They are series 60’s 8ll and 46k walking beam trucks. It’s the wiring harnesses cab lights ect that is going to hell.
 
aczlan said:
Run an airline with the power run to the main shop and feed a tank in the new building?
I assume that you would have a hose at each outlet to connect to each truck?

Aaron Z
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Shop next door doesn’t have air except for a air compressor on wheels. That’s all the old timer ever used. :homer:

It has a 100 amp service in there so I could hang a stand up compressor in a corner just for the trucks.
 
Is that a case 450? How are they? Ive been eyeing them lately just to have around. Looks like 12k ish starting for a decent one. Could my old 7.3 6spd drag it around occasionally?
 
ThePanzerFuhrer said:
Something is up with the gliders. I think the epa is really clamping down on them.

I would love to take the sterlings I have a transfer engine trans rearends into a glider.

They are series 60’s 8ll and 46k walking beam trucks. It’s the wiring harnesses cab lights ect that is going to hell.
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shitty,
maybe put a guy on just rewiring and replumbing the entire works one of these winters
gotta imagine that cab harnesses should be available still
then on the lights... they always gotta be redone anyways, fucking trailer wiring scotchlocks for power and tek screws for grounds trash
 
ThePanzerFuhrer said:
Shop next door doesn’t have air except for a air compressor on wheels. That’s all the old timer ever used. :homer:

It has a 100 amp service in there so I could hang a stand up compressor in a corner just for the trucks.
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Ah, I didn't realize that there wasn't a big compressor in the "new to you shop"

2big bronco said:
Is that a case 450? How are they? Ive been eyeing them lately just to have around. Looks like 12k ish starting for a decent one. Could my old 7.3 6spd drag it around occasionally?
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Looks like it should weigh 10-12k so heavy, but doable with the right trailer.

Aaron Z
 
2big bronco said:
Is that a case 450? How are they? Ive been eyeing them lately just to have around. Looks like 12k ish starting for a decent one. Could my old 7.3 6spd drag it around occasionally?
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It’s a 450c

One of the best dozers ever made imo. My dad bought that dozer brand new in the 80’s. He will never sell it. It turns via a 2 speed transmission high and low for each track so it is fully powered when turning. You do not use the brakes at all. It also is super short so the average person me included will have a fuck of a time getting shit flat. You’ll get good at making whoops.

It has a 4bt in it for power and is backwards compared to most dozers nowadays in that it has a accelerator pedal vs a decelerator pedal.

I think it weighs like 12,000 ish. So a pickup wouldn’t have a issue hauling it around.


I’ll take a picture after my dads done shaping the garage. It will look perfect. The one thing I cannot tease him about being better than him is his dozing skills. :lmao:

I had to laugh talking to a equipment salesman at a auction a few weeks back. He told me a funny story about my dad. 15 years back the salesman was having a new house built. My dad was the excavator for the project. The salesman stopped by the local landscaper to see if he would put the yard in.

The landscaper asked who was doing the dirt work and he replied my dad. The landscaper laughed and said you don’t need me. All you need to do is seed and mulch when my dad leaves. The salesman said the landscaper was not lying the yard was absolutely perfect when he was done. He was the best dozerman he had ever seen. All done with that 450c. :lmao:

Now we have a few 850’s he uses and the 450 is in the reserves.
 
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ThePanzerFuhrer said:
Got to spend 2 hrs on the surestrike today. Sucker rows through the boulders pretty good.
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I wanna see you lay that thing on it's side and use it to punt something :laughing:

Surely you have some big old chunk of scrap lying around that's heavy enough the hammer won't get hurt doing that.

ThePanzerFuhrer said:
Will be awesome that everything will start up with no issues. My dad always picks the coldest day/days of the year to do some stupid hauling.
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Always haul shit in bad weather. The worse the weather the higher the bar for the fucking vultures to get out and writhe you a ticket. :laughing:

[486] said:
shitty,
maybe put a guy on just rewiring and replumbing the entire works one of these winters
gotta imagine that cab harnesses should be available still
then on the lights... they always gotta be redone anyways, fucking trailer wiring scotchlocks for power and tek screws for grounds trash
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Dig a trench between all the buildings and run an access tunnel and hang whatever infrastructure you want on the walls. :laughing:

I bet he could get some 8ft diameter culvert for cheap if he asked the right customers. I think he's young enough it might actually pay off over the years. MHSA would probably take issue with it though.
 
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arse_sidewards said:
I wanna see you lay that thing on it's side and use it to punt something :laughing:

Surely you have some big old chunk of scrap lying around that's heavy enough the hammer won't get hurt doing that.
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Hammer don’t work sideways. Needs gravity :lmao: It’s a falling weight.
 
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