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Flying is a miserable experience nowadays

Iv found that commercial charter is regularly same price for 3-7 people and saves hours per trip (>2000mi). Shits awesome once you've done it if you value your time, plus the checks are way less invasive and insulting.
 
Fawk fawk fawk air travel ... and fuck you ATC for fucking me all day... rant off
 
Last time I flew was Feb 2020 coming back from Geneva. Prior to that was several times a month for the previous 5-6 years.

Monday I get to fly EWR to Sioux Falls SD. Was hoping to avoid until the mask stuff goes away, but timing just didn't work out.

It'll be United connecting through ORD. Pretty much every purchase I've made since that 2020 trip has gone towards rewards points that have just been stockpiling, so I'm welcoming my return to flight with first class and lounge access. And a shuttle to the hotel when I land :laughing: mask down when drinking, and all...

Soon as the mask stuff exits I've got a bunch of rescheduled trips to uncork, probably along with everyone else unfortunately...
 
AKnate said:
I don't get how I can have background checks for working on the runways as well as Hazmat and TWIC and not be cleared through TSA.

Would be nice not having to pull my boots off. My back is fawked. Bending to untie and tie boots while trying to shuffle in the cattle runs is a PITA.
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You can use your TWIC credentials to get tsa pre check now
 
stjames151 said:
Iv found that commercial charter is regularly same price for 3-7 people and saves hours per trip (>2000mi). Shits awesome once you've done it if you value your time, plus the checks are way less invasive and insulting.
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Details on doing this??!!

Honestly my next big toy was going to be a classic car or an airboat or something but I’m really pondering Buying an airplane and getting my pilots license
 
Tthe first result on Google...:flipoff2::flipoff2:

Active TWIC® and HME holders can use their credentials to obtain TSA PreCheck™ | Transportation Security Administration

WASHINGTON – The Transportation Security Administration (TSA) expands TSA PreCheck™ eligibility to all active Transportation Worker Identification Credential (TWIC®) and Hazardous Materials Endorsement (HME) holders who are U.S. citizens, U.S. nationals or lawful permanent residents.
www.tsa.gov www.tsa.gov

TWIC® and HME holders can obtain TSA PreCheck expedited screening by entering the identification numbers printed on their TWIC® card or state-issued CDL during the airline reservation process. Active TWIC® card holders enter their TWIC® credential identification number (CIN) in the known traveler number (KTN) field of their airline reservation. The CIN is printed on the back of each TWIC® card in the lower left-hand corner. Active HME holders enter the two-letter state abbreviation and CDL identification number from their state-issued commercial driver’s license in the appropriate KTN field. (For example: NY12345678.)
 
Clemson13 said:
Tthe first result on Google...:flipoff2::flipoff2:

Active TWIC® and HME holders can use their credentials to obtain TSA PreCheck™ | Transportation Security Administration

WASHINGTON – The Transportation Security Administration (TSA) expands TSA PreCheck™ eligibility to all active Transportation Worker Identification Credential (TWIC®) and Hazardous Materials Endorsement (HME) holders who are U.S. citizens, U.S. nationals or lawful permanent residents.
www.tsa.gov www.tsa.gov

TWIC® and HME holders can obtain TSA PreCheck expedited screening by entering the identification numbers printed on their TWIC® card or state-issued CDL during the airline reservation process. Active TWIC® card holders enter their TWIC® credential identification number (CIN) in the known traveler number (KTN) field of their airline reservation. The CIN is printed on the back of each TWIC® card in the lower left-hand corner. Active HME holders enter the two-letter state abbreviation and CDL identification number from their state-issued commercial driver’s license in the appropriate KTN field. (For example: NY12345678.)
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I just booked a flight, it never asked me for that shit.

I couldn't find any info on the TSA site.
 
My link is from the tsa website:flipoff2:

You likely need to add it into you loyalty/sky miles/etc account for whatever airline.

Log into your United account that shows the flight, go into your profile, somewhere in there it will have a field for redress number (don't put out there, that's for terrorists) and a field for known traveler number. Fill it in there. Then that gets populated into every ticket you buy with that airline.

If you're not part of anyone's loyalty program & booked with cheapest fly by night airline..... I have no idea how to do it.
 
Seems like Boeing's are giant pieces of shit lately, any thoughts on this Pyleit or other pilot types?? This quote seems a bit scary, even to non aviation people: "instability of flight controls on final, go-around, hard controls, flight path oscillations."

 
1981K20 said:
Seems like Boeing's are giant pieces of shit lately, any thoughts on this Pyleit or other pilot types?? This quote seems a bit scary, even to non aviation people: "instability of flight controls on final, go-around, hard controls, flight path oscillations."

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I'm just going to call it as pilot error right now and know that statistics are well on my side.
 
Reading the article it sounds like they may have entered another planes wake turbulence. They dont mention what the weather is, but strong gusting winds around buildings and other ground features create some unpredictable mechanical turbulence.

That said there is always the option (usually correct) for pilot error. We are human and make errors, its how those errors get corrected that makes the difference between "oops" and "oooof" :homer:

We have a no fault go around policy. If at anytime durung the approach its becomes unstable or the pilot feels a go around is the safest action, do it. Planes hitting the ground when unstable may end badly, planes going around and setting up again for a stablized approach and landing is safer for everyone.

These guys did what they should have. Go around and do it again.

Stop with the derailing! This thread is about how much flying sucks these days!!:flipoff2:
 
mongosd2 said:
Have you done the interview for pre-check? Fucking joke, 5 questions and verified my documents (passport card), took 15 minutes. No fingerprint check, if they did a background check they didn’t ask for contact info for anyone or work, Granted that was pre-Covid
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Pre check is just a money grab. Make flying miserable, charge for it to be slightly less miserable
 
Pyleit

Seems that a majority of these flight cancellations miss connecting flights etc. fall back to weather related reasons. Now has something changed lately that we’re just having a lot more bad weather that’s not allowing planes to fly in land or they just figuring out they can use that as a reason and blaming it on whether or another reason? Because never in my life have I seen so many late flight cancellations redirection‘s etc. and my father flew weekly for 30 years and I’ve gotten plenty of plane rides in my life and never experienced anything like the last couple years. Or is it short staffed under qualified people and they use the weather as a scapegoat to get out of fucking up everybody schedules or something like that?
 
Thats a fairly lengthy discussion but ill try and keep it short.

The problem is all of the airlines are understaffed right now.

When a flight gets delayed for weather or mx that delay continues until that airplane/crew has a gap in scheduled flying or the crew times out for rest legality.

Under "normal" staffing the airline would call in a reserve crew that could pick up wherever the "timed out" crew left off And that flight gets completed by the reserve crew. When staffing is short there are little/no reserve crews to call out, they will cancel the flight due to the weather delay, when in reality if they had proper staffing levels the flight would get completed.

Airlines are not responsible for hotels/accommodation when the delay or cancelation is weather related because mother nature is out of their control. That said guess which flights are going to be selected to cancel and which they prioritize to complete.....
 
Flew on Monday, Newark to Chicago to Sioux Falls. Both flights left on time and arrived about 20 mins early. Besides the face mask (just used a gaiter) it was pretty much just like I remember from two years ago.

That was United from hub to hub and a United regional, though. No way you'd get me on a Frontier or Spirit right now, especially the ones that service a place only once or twice a week. United runs a full plane every 2 hours between Newark and Chicago. Heard about a shit load of people that got screwed over the weekend trying to do spring break stuff.

First class was nice too.
 
I would say understaffed and Pilots are probably tired of being called in on days off.

Noticing a theme of overworking people across all industries. Getting burned out employees causing turn over.
 
Pyleit said:
Thats a fairly lengthy discussion but ill try and keep it short.

The problem is all of the airlines are understaffed right now.

When a flight gets delayed for weather or mx that delay continues until that airplane/crew has a gap in scheduled flying or the crew times out for rest legality.

Under "normal" staffing the airline would call in a reserve crew that could pick up wherever the "timed out" crew left off And that flight gets completed by the reserve crew. When staffing is short there are little/no reserve crews to call out, they will cancel the flight due to the weather delay, when in reality if they had proper staffing levels the flight would get completed.

Airlines are not responsible for hotels/accommodation when the delay or cancelation is weather related because mother nature is out of their control. That said guess which flights are going to be selected to cancel and which they prioritize to complete.....
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The airlines delay the flight. American Airlines delayed my flight three hours multiple times on the same day to avoid paying any money. It wasn’t weather or staffing. It was hydraulics.
 
And the way it was struck down should open up civil rights violations against the govt. I hope anybody that was denied boarding or removed from a plane makes millions.
 
Don't get to happy...United so far is the only one to make a public statement, Both American and Delta are stating they are still following the CDC mandate...
 
mongosd2 said:
Don't get to happy...United so far is the only one to make a public statement, Both American and Delta are stating they are still following the CDC mandate...
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Alaska also, but I welcome the shit show that's gonna ensue. I hope it's complete chaos. Flying in two weeks on United so it'll be interesting, but likely things will be sorted by then, one way or another.

And American and Delta said that before United made their statement. Bet they pivot pretty quick, next day or two. Thinkin United did that just to be the 'see? It isn't us' company.
 
yeah, I'll let you know, on a delta flight tomorrow...
 
TSA announced they would stop enforcing. Nearly every major airline was begging Biden to drop the mandate just a few weeks ago. they have no reason to not stop immediately.
 
Flying delta and usually they will tell you to pull your mask over your nose. Noticed today they didn't say a word to anyone.
 
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