Know when to hold ‘em know when to fold em

[Snowy]

So the hiss is when the vanes are held in the fully shut position. Not necessarily an issue.

The codes mean it's not seeing the boost/back pressure numbers it expects for the commanded vane settings. If it's not getting good data from those sensors that can set a code with nothing mechanically wrong with the turbo.

Check the exhaust back pressure sensor line and make sure it's clear all the way through into the exhaust. One guy talked about having to ream the line out with a coat hanger because of soot buildup.

This is where having the Navistar trouble tree is a big value. Start with verifying sensor data at the sensor itself, then reported values at the ECM, then actual hard parts related liked the turbo. If I had skipped to the last step in the diagnostic process, I would have thrown away two perfectly good ISL’s in the last month for “low oil pressure” and “excessive crankcase pressure”. I replaced sensors for both and they run great now.

 

[NORDFORD]

Why are we on page 6? If you like the one you have, fix it. Literally that simple…

 

[DMG]

I’m not saying you’re wrong. I’ve seen that scenario play out many times. Here’s the things I’m weighing and the amount of weight those have to me. I’m not in a position to buy a brand new one right now, that’s off the table.

Buy a used truck.
Have to finance it: heavy
Full coverage insurance and taxes: heavy
Get it deleted: very heavy
Get it built for use, air bags, B&W turnover: very heavy

Fix old truck.
No payment no new tax burden
It’s already built out for the job it needs to do
for the cost of a couple years payments on a used truck I can completely rebuild this one.
The devil I know. Loved this truck the whole time I’ve had it.

Sounds like you should try to fix it then. Your truck would be a good candidate for a 6.7 or 5.9 swap if it doesn't work out long term.

 

[JR4X]

Why are we on page 6? If you like the one you have, fix it. Literally that simple…

Because in 6 pages it hasn’t fixed or replaced itself. What a bastard.

 

[NORDFORD]

Because in 6 pages it hasn’t fixed or replaced itself. What a bastard.

I hate it when they don’t cooperate!

 

[RPS1030]

Because in 6 pages it hasn’t fixed or replaced itself. What a bastard.

Start a YouTube and snap your fingers. It works every time.

 

[Will Scarlet]

Why are we on page 6? If you like the one you have, fix it. Literally that simple…

Because in 6 pages it hasn’t fixed or replaced itself. What a bastard.

 

[JR4X]

I hate it when they don’t cooperate!

Well I dove all the way into it. Got it all stripped out. Ordered hoses, belts, tensioner, idlers, several sensors, and just all the random crap that needs replaced due to time. Going to try a few things before having the turbo's done.

Found one broken exhaust manifold bolt I don't know how I'm going to get repaired without pulling the engine. Going to attempt to drill and EZ out, stay tuned for probable fail.

 

[CarterKraft]

Well I dove all the way into it. Got it all stripped out. Ordered hoses, belts, tensioner, idlers, several sensors, and just all the random crap that needs replaced due to time. Going to try a few things before having the turbo's done.

Found one broken exhaust manifold bolt I don't know how I'm going to get repaired without pulling the engine. Going to attempt to drill and EZ out, stay tuned for probable fail.

That escalated quickly

 

[JR4X]

That escalated quickly

I need this thing in May to go to the next race. Today is my Sunday, good a day as any to completely disassemble and start replacing crap. Doing thermostats sensors and just a bunch of general stuff that’s been completely ignored because it hasn’t needed it up to now. I’ll let it let me know this coming year if I can continue to rely on it or if it’s going to make me replace it.

 

[Chzbrgr]

Went looking for pics when I pulled the turbo's on my '08. No dice. Hopefully you don't have to. If you do without lifting the cab, a topside creeper is a necessity. Get after it!

 

[JR4X]

Went looking for pics when I pulled the turbo's on my '08. No dice. Hopefully you don't have to. If you do without lifting the cab, a topside creeper is a necessity. Get after it!

If the turbo’s get done I’ve got a place lined up to lift the cab for me.

 

[Tiha]

I need this thing in May to go to the next race.

I do exactly the same thing. Try to find reasons to not do what I know I should do, then end up just jumping in and doing it myself. LOL

Went looking for pics when I pulled the turbo's on my '08. No dice. Hopefully you don't have to. If you do without lifting the cab, a topside creeper is a necessity. Get after it!

When doing my son's 6.0 (one of the times) we found a piece of plywood that fit perfectly on top of the radiator support and was the width of the truck. I don't think it was as wide as the fenders.
Anyway after doing that, having that platform up there to lay on and work from it was like heaven.

Always said I would cut a piece of plywood to fit if I ever have to work on another stupid truck like that.

 

[CarterKraft]

The '08 I did the down pipe on I think I removed the wheels (37's) and put on the knuckles.
I have a top side creeper now, wouldn't be without one now.

 

[JR4X]

the one time I needed it to work more than any other time!!! I got it! Kroil, left handed bits, and I drank 4 beers to calm myself down before getting after it.

 

[aczlan]

You used up your luck for the week on that one

Aaron Z

 

[NORDFORD]

Well I dove all the way into it. Got it all stripped out. Ordered hoses, belts, tensioner, idlers, several sensors, and just all the random crap that needs replaced due to time. Going to try a few things before having the turbo's done.

Found one broken exhaust manifold bolt I don't know how I'm going to get repaired without pulling the engine. Going to attempt to drill and EZ out, stay tuned for probable fail.

Atta boy! Get that fucker done!!!

 

[YotaAtieToo]

Wtf, you just defied what's possible in the mechanical world.

 

[JR4X]

Wtf, you just defied what's possible in the mechanical world.

Lucky six-fo I’m telling you. Worst engine ever except for this one. (Knocks on wood)

 

[Grendel]

Play the fucking lottery now.

 

[JR4X]

Who else knew that the 6 speed was an option behind brand new 6.7’s?

I thought they’d be completely gone in 2023. The local ford dealership just got 3 brand new crew cab short bed XLT 4x4’s with 6.7’s cloth interiors and fawking 6 speeds. I’m shocked it’s still an option personally. I went and looked at them. Confirmed 3 2022’s same trucks just different colors all with 6 speeds. This one is the newer version of the truck that I have.

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New Ford Inventory | Cars for Sale in Farmington, NM | Ziems Ford Corners

www.ziemsfordcorners.com

 

[CarterKraft]

Who else knew that the 6 speed was an option behind brand new 6.7’s?

I thought they’d be completely gone in 2023. The local ford dealership just got 3 brand new crew cab short bed XLT 4x4’s with 6.7’s cloth interiors and fawking 6 speeds. I’m shocked it’s still an option personally. I went and looked at them. Confirmed 3 2022’s same trucks just different colors all with 6 speeds. This one is the newer version of the truck that I have.

New Ford Inventory | Cars for Sale in Farmington, NM | Ziems Ford Corners

New Ford Inventory | Cars for Sale in Farmington, NM | Ziems Ford Corners

www.ziemsfordcorners.com

I would swore to you it isn't? So confused

 

[YotaAtieToo]

Who else knew that the 6 speed was an option behind brand new 6.7’s?

I thought they’d be completely gone in 2023. The local ford dealership just got 3 brand new crew cab short bed XLT 4x4’s with 6.7’s cloth interiors and fawking 6 speeds. I’m shocked it’s still an option personally. I went and looked at them. Confirmed 3 2022’s same trucks just different colors all with 6 speeds. This one is the newer version of the truck that I have.

New Ford Inventory | Cars for Sale in Farmington, NM | Ziems Ford Corners

New Ford Inventory | Cars for Sale in Farmington, NM | Ziems Ford Corners

www.ziemsfordcorners.com

I thought it was only available on the 6.2, which I'm not even sure is still available for 2023.

That is surprising considering we have 2 or 3 base model F550s at work with 10 speeds.

Lucky six-fo I’m telling you. Worst engine ever except for this one. (Knocks on wood)

You know what's funny is that out of the handful I have direct experience with. None of them really had issues that I'm aware of. 2 were at work, 1 went at least 260k miles with very little issues. 2 were buddies. Both deleted and tuned. I don't know every detail of them, but one buddie kept his for well over 200k, even bought a aluminum 6.7 to replace it, then sold that and kept the 6.4

I'm not saying 6.0s and 6.4s don't have issues, but for some reason the internet just LOVES to hate on ford diesels. I really haven't seen that many issues with them first hand compared to what you read online.

 

[CarterKraft]

I would swore to you it isn't? So confused

Window sticker says 10 speed?

 

[CarterKraft]

I'm not saying 6.0s and 6.4s don't have issues, but for some reason the internet just LOVES to hate on ford diesels. I really haven't seen that many issues with them first hand compared to what you read online.

Do not ever apologize for the internet hate on 6.0-6.4 international engine's, they earned every fucking critique

 

[YotaAtieToo]

Do not ever apologize for the internet hate on 6.0-6.4 international engine's, they earned every fucking critique

Maybe so, but the problem is that everyone ignores that a lot gm and dodge of the same Era have tons of issues also.

 

[CarterKraft]

Who else knew that the 6 speed was an option behind brand new 6.7’s?

I thought they’d be completely gone in 2023. The local ford dealership just got 3 brand new crew cab short bed XLT 4x4’s with 6.7’s cloth interiors and fawking 6 speeds. I’m shocked it’s still an option personally. I went and looked at them. Confirmed 3 2022’s same trucks just different colors all with 6 speeds. This one is the newer version of the truck that I have.

New Ford Inventory | Cars for Sale in Farmington, NM | Ziems Ford Corners

New Ford Inventory | Cars for Sale in Farmington, NM | Ziems Ford Corners

www.ziemsfordcorners.com

That truck is kind of weird though. It's options are priced a little high.

This is a '23 250 Lariat with tow technology package and 5th wheel hitch.
Sync 4 screen, leather seats etc.

 

[Gbkeith]

Who else knew that the 6 speed was an option behind brand new 6.7’s?

I thought they’d be completely gone in 2023. The local ford dealership just got 3 brand new crew cab short bed XLT 4x4’s with 6.7’s cloth interiors and fawking 6 speeds. I’m shocked it’s still an option personally. I went and looked at them. Confirmed 3 2022’s same trucks just different colors all with 6 speeds. This one is the newer version of the truck that I have.

New Ford Inventory | Cars for Sale in Farmington, NM | Ziems Ford Corners

New Ford Inventory | Cars for Sale in Farmington, NM | Ziems Ford Corners

www.ziemsfordcorners.com

The person filling out the ad for your local dealership doesn’t know what they’re talking about.

 

[Gbkeith]

That truck is kind of weird though. It's options are priced a little high.

This is a '23 250 Lariat with tow technology package and 5th wheel hitch.
Sync 4 screen, leather seats etc.

Tow technology or high capacity tow? Ones cameras and wires, the other is an axle and springs.

 

[CarterKraft]

Tow technology or high capacity tow? Ones cameras and wires, the other is an axle and springs.

Both actually, but I figured he needs high capacity axle doesn't necessarily need tow tech