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I don't understand you. I thought that an Israeli simply dropped off a USB flash drive at the facility parking lot and some technician plugged it into his terminal. Allahu Akbar :confused:

Edit: Ex beat me to it. :flipoff:

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While it wasn't a wartime incident, we cannot forget the absolute precision effort given to the zero days exploit at Natanz. Granted it wasn't designed to maim and murder, but the timing required overall was the most precise infiltration by a nation state I'd ever seen.

Makes you wonder what Israel thought was coming their way. Thats a hell of a hole card to use and they'll never get to do it again
 
Makes you wonder what Israel thought was coming their way. Thats a hell of a hole card to use and they'll never get to do it again

They got them a month ago or so. That's time to get them all in place and before they started getting discovered. They had an expiration date.
 
"wow geez there's a blob of semtex in here that's not normal"

"Highly unlikely Captain. Most humans go their entire life without ever opening a pager device. I find a high improbability of that scenario and I find it an ill considered thought " -Spock on giz

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"Highly unlikely Captain. Most humans go their entire life without ever opening a pager device. I find a high improbability of that scenario and I find it an ill considered thought " -Spock on giz

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well how else do you get at the vibrator motor wires to attach a cap?

"oh surely they wouldn't be making remote detonated bombs out of their jewish remote detonated bombs, such things are far too complex for sand people"
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The level of sophistication and detail required to accomplish that far outweighs intercepting a shipment of devices and altering them.

It really was impressive, in any measurement. The audacity to assume it would work with all of the human players involved, the scale of technology, and the impunity to actually succeed. :grinpimp:
 
I am absolutely sure someone will correct me if I am wrong and I probably am.

I seem to recall that during the Vietnam war that our guys would intercept Vietcong munitions from time to time and do little fun things like fill the tenth round in a belt with C-4 and other dirty little tricks, I know they did the same kinda thing in WW2 but I can't seem to remember what it was they did back then.
 
I seem to recall that during the Vietnam war that our guys would intercept Vietcong munitions from time to time and do little fun things like fill the tenth round in a belt with C-4 and other dirty little tricks
A lot of that ackshually occurred in Laos and Cambodia . . . er, I mean "didn't happen at all" because we "didn't have any operations" in those non-combatant countries (that the commies were using as supply routes) :flipoff2:
 
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Israel Did Not Intercept Hezbollah Pagers That Exploded — It Made Them​

Unbeknownst to Hezbollah, Israel had been secretly manufacturing the pagers that Hezbollah was buying for years.
By Daily Wire News

Sep 19, 2024 DailyWire.com


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Israel has injured thousands across Lebanon, with hundreds in critical condition and dozens more dead, this week in two waves of simultaneous explosions of electronic communications equipment targeting Iranian-backed Hezbollah terrorists.
The blasts — which may have killed 19 and wounded 150 of Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) members — started on Tuesday afternoon around 3:30 p.m. local time when pagers used by Hezbollah started beeping with a message from their leadership.

After a few beeps, the pagers simultaneously exploded across the country, blinding hundreds, tearing off limbs, and leaving gaping holes in bodies.
The messages that the devices received were not from Hezbollah leadership; they were from Israel’s intelligence and military apparatus, and they were part of a multi-year plan.
There was initial confusion as to what happened when the explosions were reported. Various news reports said that malware had potentially been uploaded to the devices, causing the batteries to overheat and explode. Then reports surfaced claiming a small amount of highly explosive material had been placed into each device after Israel intercepted the devices after they were manufactured by a Taiwanese company.
However, none of those reports were accurate, according to a New York Times report that revealed that Israel never intercepted the pagers — it made them.
Hezbollah has forced tens of thousands of Israelis to evacuate their homes in northern Israel since October 7 as the terrorist group fires drones, rockets, and missiles on a regular basis — having fired many thousands in nearly 12 months.
Israel has responded with precision strikes, killing more than 300 top Hezbollah commanders and numerous lower-level terrorists.
Hezbollah Secretary General Hassan Nasrallah pushed for the terrorists to abandon their phones and switch to low-tech pagers to avoid being tracked by Israel. Nasrallah had bragged that his strategy would “blind” Israel.

However, unbeknownst to Hezbollah, Israel had been secretly manufacturing the pagers that Hezbollah was buying for years.
The Taiwanese company Gold Apollo had contracted with a company called B.A.C. Consulting in Hungary to manufacture the pagers. B.A.C. Consulting was one of three shell companies that Israel created to mask the true manufacturer of the communications equipment: Israeli intelligence.
B.A.C. Consulting created real pagers for numerous customers to create the perception of a legitimate company in order to get picked up for the contract to produce the pagers for Hezbollah.
The pagers manufactured for Hezbollah were separate from those made for other clients, the report said. The pagers that Hezbollah received “contained batteries laced with the explosive PETN” and began shipping in 2022, the report said.
After the first round of explosions on Tuesday, Israel struck again on Wednesday, detonating Hezbollah’s backup communications equipment: walkie-talkies.
The explosions from the walkie-talkies were significantly larger than the explosions from the pagers because the devices were larger, meaning they could be packed with more explosive material. Videos posted online showed entire apartment units blown out and numerous cars engulfed in flames.
After the second wave of explosions, many in Lebanon threw their phones away, turned them off, or removed the batteries.
The walkie-talkies that Hezbollah used appeared to be from the Japanese telecommunications manufacturer Icom; however, the company said that the model Hezbollah was using had been discontinued for a decade.
The company said that it had warned consumers for years that the model of radios that Hezbollah purchased were counterfeits.
One of the goals behind the second wave of the attack was to “increase paranoia and fear in Hezbollah’s ranks, in an attempt to press the militia’s leadership to change its policy regarding the conflict with Israel,” Axios reported.
IDF Chief of Staff, Lt. Col. Herzi Halevi, said that Israel was “very determined to create the security conditions that will return the residents to their homes, to the communities, with a high level of security, and we are ready to do all that is required to bring about these things.”
He warned Hezbollah: “We still have many capabilities that we have not yet activated. We saw some of these things here, and it seems to me that the readiness is good and we are preparing these plans going forward. The rule is that every time we work on a certain stage, the next two stages are already ready to advance. At each stage, the price for Hezbollah must be high.”
 
Wonder if the pager/walkie talkie operation is the beginning of something bigger.
turns out if you send rockets into a country every day for a year they get pissy.
who knew?

I'm no huge israel supporter, but it bothers me that all the news reporting is talking about how the israelis caused civilian casualties and that OMG children died in today's airstrike.
The only reason hezbollah isn't causing mass civilian casualties in israel is because israel is willing to spend a zillion dollars in anti air defense ordnance to shoot down dumb rockets aimed at them.

so while I definitely don't want us to bankroll their defense or become involved, I'm not going to act like the buly didn't deserve getting punched in the face a few times either.
fuck em. If you can't be civilized then lets be uncivilized.
 
I think more is forthcoming. And beyond southern Lebanon. A huge difference in this war is that it is not a mic for profit war but a war for survival. Military Industrial Complex. mic
 
"willing to spend"
as if it isn't given to them specifically earmarked for that purpose
we're certainly helping out on that, but they're also buying a shit ton of things and making a shit ton of things.
they retired patriot earlier this year, so everything they're downing rockets with is indigenous currently. Made with a bunch of raytheon parts of course.
 
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