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Flying is a miserable experience nowadays

vetteboy79 said:
I just read something the other day about how TSA PreCheck is becoming a lot more popular, way more people are doing it, and there's some kinda legislation coming to make it free, so they're going to have to start adding more PreCheck lanes. What's next, PreCheck+?
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The entire north security station at denver is now precheck. Probably 8 xrays. So, roughly 50% of the capacity there is now precheck only. Takes about 3 minutes to get through. I'd say 45+ min in south security now.
 
Levigarrett76 said:
Can someone give cliffs on tsa pre-check vs regular security?

Ive always assumed its kind of a white collar deal where you pay to get thru faster?
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They do an enhanced background check on you so you don’t have to take shoes off or unpack your carry on and big for thing no X ray just detector.
 
XtremeJ said:
Only once the Feds drop the mandate though. They just kicked the can down the road to April, otherwise it would have expired this month. AS the airlines have followed the Fed through the whole scamdemic, I believe they will follow the Fed once the mask mandate is lifted. Can you imagine the chaos if Fed lifts the masks, most other airlines follow suit, and say Delta decides to keep the masks. I think they will see a lot of kickback.

Delta now hiring non-vaxx'd

Heathrow in London just dropped the mask requirement.

Most years I have a dozen or more flights by early March. So happy to not be travelling this year, not a single flight yet. Awesome.
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May be sooner than thought

Senate just passed bill to drop mask mandates, federal transportation, CDC was wrong, etc etc. Democrat poling must be even worse than we thought. Watch the election spin be - we cured Covid and did away with masks.

No linkslide. Was on Forbes Twitter feed
 
Kyle said:
They do an enhanced background check on you so you don’t have to take shoes off or unpack your carry on and big for thing no X ray just detector.
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This- run your prints, make sure you are not a weirdo - (hmm) then you can be approved. $85 for 5 years- not really white collar, more just if you fly more than once a year it is worth it.

That whole 2 hrs before your flight can be significantly reduced once you get a feel for security. On a rare occasion it still is backed up but on average I would say I am through in under 5 min.
 
Clear is different, as it's not part of TSA or .gov...you can sign up for it right away at the airport. Just answer a bunch of questions at the kiosk (they use whatever database it is like when you sign up for a credit card/loan/etc so it gives you a list of previous addresses you need to pick from, relative's names, etc), and it gets a few biometrics (eye scan, thumbprints, etc) and decides which one is most identifiable.

So at the security lane, you just go up to the kiosk (it uses thumbprints in my case), the Clear rep verifies that what comes up on the screen matches your boarding pass, and you go past TSA right to the xray.

It was a damn good sales pitch, honestly. I got to EWR and was looking at an hour+ in the regular line, the Clear rep saw the disappointment I had, and politely offered that in 5 minutes I could sign up, get activated immediately, and have a 3-month free trial. 6 minutes later I was at the xray.

It's more $$ than Precheck ($10/mo) but at that time I was flying 2-3 times a month, so who cares. That's less than $2 to skip the line. It's more than airports as well...stadiums, concert venues, etc. For stuff that needs it, you can upload a pic of your vax card and it'll add your status to the verification. (wink)

I guess there's an argument to be made about a 3rd party company having your ID and biometric stuff on file, but I don't care that much.
 
vetteboy79 said:
I guess there's an argument to be made about a 3rd party company having your ID and biometric stuff on file, but I don't care that much.
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At this point if they want it they have it already-

Clear is more and more popular now, for a while it was hit or miss depending on where you went. Global is my next go around- fucking hate waiting in customs for no good reason. Will have to see what is included when I need to re up. I think I still have a year or so on my Pre. Then again that is assuming the bottom does not drop out and we are back to carving stone wheels for our wagons soon
 
DozerDan82 said:
Clear is more and more popular now, for a while it was hit or miss depending on where you went.
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Yeah you won't find it at smaller/regional airports, but most of those the line isn't usually that bad anyway.

Of course about half of my flights at that time were to Charlotte, where they don't have it, but I had other tricks to get through there quickly anyway.

You can actually have both, with just Clear you still have to go through the standard screening (shoes off etc) but with Clear and Precheck they'll send you straight to the Pre screening. As I mentioned before about Pre becoming more widespread, might be worth keeping in mind.
 
I noped the fawk out of that when they wanted to scan fangerprints. Sorry, ain't gonna get got today bitch.
 
Mrs honkylips is currently 6 hours delayed in North Dakota. missed connecting flight and the new flight is delayed as well.

We have a trip to Florida in a few weeks. We arrive at 11:15 pm. They’ve changed flights/times 3 times so far. One had us landing in Florida at 1:30 in the morning. We have to call and re-reschedule flights each time. Jesus flying is unreliable and I’m over it.
 
Honky Lips said:
Mrs honkylips is currently 6 hours delayed in North Dakota. missed connecting flight and the new flight is delayed as well.

We have a trip to Florida in a few weeks. We arrive at 11:15 pm. They’ve changed flights/times 3 times so far. One had us landing in Florida at 1:30 in the morning. We have to call and re-reschedule flights each time. Jesus flying is unreliable and I’m over it.
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What shitty airline are you flying?
 
Delta can eat a dick, I'll never fly them again after the nightmare I dealt with in 2020 with them.

Every single flight to KC and back was delayed for hours or outright cancelled. Max hour layover turned into a 2 day trip out with an overnight in a hotel and the return flights ended up taking nearly 12 fucking hours total.
 
Honky Lips said:
Delta and southwest
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Delta? There’s your problem.
Motorcharge said:
Delta can eat a dick, I'll never fly them again after the nightmare I dealt with in 2020 with them.

Every single flight to KC and back was delayed for hours or outright cancelled. Max hour layover turned into a 2 day trip out with an overnight in a hotel and the return flights ended up taking nearly 12 fucking hours total.
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I learned approximately 20 years ago that they were garbage. I’m not sure why people still use them.
 
Aisin said:
Delta? There’s your problem.

I learned approximately 20 years ago that they were garbage. I’m not sure why people still use them.
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MCI in KC is tiny and has super limited options from Richmond unless you want a bunch of layovers. With all the covid bullshit though I'll drive before I fly again though.
 
I'm so glad I don't have to travel currently.
Flying out to the Canary Islands for 14 days next week though - not expecting any issues on a tourist flight though. (Except high winds at Arricife)
 
Kyle said:
They do an enhanced background check on you so you don’t have to take shoes off or unpack your carry on and big for thing no X ray just detector.
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I don't get how I can have background checks for working on the runways as well as Hazmat and TWIC and not be cleared through TSA.

Would be nice not having to pull my boots off. My back is fawked. Bending to untie and tie boots while trying to shuffle in the cattle runs is a PITA.
 
Ebs said:
I noped the fawk out of that when they wanted to scan fangerprints. Sorry, ain't gonna get got today bitch.
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Now imagine my suprise when customs didn't even need to see my passport because my face scanned face popped up in their system. I got got somewhere into big brothers facebook.
 
In Seattle…
 

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mongosd2 said:
In Seattle…
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Even in the most liberal areas here people are wising up a bit I think. After the governor announced the mask mandate was ending in 3 weeks mask wearing immediately went down by at least 70%. A lot of businesses took down their sign immediately too. :laughing:

Really can't wait to have this bullshit go away on the airline. The fact that I could go on a Monday list because I can't keep a mask on my 2 year old was a big source of stress for us.
 
Have you done the interview for pre-check? Fucking joke, 5 questions and verified my documents (passport card), took 15 minutes. No fingerprint check, if they did a background check they didn’t ask for contact info for anyone or work, Granted that was pre-Covid
 
Motorcharge said:
MCI in KC is tiny and has super limited options from Richmond unless you want a bunch of layovers. With all the covid bullshit though I'll drive before I fly again though.
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64 to the 70 and 16hr's.

I did that drive more than a few times in 2020.

I live 10 min from MCI, super easy to get in and out of. Would suck to get stuck there though. New terminal is almost done, then at least you'll have some newer floor to sleep on when you get bumped.
 
mongosd2 said:
Have you done the interview for pre-check? Fucking joke, 5 questions and verified my documents (passport card), took 15 minutes. No fingerprint check, if they did a background check they didn’t ask for contact info for anyone or work, Granted that was pre-Covid
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Pretty sure it’s a NICS check. Nothing special.
 
Honky Lips said:
Mrs honkylips is currently 6 hours delayed in North Dakota. missed connecting flight and the new flight is delayed as well.

We have a trip to Florida in a few weeks. We arrive at 11:15 pm. They’ve changed flights/times 3 times so far. One had us landing in Florida at 1:30 in the morning. We have to call and re-reschedule flights each time. Jesus flying is unreliable and I’m over it.
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Delta was completely messed up because Minneapolis had some weather.

on the plane in omaha at 5am, couldn't land at Minneapolis so we had to land in cedar rapids for fuel. Back on after fuel and went back to Minneapolis, missed connecting, next flight available was the next day. Got a flight to a different airport. Jumped in a rental and headed to my original airport. Done, home by 1130pm give or take time zones :barf:

I was in Minneapolis all day and it was hell for everyone. So many people running for planes. Spring break or something plane's are booked solid seems like, people are coming out of their caves and traveling.
 
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