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evernoob said:
Serious question, you plan on wheeling a stock Bronco through those areas? Or a stock anything?
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I'll talk slowly, so stupid, ignorant, no-reading-comprehension motherfuckers like yourself can catch up:
. . . Y . . . E . . . S :homer:

Believe it or not, there are folks who wheel stock new shit that's capable of wheeling.
That's why I would buy shit like that. It's not to impress anyone, it's a tool for our use.


evernoob said:
If not then I think your response is irrelevant, as usual :flipoff2:

Not only that, it's pointless with me, as I qualified as 'soccer-mobile', so it should have been understood by you that we aren't talking about hardcore rock-crawling, oh Rock God.
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So: you have zero need for this vehicle, you don't wheel, and your opinion is worth dick in this thread.

Got it. You're like Puto O'Rourke discussing firearms. (ooh, sorry - sore subject, El Puto Prohibido?).

Now, Skippy - please go play with yourself outside, so the adults can have an adult conversation.
 
Now I understand what all the hoopla about the standard trans is about:

Whether or not you approve of the name is up to you, but the Sasquatch package has all the off-road goodies you might want on your Bronco. It's standard on the Wildtrak and limited First Edition models but can be added to any Bronco from the base model up. It includes 17-inch wheels wrapped with 35-inch mud-terrain tires, the electronic transfer case, electronic locking front and rear locking axles with a 4.7:1 final-drive ratio, a 1.2-inch lift, larger fender flares (to fit the big tires), and heavy-duty Bilstein shock absorbers. All these upgrades widen the Bronco's track by up to 3.0 inches, Ford says. But you can only get this package with the automatic, not the manual transmission, a Ford spokesman says.
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It appears that lockers is not a sasquatch only option and standard equipment on the upper options.

A hydraulic anti-roll-bar disconnect is standard on the Badlands and First Edition Broncos but is not available on other Bronco models.
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Sure enough, the sway bar disco is an option all on its own. I was under the impression sasquatch = Rubicon.

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From what I gather, the Badlands is the only Bronco worth owning. Its essentially the Rubicon equivalent, sans the 35s of the stink ape.


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If all this has already been hashed out, I apologize for being late to the party. :homer:
 
I like the black diamond, iirc, it's the most simple model with rubber floors and easy to remove drain plugs. Also has steel bumpers and skid plates.

Seems like the most offroad oriented model.

The only thing I see the badlands has that the black diamond doesn't is a stupid auto tcase. So imo the black diamond with a regular selectable tcase is better.
 
YotaAtieToo said:
I like the black diamond, iirc, it's the most simple model with rubber floors and easy to remove drain plugs. Also has steel bumpers and skid plates.

Seems like the most offroad oriented model.

The only thing I see the badlands has that the black diamond doesn't is a stupid auto tcase. So imo the black diamond with a regular selectable tcase is better.
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no sway bar disco and 2.72 vs 3.0 t-case low. No lockers standard on black diamond. They're both electronic so moot point IMHO, just a chain case like everything else. It's really going to come down to how much the sasquatch package costs.

That sway bar disco looks way over engineered, it may be better not to have it and wait on the aftermarket to catch up.

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TRINDU said:
It's really going to come down to how much the sasquatch package costs.
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As of right it sounds like the actual bead locks are sold separately, the rims they are selling are "bead lock capable". Sounds like they are doing this for legal reasons, but that also means more money as I doubt these are getting thrown in by the dealers
 
I dont buy new stuff so I am not their market here but I am glad to see a lot of off-road oriented options on a new vehicle. I hope the trend continues and they sell a shit ton of them.
 
Citizen Hawk said:
As of right it sounds like the actual bead locks are sold separately, the rims they are selling are "bead lock capable". Sounds like they are doing this for legal reasons, but that also means more money as I doubt these are getting thrown in by the dealers
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The Raptor wheels are like that already. Buy 4 Ford Motorsport locking rings to replace the "trim rings" and then dismount the outer bead and clamp it in the beadlock. Buying 4 clamp rings is still alot cheaper than having to buy 5 beadlocks.
 
TRINDU said:
no sway bar disco and 2.72 vs 3.0 t-case low. No lockers standard on black diamond. They're both electronic so moot point IMHO, just a chain case like everything else. It's really going to come down to how much the sasquatch package costs.

That sway bar disco looks way over engineered, it may be better not to have it and wait on the aftermarket to catch up.
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Meh, sway bar disconnect on ifs? It's not like they flex either way :laughing:​​​​​​

As far as the tcase ratio, I figured the sasnatch package was a given.

Which I guess means that you get the auto 4x4 on demand with the sasquatch package? Just what I want, is to wait for my rear tires to slip so a computer can engage 4wd. :rolleyes: it is lame that you get an electronic shift tcase even with a manual trans :homer: I think jeep has been manual tcase this whole time right?

Rear locker is standard on the black diamond also:flipoff2:




On a separate note, what is the point of having so many rear axle sizes. 190mm, 210mm, and 220mm? Wouldn't it be cheaper to just make one and have the locker optional?
 
SLOWPOKE693 said:
The Raptor wheels are like that already. Buy 4 Ford Motorsport locking rings to replace the "trim rings" and then dismount the outer bead and clamp it in the beadlock. Buying 4 clamp rings is still alot cheaper than having to buy 5 beadlocks.
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I can honestly say I haven’t seen any headlocks on raptors in our area. Hell, the majority have aftermarket 20” rims. I would guess the people who buy those are probably proportional to the people who actually put the winch line on their power wagon here.
 
YotaAtieToo said:
On a separate note, what is the point of having so many rear axle sizes. 190mm, 210mm, and 220mm? Wouldn't it be cheaper to just make one and have the locker optional?
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From my reading on this, there is only one rear axle size, the 220 mm which they are calling some sort of Dana 44. The front is either 190mm aluminum housing open diff or 210mm cast house for the locker.
 
Wow, I didn’t realize people were still so ignorant.

Some people like to wheel stockish vehicles. It is difficult and ass-puckering risky because you are attempting to limit damage. I wheeled a stock YJ when they first came out. I wheeled a stock mid-90s Bronco bought new. I wheeled a stick H2 when they first came out. Hell, I trailered a buddy’s buggy 6hrs on the interstate, wheeled with him and other trailered buggies and then trailered his buggy back home. I wheeled a stock 4door JK when they came out.

places like moab, katemcy, tellico, grayrock, windrock, and several small private places in AR are fun to wheel with family in stockish vehicles
 
YotaAtieToo said:
Meh, sway bar disconnect on ifs? It's not like they flex either way :laughing:​​​​​​

As far as the tcase ratio, I figured the sasnatch package was a given.
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from what I can tell sasquatch has fuck all to do with the tcase. Its merely a lift/tire package and maybe lockers if not already equipped. The 2 spd is 2.72 and the electro is 3.06, which has to do with which trim level you pick.
 
YotaAtieToo said:
Meh, sway bar disconnect on ifs? It's not like they flex either way :laughing:​​​​​​

As far as the tcase ratio, I figured the sasnatch package was a given.

Which I guess means that you get the auto 4x4 on demand with the sasquatch package? Just what I want, is to wait for my rear tires to slip so a computer can engage 4wd. :rolleyes: it is lame that you get an electronic shift tcase even with a manual trans :homer: I think jeep has been manual tcase this whole time right?

Rear locker is standard on the black diamond also:flipoff2:




On a separate note, what is the point of having so many rear axle sizes. 190mm, 210mm, and 220mm? Wouldn't it be cheaper to just make one and have the locker optional?
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Look at the mode selector, there's 2H, 4H, 4L and 4A. Only in 4A will it decide on its own, otherwise 4H/4L is the normal fully engaged 4wd.

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TRINDU said:
That sway bar disco looks way over engineered, it may be better not to have it and wait on the aftermarket to catch up.

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I'll take a good hydraulic actuator over an electrical one for long-term durability. The electric disco. in my JK has held up for 10 years, but 10s of 1000s of others have failed & been shitcanned in that time. I run a MM 9k hydraulic winch, so I'm curious what PSI & GPM happen to be laying around in that area of the vehicle :grinpimp:


YotaAtieToo said:
Meh, sway bar disconnect on ifs? It's not like they flex either way :laughing:​​​​​​
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It's a significant improvement in front articulation - here's connected vs. disco'd:

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I screenshot those from this source:


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Screenshots are from ~5:20 https://youtu.be/CacIlFaXph0?t=320
 
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^^ What's more impressive about that image to me is the lack of flex with it connected...speaks a lot to how this thing might handle on road. Let's face it, these things will spend 95% of their time on the road, even for the most hardcore off road owners, and the IFS/decent sway bar will make it a much more usable vehicle.
 
I reread it and didn't realize that the "upper" 1/3 of the packages came with f&r rear lockers.

They definitely went about it much differently than jeep. Well at least I think, maybe the Rubicon isn't the only package with lockers and 4:1 case?

Makes me wonder what the sasquatch package really does on the upper models? Just bigger tires?
 
ExWrench said:
I'll take a good hydraulic actuator over an electrical one for long-term durability. The electric disco. in my JK has held up for 10 years, but 10s of 1000s of others have failed & been shitcanned in that time. I run a MM 9k hydraulic winch, so I'm curious what PSI & GPM happen to be laying around in that area of the vehicle :grinpimp:
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I believe its eletric assist steering, like everything else. So is there just a little pump for the disco? Or what else does it run?
 
SLOWPOKE693 said:
Looks like the hydraulic line off the disco runs to an electric motor with a small reservoir behind it.
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So self contained electric over hydraulic over mechanical. All they're missing is 47ft of vacuum hose.

The price of the stink ape is really going to determine which model/trim is the best bang for buck.

Rubicon is the only way to get disco, lockers, & 4:1. The other packages are for show.
 
TRINDU said:
So self contained electric over hydraulic over mechanical. All they're missing is 47ft of vacuum hose.

The price of the stink ape is really going to determine which model/trim is the best bang for buck.

Rubicon is the only way to get disco, lockers, & 4:1. The other packages are for show.
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Yeah but not everyone wants to be a jeep fag , some folks just want something different and capable without having to build it from ground up.
 
Has anyone seen any pricing on packages? I'm seriously thinking about going ahead and reserving one. Daughter will need a car in Feb when she starts driving and I think I'll pass on my Rubi to her and try out the Bronco. I assume that if you are getting in on the first runs you are paying full retail....? Never done that for a car before.



TRINDU said:
From what I gather, the Badlands is the only Bronco worth owning. Its essentially the Rubicon equivalent, sans the 35s of the stink ape.
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I am also getting to this thread very late. Wondering why you state the above? I have been seeing some Youtube vids of the Base model with the 'Squatch package and it seems pretty capable.
 
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