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Libertarians- “keep getting your 3% every four years”

The sad reality is that you basically have to be a world class crook to even be in the running for high level political positions.
naw... just have to be approved by the insiders...


Said it before and will again... Since 2015, this has all been about making an example of 45 to keep other outsiders from considering a run.
 
I do think the number of die-hard Trumpers here have declined. Sure they'll still vote for him, as is their right, but they now have 4 years of in office performance to regulate their opinion, vs. all the rhetoric of the 2016 campaign season, and the #neverhillary motivation. Although the blind hate for libs is still plenty strong. We have to observe our world with a critical eye, Weinstein was a scumbag, Epstein was a scumbag, Wiener was a scumbag, Joetato is a scumbag, but let's be real Trump has done a lot of the same things. Doesn't make it OK.
But the the folks with TDS are on year 9 of 45 living rent free.. :flipoff2:
 
naw... just have to be approved by the insiders...


Said it before and will again... Since 2015, this has all been about making an example of 45 to keep other outsiders from considering a run.
Approval means being a rubberstamp for the donors - aka a world class crook.
 
You're not. All the stuff Trump ran to supposedly fix only got a lot worse. But none of it is his fault and he'll get it all right this time.

Okay... :laughing:

Trump ran on draining the swamp and the swamp attacked him with everything they had.
The swamp or deep state, whatever you want to call it, is a household name now.
Trump may not have done any draining but, he certainly brought the swamp out of the shadows and into the light.

We now know that the swamp (3 letter folks) works hand in hand with the DNC and Democrats, because of Trump.

So saying Trump didn't do anything isn't exactly true.
 
We now know that the swamp (3 letter folks) works hand in hand with the DNC and Democrats, because of Trump.
One of my mom's friends does things for the FBI(not an employee, but a contractor). She has one of the worst cases of TDS that I've ever seen.
 
Yes, the most debt added in a 4 year term. More gun control than Obama. Fauci, and everything that came with him. 25% tariffs on imports, but only from China, so it only resulted in inflation.

How is he considered “almost libertarian?” Or, in your words “slightly better.”



I haven’t looked into the “pro hamas” claim someone made earlier, so this could change, but I’ve yet to see a reason to not vote for Oliver.
So you did zero investigation as to whom your party nominated, nice.
 
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Trump ran on draining the swamp and the swamp attacked him with everything they had.
The swamp or deep state, whatever you want to call it, is a household name now.
Trump may not have done any draining but, he certainly brought the swamp out of the shadows and into the light.

We now know that the swamp (3 letter folks) works hand in hand with the DNC and Democrats, because of Trump.

So saying Trump didn't do anything isn't exactly true.
There were people who didn't realize there was a massive unelected governmental bureaucracy?
 
Trump ran on draining the swamp and the swamp attacked him with everything they had.
The swamp or deep state, whatever you want to call it, is a household name now.
Trump may not have done any draining but, he certainly brought the swamp out of the shadows and into the light.

We now know that the swamp (3 letter folks) works hand in hand with the DNC and Democrats, because of Trump.

So saying Trump didn't do anything isn't exactly true.
I'll agree with this.
There were people who didn't realize there was a massive unelected governmental bureaucracy?
I knew about it, but never really figured it was completely the FBI, CIA, DOJ etc. before 2016. I assumed each of these had little pockets of corruption and fuckery... but never would have thought they were completely glutted with it.
 
There were people who didn't realize there was a massive unelected governmental bureaucracy?

I'd bet most folks with a little smarts had an idea there was funny business going on inside the .gov.
But to the extent that everyone has clearly seen now? No, I think it took most by surprise.
I know I never expected the .gov to be massively interfering with elections HERE. Or trying to sink an elected Presidents term. Or trying to jail their opponent in the upcoming election. Other countries, sure.

Now days, they don't even seem to be trying to hide in the shadows anymore. Optics be damned, they're doing as they please.
 
That. Everyone should vote for their unicorn
Exactly. If all the people who wanted to vote third party but didn't because they feel like they'd be throwing their vote away would suck it up and actually do it maybe they wouldn't be throwing their vote away.
 
I'd bet most folks with a little smarts had an idea there was funny business going on inside the .gov.
But to the extent that everyone has clearly seen now? No, I think it took most by surprise.
I know I never expected the .gov to be massively interfering with elections HERE. Or trying to sink an elected Presidents term. Or trying to jail their opponent in the upcoming election. Other countries, sure.

Now days, they don't even seem to be trying to hide in the shadows anymore. Optics be damned, they're doing as they please.
You might be right. It just really surprises me that may have struck people as news.
 
Dude just vote for your unicorn, it's okay because you aren't changing minds here, but by all means continue anyway.
I'll be in the same boat as 2016, and 2020 without a vote cast for POTUS. Maybe I'll write in Vivek, or Charles Manson, or Taylor Swift. or...M. Mouse.
 
I'll be in the same boat as 2016, and 2020 without a vote cast for POTUS. Maybe I'll write in Vivek, or Charles Manson, or Taylor Swift. or...M. Mouse.
Do something. Don't leave it blank. Write in, throw a vote to RFK, just do something. Make them count a non-R or D vote.
 
Ayup, I stand corrected. The funny part is my next closest match on policies is Trump, soooo I guess I'll be doing that unless something majorly changes. Orange man is still rude in my eyes, but orange man economy was clearly superior.
See, this has been my point all along. You don’t have to like Trump or cry about his mean tweets, it’s about the bigger picture of getting things done and undone the commies did. That’s why the Democommies hate Trump so much. Sure, it’d be awesome if there was another Ross which I’d vote for again, but unfortunately we have what we have. A write in will do what? Nothing that’s what, nothing.

If there was a third party member that got to be a serious threat against the Democommies they would eat them up and spit them out like a piece of chewing tobacco. But it bounces off of Trump and he moves on. There will never be a candidate that people will like everything about them, if there was, that’s when you should really worry.

It does make you wonder why out of all the people in this once great country, where are all the real hero’s to step up for the job at?
 
Do something. Don't leave it blank. Write in, throw a vote to RFK, just do something. Make them count a non-R or D vote.
By all means, vote for communism, yay. :shaking:

This is why I believe libertarians are leftist deep down and you just proved it.
 
See, this has been my point all along. You don’t have to like Trump or cry about his mean tweets, it’s about the bigger picture of getting things done and undone the commies did. That’s why the Democommies hate Trump so much. Sure, it’d be awesome if there was another Ross which I’d vote for again, but unfortunately we have what we have. A write in will do what? Nothing that’s what, nothing.

If there was a third party member that got to be a serious threat against the Democommies they would eat them up and spit them out like a piece of chewing tobacco. But it bounces off of Trump and he moves on. There will never be a candidate that people will like everything about them, if there was, that’s when you should really worry.

It does make you wonder why out of all the people in this once great country, where are all the real hero’s to step up for the job at?

Do communists run a balanced budget? Cause the last two that had an admin with a balanced budget were LBJ and WJC.
 
See, this has been my point all along. You don’t have to like Trump or cry about his mean tweets, it’s about the bigger picture of getting things done and undone the commies did. That’s why the Democommies hate Trump so much. Sure, it’d be awesome if there was another Ross which I’d vote for again, but unfortunately we have what we have. A write in will do what? Nothing that’s what, nothing.

If there was a third party member that got to be a serious threat against the Democommies they would eat them up and spit them out like a piece of chewing tobacco. But it bounces off of Trump and he moves on. There will never be a candidate that people will like everything about them, if there was, that’s when you should really worry.

It does make you wonder why out of all the people in this once great country, where are all the real hero’s to step up for the job at?
I agree with you (now it hurts when I pee :flipoff2:)
And will add a question for the class.

Name me ONE current "Politician" that would be close to resembling the old-timey meaning of "Diplomat"
 
Not a single one of us has brought anything to the discussion. This whole thread is trash, including my posts. And yours too.

:laughing: :flipoff2:
Probably the most accurate thing ever posted here :laughing:
 
So you did zero investigation as to whom your party nominated, nice.
1. After the Mises Caucus took over the party I cancelled my party membership and reregistered as an independent instead.
2. The nomination occurred this weekend, hence this thread.
By all means, vote for communism, yay. :shaking:

This is why I believe libertarians are leftist deep down and you just proved it.
:lmao:

:shaking:
 
I'll agree with this.

I knew about it, but never really figured it was completely the FBI, CIA, DOJ etc. before 2016. I assumed each of these had little pockets of corruption and fuckery... but never would have thought they were completely glutted with it.
I was 20ish when RUBY RIDGE happened followed shortly by Waco.

Then the history of J. Edgar Hoover came to light.

My eyes were opened by the time the last fire truck pulled out of Waco.
 
By all means, vote for communism, yay. :shaking:

This is why I believe libertarians are leftist deep down and you just proved it.


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I was 20ish when RUBY RIDGE happened followed shortly by Waco.

Then the history of J. Edgar Hoover came to light.

My eyes were opened by the time the last fire truck pulled out of Waco.
Oh no doubt I new the 3 letters "had some corruption". I just had no idea it was pretty much the entire agency. And all of them. Entirely.
 
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