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Panzers: I break rocks thread

Levigarrett76 said:
That's just really weird seeing white guys running hose/concrete rake/powerscreed..
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lol all the concrete crews are white up here. There is a huge concrete guy in town who travels the country doing the big pours. I’m sure he gets those jobs because everyone speaks English and busts ass to get the job done. They do the 1000+ yard flat work jobs.
 
Levigarrett76 said:
Ya they do, they just do the mexican permabulk and bring a bucket of KFC to the pour.
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Sceep said:
Brown guys don't fair well in cold weather. :laughing:
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There might be something to this.
All of the outside stuff ive hired out have been white guys. The guys that did all my concrete work in the last year or so have been young white dudes. All of the inside stuff however have been Older brown guys. Both groups however worked their absolute asses off so.
 
Panz everything going well with your operation? Haven't seen any updates to this thread.
I was hauling some 4-9" yesterday to dump in a washout in the pasture to control erosion yesterday and made me think of you.
 
Wades_76_cj7 said:
Panz everything going well with your operation? Haven't seen any updates to this thread.
I was hauling some 4-9" yesterday to dump in a washout in the pasture to control erosion yesterday and made me think of you.
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Been a crazy lately. Just doing my best to keep the train on the track. Got some shit in the works that will be a game changer for me.

Actually I’m laying in bed listening to all the truck and loader traffic rolling right past my house trying to take a nap from running a solo all nighter on my washplant.

We ran out of wash stone and my plant was down for two days waiting for parts. So I said fuckit and ran it by myself last night. Ran from 8pm until 6:30am. Was only able to keep it going 75% by myself but got a lot of material ran through. My guys were like wtf but were happy because now there is a cushion.

One thing is I ordered 2 kiosks from aws. Those should be here in the next month or two. With these it should cut my bookwork down to less than half, that is if I can teach the truck drivers how to use them.

The big concrete guy who buys sand and stone from me have them in their pits allready so their fleet of 60+ trucks knows how to use them. I allready got their badge numbers to be able to reuse the same ones on my system. Gonna cost me 50k for these but should be worth it in the end. This should get rid of most of the lost loads by people not turning in scale tickets ect.


Got half the back of one shop poured with concrete! This is where we do our pressure washing and it was always a mud pit. 55yds of concrete in this pour. Another 50 or so to get the rest of it done infront of my salt shed. I had blacktop infront of the salt shed but it failed after 15years because of the salt. The ground never froze there so it turned the ground soft in the winter and thus killed the blacktop.

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Dad working his magic on the dozer. He has to be in the top 10 guys in the country, in seat of your pants dozer operator skills. He has got a 3way slope cut for this pad and will be within a 1” or 2” after he is done without a track mark in it:smokin:
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That’s the one thing I cannot talk shit about to my dad is his dozer skill. I also think was because he didn’t like to shovel and is a extreme perfectionist:lmao:

This weeks crazy train. Jaw screen cone screen cone screen:lmao:. Not the most efficient setup but can really bang through the hard rock. Making a road gravel, 3/4” clear stone and man sand in one pass at 3-400 ton per hour.

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Also got a call from the sandvik guys, they need someone to test out a brand new jaw plant this winter. First one of this design and will let me have it all winter to get the bugs found:smokin:. I’ll make sure I have a 60,000t of hard stuff ready to put it through its paces.


Well I should get some work productive done:homer:.
 
Wades_76_cj7 said:
That is pretty awesome that the Sandvik guys respect your opinion enough to let you have one of their crushers for the winter to put 1000 hours on it then give them your suggestions on what to change. :beer:
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Honestly new stuff is kinda a pain. It needs to have 4-5 winters under its belt to get the shit dialed in so it flat out works. That way you put all the access doors in, make conveyors roll both directions, figure out how the floater rocks get in the tail pulleys ect.

I’m kinda excited this is a big jaw. My jaws are 30x42 in size. This guy is supposed to be 30x55. First number is the size of stone it can break second number is width. Width is where you get your production from.

This however is a fully electric jaw so we will see how that goes. My jaws have diesel engines and a clutch so you can do some dodgy shit when you get a stuck. I can rock the jaw with some good timing clutch work, decrease the speed to an idle so it will grab a rock ect. Stuff you cannot do with an electric, so I’m sure I’m gonna get an education.
 
How much will that crusher plant that you are going to demo for them cost? Maybe they put you on the payroll as a consultant to compensate you for your trouble? Or is the free use of it all winter the compensation enough?
 
Wades_76_cj7 said:
How much will that crusher plant that you are going to demo for them cost? Maybe they put you on the payroll as a consultant to compensate you for your trouble? Or is the free use of it all winter the compensation enough?
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Unsure of the cost, but if I had to guess $8-900,000 maybe a bit more. I just need to be a good tester, they can bring me all the new stuff to figure out what’s wrong. :lmao:. Not many engineers like me in the world. Technically I don’t think I can even call myself an engineer, never actually had a real engineering job, just got the diploma.

These other guys are all smarter than me and get a good high paying job instead of rolling around in the mud and muck every day of the week.
 
ThePanzerFuhrer said:
Unsure of the cost, but if I had to guess $8-900,000 maybe a bit more. I just need to be a good tester, they can bring me all the new stuff to figure out what’s wrong. :lmao:. Not many engineers like me in the world. Technically I don’t think I can even call myself an engineer, never actually had a real engineering job, just got the diploma.

These other guys are all smarter than me and get a good high paying job instead of rolling around in the mud and muck every day of the week.
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As a Mechanical engineer by degree, you're job looks 100x more fun and fulfilling than mine. Take that for what it's worth :homer:
 
Wades_76_cj7 said:
The 4-9" "gravel" that I got yesterday was $25 a ton. that was picked up at the quarry and hauling it myself. :eek:
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Thats not too bad in price. I get $16/ton for the 6” clear stone. That bigger stuff is a pain to make and deal with.

ExWrench said:
FYI, road base is $78/yd. for 10 yds. delivered from my local landscape material supply :eek:
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Never buy gravel from a landscape supply place. Always buy gravel from the guy making the gravel. Landscape supply places buy my $15/ton stone haul it to their place and charge $45/ton for it :lmao:. No I do not want to deal with their problems I’ll stick to wholesaling it .
 
Clemson13 said:
As a Mechanical engineer by degree, you're job looks 100x more fun and fulfilling than mine. Take that for what it's worth :homer:
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I agree. I wish my job had more hands on stuff. I miss machining and fabbing my own parts for my projects. Staring at a computer screen and going to meetings gets old.
 
ThePanzerFuhrer said:
Honestly new stuff is kinda a pain. It needs to have 4-5 winters under its belt to get the shit dialed in so it flat out works. That way you put all the access doors in, make conveyors roll both directions, figure out how the floater rocks get in the tail pulleys ect.

I’m kinda excited this is a big jaw. My jaws are 30x42 in size. This guy is supposed to be 30x55. First number is the size of stone it can break second number is width. Width is where you get your production from.

This however is a fully electric jaw so we will see how that goes. My jaws have diesel engines and a clutch so you can do some dodgy shit when you get a stuck. I can rock the jaw with some good timing clutch work, decrease the speed to an idle so it will grab a rock ect. Stuff you cannot do with an electric, so I’m sure I’m gonna get an education.
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I'm curious to hear how that goes with a jaw. Our impact crusher is electric and one of our sister plants has the same crusher but diesel and we get the same to better tonnage crushing to 3"- as they get at 5"- with on paper the same amount of horsepower. Just something awesome about all the torque all the time.
 
speed bump said:
I'm curious to hear how that goes with a jaw. Our impact crusher is electric and one of our sister plants has the same crusher but diesel and we get the same to better tonnage crushing to 3"- as they get at 5"- with on paper the same amount of horsepower. Just something awesome about all the torque all the time.
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Yeah efficiency wise electric wins. You get a stuck and want to rock the jaw electric is a no go.

One of my cones are diesel driven. It needs to have a 425 hp diesel to do the job of a 300hp electric. Down sides are you do not know how much power the cone is using at any given time. Only indicator is the exhaust. Full flap tilt your ok, full flap tilt and a 20’ column of black smoke you need to go do some investigating immediately because you don’t have much time before you slip a belt, burn a clutch or snub the bitch off. :lmao:
 
Steve300xcw said:
Near everytime I saw smoke it was already to late:laughing:
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Oh no the 3406 and 3412 will fight for a good amount of time before shit goes down. It seems like the n14’s give up way sooner than the cats do.

As long as the belts are tight and the pulley is sharp it will roll coal for a few minutes. Just did it last week when one of the guys dumped 8 yds of 1” clear stone into the plant when we were making 3/4” way to much way to fast. Fucker tractor pulled its way out, took a good 2 mins. :smokin:

Even the excavator operator seen the smoke and he was sitting in the bottom of the hole with no view of the crusher:lmao:
 
Question time for speed bump or other mine guys.

What’s the secret to keeping a pump packing working.

It seems like I’m forever changing them on my slurry pump. I think there are 5 of these in there at a time. I do have a clear water port I add water too to keep the sand away from the packing. Maybe my added water is too low of pressure?

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The black packing seemed to work the best. My stupid BIl bought on of those electric truck bugging things from a mine up north. Had multiple spools of packing on it that came
With. Just about got it all used up now.
 
ThePanzerFuhrer said:
This however is a fully electric jaw so we will see how that goes. My jaws have diesel engines and a clutch so you can do some dodgy shit when you get a stuck. I can rock the jaw with some good timing clutch work, decrease the speed to an idle so it will grab a rock ect. Stuff you cannot do with an electric, so I’m sure I’m gonna get an education.
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imagine that big of a motor wouldn't have a drive on it but instead just a simple soft-start?
If it's got a vfd, jog and reverse might just be a bit of programming away
 
[486] said:
imagine that big of a motor wouldn't have a drive on it but instead just a simple soft-start?
If it's got a vfd, jog and reverse might just be a bit of programming away
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Yeah typically they have a soft start and a full load contactor to slam in once it’s running. When I start my 400hp cone it buries the 1500 amp gauge for a couple seconds.

Not sure a vfd could rock a jaw. Possibly with a way oversize one. Would be pretty hard to get the timing right. I got the carny manual clutch engagement without blowing up the clutch down to a science lol. Doesn’t take much to burn a clutch up then you are spending the next day putting new fiber plates in.
 
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