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Panzers: I break rocks thread

SLOWPOKE693 said:
Over the course of a year or two I watched them level Ranger Hill on I20 with those machines. Until then I had never seen anything like that and thought it was slick as shit. The first few times I saw them I was thinking they were road eaters and sombody figured out a new way to use it. Once I saw one semi up close I could tell they were completely different animals. Technology is pretty cool sometimes.
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Those things world make it like 2 passes around here before everything would be destroyed. The article states 6-10,000 psi stone. Around here everything is 20,000psi and up. There is a jade deposit on the other end of the county that’s upwards of 40,000 psi.

When you call the factory and ask them if you can crush it they say get a different pit :homer:
 
ThePanzerFuhrer said:
Those things world make it like 2 passes around here before everything would be destroyed. The article states 6-10,000 psi stone. Around here everything is 20,000psi and up. There is a jade deposit on the other end of the county that’s upwards of 40,000 psi.

When you call the factory and ask them if you can crush it they say get a different pit :homer:
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We gots limestone by the bucket!
Up in Oklahoma and Arkansas they have the hard shit. It actually sucks to work on much more than a limestone pit or sand pit, it's like sharp sand.
Yall are probably tough as shit for working in those conditions all your life.
 
CarterKraft said:
We gots limestone by the bucket!
Up in Oklahoma and Arkansas they have the hard shit. It actually sucks to work on much more than a limestone pit or sand pit, it's like sharp sand.
Yall are probably tough as shit for working in those conditions all your life.
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Lol I burnt out a excavator bucket in about 50,000 ton of digging. It’s Stupid how hard and abrasive the rock is. A set of teeth hardly makes 2 weeks on that bucket. I burnt it out on purpose so it forces me to cut the lip off and put a new one on. Was sick of buying $225x6 teeth every 2 weeks.

Gonna put the old cat j series teeth on it. The teeth are the same weight as the esco ultra lock but only cost $80 a tooth. $480 for a set Vs 1350 a set to get the same life out of them.

I got the stupid idea to have the drillers come and take a whack at the black vein in the pit. This is hard as fuck stone but it’s all black. Will make some beautiful decorative rock. I’ll have to get $40 a ton for it to make it worth the trouble :lmao:.
 
ThePanzerFuhrer said:
Those things world make it like 2 passes around here before everything would be destroyed. The article states 6-10,000 psi stone. Around here everything is 20,000psi and up. There is a jade deposit on the other end of the county that’s upwards of 40,000 psi.

When you call the factory and ask them if you can crush it they say get a different pit :homer:
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Most texans have no clue what "real" hard rock is. The stuff they consider hard rock here can be smashed to bits with one swing of a mini sledge. :laughing:
 
SLOWPOKE693 said:
Most texans have no clue what "real" hard rock is. The stuff they consider hard rock here can be smashed to bits with one swing of a mini sledge. :laughing:
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No shit. I have never crushed a soft rock like that in my life. I hear these stories of limestone guys getting like 2-3 years on a cone liner and they are doing million tons a year. The fuckers forget how to change them. :lmao:
 
RPS1030 said:
Yup, got something around 1 million tons across a set of bars on the base plant primary crusher I worked on near San Antonio.
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Around these parts you drop a big blue one in a impactor it automagically takes the bars off the rotor for you:lmao:.

You have to be really careful doing recycle up here. People will toss those nuggets in the pile with the concrete. Not good when the magnet starts tossing pieces of the blow bar on the ground.

My competition has a nicer little kpi/jci tracked closed circuit impact plant. They get maybe 20,000 ton on a set of bars doing recycle up here.
 
RPS1030 said:
It partially explains the competition around there. Every land owner/rancher that wants to, runs their own little crushing spread. Race to the bottom on price.

Go to the SE and it’s nothing but Vulcan or Martin.
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I bet up here once the little guys like me finally give up the big guys swoop in and buy the pits up.

It doesn’t take too much effort to crush that soft stuff. We always joke than when we wear out our equipment up here it goes to live another 10-20 years in a limestone pit down south.
 
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Want to talk hard and abrasive...up to 3 sets a day on the dozers. Had 2 10's and a 9 full time ripping and stacking for the hungry 1200...nick named Pac-Man and a 992 loader.

Edit, we were hauling the cobble to the crusher.
 
ThePanzerFuhrer said:
Around these parts you drop a big blue one in a impactor it automagically takes the bars off the rotor for you:lmao:.

You have to be really careful doing recycle up here. People will toss those nuggets in the pile with the concrete. Not good when the magnet starts tossing pieces of the blow bar on the ground.

My competition has a nicer little kpi/jci tracked closed circuit impact plant. They get maybe 20,000 ton on a set of bars doing recycle up here.
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It was good our operator was watching. A chunk of the rotor come off 1 day. Bars actually stayed fortunately, but he saw a chunk of steel heading up the belt and hit stop.
ThePanzerFuhrer said:
I bet up here once the little guys like me finally give up the big guys swoop in and buy the pits up.
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That’s the history of Vulcan. Started with brothers in Birmingham. Each state they moved into from AL was buying out another family. GA, TN, SC, NC.
 
Captain Call said:
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Want to talk hard and abrasive...up to 3 sets a day on the dozers. Had 2 10's and a 9 full time ripping and stacking for the hungry 1200...nick named Pac-Man and a 992 loader.

Edit, we were hauling the cobble to the crusher.
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Your d10 would make it about 0” in the ground up here:lmao:

That looks like a cobble hard pan type deal. Working on a pit like that right now. I need a 100,000 hoe to dig into the face so my 988 sized loader can get a bucket. Not a ideal situation lol.
 
ThePanzerFuhrer said:
Your d10 would make it about 0” in the ground up here:lmao:

That looks like a cobble hard pan type deal. Working on a pit like that right now. I need a 100,000 hoe to dig into the face some my 988 sized loader can get a bucket. Not a ideal situation lol.
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I don't know....maybe I could get an inch....errrr....tenth or 2. :flipoff2:

Blue granite is where I used to play and I've been known to get through quite a bit.
 
ThePanzerFuhrer said:
RPS1030 what do you guys get for a 3/4” dense base gravel down there?
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I left 10 years ago, so old data.

I think we ran about 1-1/4 or 1-1/2 minus on “state grade base”. Somewhere in the $6-7 range.

Clean Stone was around $10. Man Sand I’d say we got beat up on and only that similar $10. But we could also make 500+ tph of sand total.

I feel like I’ve said this line before, but there were locations in NC and GA with margins bigger than that while doing it in Granite.
 
I'll throw this in here for those curious about Wisconsin rocks. The northern tip is crossed by the Midcontinent Rift, with flows of volcanic rock (basalt). The north-central had the sedimentary layers scraped off by glaciers, down to the igneous and metamorphic stone(granite). The remainder is sediment of a shallow sea. The tan is sandstone (round quartz grains mined for frac sand), the light blue-green are layers of shale and dolomite. The grey in the east is the Niagara Escarpment, a capstone of harder dolomite. South-west is the driftless area, untouched by the glaciers, so the ridges are dolomite/shale and the valleys sandstone.
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Quick & Dirty said:
I'll throw this in here for those curious about Wisconsin rocks. The northern tip is crossed by the Midcontinent Rift, with flows of volcanic rock (basalt). The north-central had the sedimentary layers scraped off by glaciers, down to the igneous and metamorphic stone(granite). The remainder is sediment of a shallow sea. The tan is sandstone (round quartz grains mined for frac sand), the light blue-green are layers of shale and dolomite. The grey in the east is the Niagara Escarpment, a capstone of harder dolomite. South-west is the driftless area, untouched by the glaciers, so the ridges are dolomite/shale and the valleys sandstone.
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I have that poster hanging up in the office. My quarries are in the wolf river granite.


Wi is pretty awesome for the crazy geological rock formations.

I’m my county there is 10-15 different types of rock being mined. Also in the county where the blue dots are is the reef deposit. This deposit has about 119,000 oz of gold in it.

Red dots are the Crandon deposit. This one is the mother load. To bad the Indians shut it down forever. The Crandon ore body is 67 million tons. It contains 1.2 million oz of gold and like 200,000 tons of copper along with zinc, silver and other metallics.

I love learning about this shit. I need to find my own ore body someday lol.



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Gotta get you some mountains to play around. Around here you can go less than an hour in any direction and massively change your geology. One of my little joys is bringing Midwesterners out and showing them vertical geology. I will admit that it does make the rock break easier than what you deal with (at least until you get deep). It also means you find an insane amount of random minerals in close proximity.
 
You mentioned getting $40/ton on decorative. I pay almost that for 3/4 crushed :homer: (pretty sure it's jumped up like 25% since last time I got a load delivered, go figure)

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budget76 said:
You mentioned getting $40/ton on decorative. I pay almost that for 3/4 crushed :homer: (pretty sure it's jumped up like 25% since last time I got a load delivered, go figure)

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Jesus I wish I could get that:homer:. I get 11 a ton for my 3/4” clear.
 
Looks like a sales yard, so it’s got some transport cost in there already. Depends on how far away the quarry actually is.
 
ThePanzerFuhrer said:
Jesus I wish I could get that:homer:. I get 11 a ton for my 3/4” clear.
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last 3/4" clean rock I got from the local quarry for the inlaws retaining wall I paid right under $20/ton with tax and that was me hauling it. 1.5" road base was about $14.50 ton
 
Wades_76_cj7 said:
last 3/4" clean rock I got from the local quarry for the inlaws retaining wall I paid right under $20/ton with tax and that was me hauling it. 1.5" road base was about $14.50 ton
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Fawk! I think south of KC that's a couple $ under hauled price. What quarry?
 
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