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So I’m guessing the 190 or 210 front axles are The ring gear diameter In mm? And the rear D44 is 220mm? Sounds interesting to have two front options and I would have thought they’d go with the Ford 9 3/4” for the rear instead.
 








The 4 door will tow 5k no prob. But since People are retards, meeting the masses in a sub 40k machine rife with mall crawling soccer tards..... being conservative seems prudent. Think bronco 2 and Firestone explorer.....

I understand not towing over rating. That is simply being responsible. But I modify my machine to tow more. Bigger brakes, axles, and beefed suspension and frame. Anything towed over 5k gets brakes or put on a trailer with brakes.

like the original bronco, cooling air flow may be a limiter .... Based on the ranger that is doubtful.


Manual trans with 400 ft pounds on tap is fuking brutal ..... These are not 60,s through 90,s small block embarrassments . Was not long ago..... People that built 400 HP 400 tq wheelers .... Well THEY built them. THEY for THEM. The individual.

I didn't just let anyone drive my 280hp/ 330tq POS ranger in the mid 90,s..because it was dangerous and would break shit toooooo easily......

and those are sissy power numbers worthy of your grandchild's powerwheels in the back yard these days.



53k is the list on my 2.7 f150 sport. So getting a 50k list bronco is a non issue. This thing is ridiculous.


No one here has ever bought a stock bronco that could even touch one of these things. And few have ever built one that can compare.


The complaints about v8 and straight axles are fuking retarded. The 2.3 which is the sissy engine, would shred pos eb 260 joint axleshafts.....and 760 with 35 in tires. It has more power at any point on the curve then any previous small block....and will bitch smack any previous Wrangler engine.


Add a tune....and it's totally off the charts.





The v8 and straight axle may come in a full-size a bit later. Like a hd 250 2 door expy. Or not.


But to write these off over straight axle and a v8 with these numbers is beyond stupid.

The overcomplicating....yes that is worthy..... I do understand bitching about that....we all do.

And a few of these guys totally understand that, more importantly, they understand they can have more then one chassis on these modern assembly lines. They do it every day.

So a simple cyclone or 5.0 coyote detuned a bit with a hand shaker and solid 44 is easy to do.

Problem is....those are both complicated as fawk cam phasing 10 miles of timing chain wonders as well.


I can't wait to get one.
 
I like the base model, but will not give ford any more of my money. Their support of blm has turned me off of ford fully.
 
Welby said:
I think they're great, all 3 of them. Yes, the Sport as well. Options are good, competition is good. I don't know what you guys (and a ton of other people's) obsession is with being bummed out about the lack of a V8. Yes, I have a 5.0 Mustang, but no, I couldn't care less if it's not available in a Bronco. The IFS thing? Not seeing the big deal here either. How many people are going to hardcore rock crawl these things, 1...2%? 1-2% of the 1-2% that can afford to just buy a brand new vehicle and thrash on it in the rocks.

These things look great to me. I almost think the 35's look borderline cartoonish and would like to see one on 33's for comparison. Man, I'm getting old, I never would have said that 20 years ago :laughing:
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I've actually thought that about the JK's as well. But every time I think about 35's and up I recall the cost of buying new tires. :eek: Fat 33's look decent on alot of stuff. Alot of people wheel the JK stuff pretty hard. Obviously they are not all stock.



Lawless said:
I am OK with it, well not the sport but the others yea. I might think about the 2dr when one shows up here that I can actually touch till then not too worried.

Interesting though how the Jeep community is looking at this, I figured they would wave the flag and try to pick it apart. I've seen quiet the opposite reaction from them though.
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It's a pretty good job. I'm not a Ford fan but they do seem to be quite a bit better on their execution then other OEMs. They had to make some compromises but seemed hit the nail when they could.
 
Wheelerfreak said:
So I’m guessing the 190 or 210 front axles are The ring gear diameter In mm? And the rear D44 is 220mm? Sounds interesting to have two front options and I would have thought they’d go with the Ford 9 3/4” for the rear instead.
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All of the new Dana "44" axles are going to metric designations. JL has like 3 different axles, pretty sure it's the same as what the Bronco has for a rear end.
 
just for all you ifs nay sayers :flipoff2:

couldnt find a good pic of the 4wd trophy truck

i think consumer level IFS kits could show up at any time

theres just needs to be a popular platform

clearly the tech, parts and know-how exist

Ford being one of the manufacturers to build a "high performance" offroad IFS truck (raptor)

so with that being said, it has potential, now lets see if any companies take advantage of that potential





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ev13wt said:
What was the first SUV?
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Not the bronco.

Scout, sugga, willys, carryall, ... ford just jumped on the bandwagon with the bronco and didnt innovate a damn thing.

I've owned several and like the bronco throughout the generations. The infomercial "release" was a huge let down. Their marketing dept sucks.
 
Arickvan said:
just for all you ifs nay sayers :flipoff2:

i think consumer level IFS kits could show up at any time
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Autofab has been making cut and turned beams since the 1980s. :flipoff2:

You are never going to get a consumer A-arm IFS kit that doesn't suck because of the packaging limitations imposed by keeping OEM drivetrain geometry, cross-members and whatnot. In order to get decent travel numbers while retaining favorable alignment changes and sane joint operating angles throughout the travel you need to use longer arms. In order to use longer arms you need to move the pivot points in. In order to move the pivot points in you need damn near every component to be packaged differently. Unless your "kit" replaces almost the entire front of the vehicle you are turd polishing at best.
 
Arickvan said:
just for all you ifs nay sayers :flipoff2:

couldnt find a good pic of the 4wd trophy truck

i think consumer level IFS kits could show up at any time

theres just needs to be a popular platform

clearly the tech, parts and know-how exist

Ford being one of the manufacturers to build a "high performance" offroad IFS truck (raptor)

so with that being said, it has potential, now lets see if any companies take advantage of that potential
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The problem is the cost. A 2" spacer lift is about the same, ifs or solid axle, and a full on coilover kit is probably about the same. But for everyone in between, ifs kinda sucks. Say a nice basic 4" kit. Not really long travel territory, but definitely more than a spacer can do. Drop bracket lifts are pretty gay for wheelin. This is about where I'm at with my 96 4runner. I don't want to spend the time or cost to dive into an SAS, but I'd like to get a little more clearance than the 2" spacer lift. If it had a factory solid axle, it would be done already.

Ifs still sucks for true crawling, imo.
 
arse_sidewards said:
Autofab has been making cut and turned beams since the 1980s. :flipoff2:

You are never going to get a consumer A-arm IFS kit that doesn't suck because of the packaging limitations imposed by keeping OEM drivetrain geometry, cross-members and whatnot. In order to get decent travel numbers while retaining favorable alignment changes and sane joint operating angles throughout the travel you need to use longer arms. In order to use longer arms you need to move the pivot points in. In order to move the pivot points in you need damn near every component to be packaged differently. Unless your "kit" replaces almost the entire front of the vehicle you are turd polishing at best.
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TTB for the win! :grinpimp:

build a drop in k brace - diff- axles - arms kit then:flipoff2:

or just claim it as a full width A arm kit :laughing:
 
Blugreenformula said:
I like the base model, but will not give ford any more of my money. Their support of blm has turned me off of ford fully.
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Sorry to interrupt your FB ignorance but that was the Ford Foundation, a completely separate entity from Ford Motor Company. By all means continue your ignorance based "boycott" though!
 
arse_sidewards said:
Autofab has been making cut and turned beams since the 1980s. :flipoff2:

You are never going to get a consumer A-arm IFS kit that doesn't suck because of the packaging limitations imposed by keeping OEM drivetrain geometry, cross-members and whatnot. In order to get decent travel numbers while retaining favorable alignment changes and sane joint operating angles throughout the travel you need to use longer arms. In order to use longer arms you need to move the pivot points in. In order to move the pivot points in you need damn near every component to be packaged differently. Unless your "kit" replaces almost the entire front of the vehicle you are turd polishing at best.
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This is what I keep trying to explain to people, but they just don't get it. "There are IFS cars winning at KOH, so IFS is better in every way than a solid axle, even though there is nothing remotely in common between those vehicles and a production SLA IFS system!":homer:
 
Vinman said:
Why’s that pic look so photo chopped? The driver looks absolutely tiny sitting in there.
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From the Bronco 6G forum the guy claiming to be in the picture:

A2bambach said:
Yeah I’m only 5’10” but believe me this vehicle is massive for a 2dr
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According to Ford's specs they released on the Bronco, the 2 door is supposed to be 2-6"wider than the JL depending on trim, and 7-8"longer.
 
'84 Bronco II said:
This is what I keep trying to explain to people, but they just don't get it. "There are IFS cars winning at KOH, so IFS is better in every way than a solid axle, even though there is nothing remotely in common between those vehicles and a production SLA IFS system!":homer:
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:laughing: i brought up the KOH cars to show that the knowledge is more common now

imagine trying to order a 9" diff for an IFS 15yrs ago vs doing it today
 
Man, the belt line of that truck looks really high. I wonder if it's going to have much more visibility than the recent FJ Cruiser? Friends wife has one, it has horrible visibility.
 
If that pic is correct, and that guy is 5'10", then nobodys wife is ever going to be able to drive the thing. 5'3" and you're staring at the center of the steering wheel.

Dunno whats going on with the pic, but bullshit is afoot.
 
Wheelerfreak said:
So I’m guessing the 190 or 210 front axles are The ring gear diameter In mm? And the rear D44 is 220mm? Sounds interesting to have two front options and I would have thought they’d go with the Ford 9 3/4” for the rear instead.
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Yes, it is the OD of the ring gear.
The option is determined by which market the vehicle is going to and which package. Both will be optioned open or EDL and with or without a disconnect. For U.S., we should see 190 open with or without disconnect and 210 EDL with disconnect. And alas, one is aluminum and the other is iron. Though both housings are designed and tested to withstand the abuse these will see.
 
45acp said:
If that pic is correct, and that guy is 5'10", then nobodys wife is ever going to be able to drive the thing. 5'3" and you're staring at the center of the steering wheel.

Dunno whats going on with the pic, but bullshit is afoot.
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To be fair, the driver's seat appears to be lowered all the way (or at least substantially) compared to the passenger seat, so he might have just jumped in for a picture after a giant was driving it :laughing:

I am just shy of 6'5", and a lot of short people can't even jump in a vehicle to move it across a parking lot without fucking with all the seat and steering wheel adjustments after I have been driving.
 
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