well I guess now that the left changed the definition to incorporate the new therapeutic I guess maybe you’re right.….
Those sneaky fuckers. Buncha lawyers sat down and figured how to cover some ass.
well I guess now that the left changed the definition to incorporate the new therapeutic I guess maybe you’re right.….
Would you mind telling me if I regret getting the vaccine? Thanks.Now, let’s look at my point of why i believe you and others like you regret your decision.
I got this one...Would you mind telling me if I regret getting the vaccine? Thanks.
Agreed the brainwashing is obnoxious. I get why the little Gecko avatar dude is an angry lashing out little belly DraggerI can respect a well written response.
Now the main thing, on why this is a subject for us is the brainwashing that’s going on and how far they’re pushing it.
Pushed or required vaccines are stepping on our rights and ability to make a decision for ourselves. Leave us alone, give the option of “take it or leave it” and leave it at that. The subject would be dead by morning.
It’s entirely new and it’s experimental by definitionI got the Moderna. No regrets in getting it, I work in healthcare. After the first shot I had cotton mouth for about an hour and a sore shoulder, and a headache for a couple days. Not bad though. After the 2nd shot I was sore and tired for a couple days but thats it. Since pretty much all of my immediate family are healthcare workers in some form or another, they have all gotten it and had no side effects. Even my 90 yr old mother in law got it and had no side effects. So no regrets here.
It's just an MRNA vax. Nothing new or experimental. I've been forced to get the flu vax for years to be able to go to my hospital clinicals. It was either that or wear a mask all fucking day. Now it was either get the vax for covid or get a rapid Covid test before every shift. As it is, one of my current jobs lost my vax records and so did I. I had to get a rapid before every shift until I was able to get my proof of vax mailed to me soI could update employee health.
My uncle works in the film business here in NYC and gets paid $200 every time he gets tested and he ha to get tested before every shoot for every film set he is working on. He had to get tested 5 times one day. He's made tens of thousands of dollars just getting tested. I think he said the camera crews and grips get $400 or $500 each time they get tested and have to get tested the same amount as he does. So they are making bank. All paid by the production agency.
Not exactly apples to apples but Walmart is requiring the vaccine for their home office associates,Tyson is considering it and JB Hunt has basically labeled their unvaccinated. That obviously isn't the local, state or national government BUT when people say go and find another job, there are a few major businesses that have a pretty strong grip on Northwest Arkansas and at the state level. It seems like the government has taken a back seat but is just pushing these major players to force the population in a different fashion.No one here on the coast of California is forcing anyone to get the shot. It's pretty much take it or leave it. I figured we'd be about as hardcore as you could get when it comes to pushing getting the shot. Where in the US is all this being required?
So I guess that’s the biggest issue with all of this.Agreed the brainwashing is obnoxious. I get why the little Gecko avatar dude is an angry lashing out little belly Dragger
K...You can have the last word. One provisio. Has to be a gif :bender:
I guess we are at the point of name calling then. Ok **** Dont make me go all {gary} on you about reading comprehension
Trampas, fuck off.
I got the Moderna. No regrets in getting it, I work in healthcare. After the first shot I had cotton mouth for about an hour and a sore shoulder, and a headache for a couple days. Not bad though. After the 2nd shot I was sore and tired for a couple days but thats it. Since pretty much all of my immediate family are healthcare workers in some form or another, they have all gotten it and had no side effects. Even my 90 yr old mother in law got it and had no side effects. So no regrets here.
It's just an MRNA vax. Nothing new or experimental. I've been forced to get the flu vax for years to be able to go to my hospital clinicals. It was either that or wear a mask all fucking day. Now it was either get the vax for covid or get a rapid Covid test before every shift. As it is, one of my current jobs lost my vax records and so did I. I had to get a rapid before every shift until I was able to get my proof of vax mailed to me soI could update employee health.
My uncle works in the film business here in NYC and gets paid $200 every time he gets tested and he ha to get tested before every shoot for every film set he is working on. He had to get tested 5 times one day. He's made tens of thousands of dollars just getting tested. I think he said the camera crews and grips get $400 or $500 each time they get tested and have to get tested the same amount as he does. So they are making bank. All paid by the production agency.
Entirely new? You're funny.It’s entirely new and it’s experimental by definition
Entirely new, yes. You’re pretenda-dispute is really cute, if you were 11 years oldEntirely new? You're funny.
Come on, dumbfuck. Show me how it’s not entirely new.Entirely new? You're funny.
Not exactly apples to apples but Walmart is requiring the vaccine for their home office associates,Tyson is considering it and JB Hunt has basically labeled their unvaccinated. That obviously isn't the local, state or national government BUT when people say go and find another job, there are a few major businesses that have a pretty strong grip on Northwest Arkansas and at the state level. It seems like the government has taken a back seat but is just pushing these major players to force the population in a different fashion.
For the record, I'm not anti-vax but I am completely against being told either inject yourself with this and hope it is safe or join the unemployment line.
It's pretty new, especially if you compare mrna therapies to traditional vaccines:Entirely new? You're funny.
mRNA as Therapeutics
Messenger RNAs (mRNAs) serve as the intermediates between the coding genomic DNA and the encoded proteins (Gilbert, 1986). Essentially, mRNAs are transient blueprints of genes that are encoded in the genomic DNA. The mRNA transcripts of these genes deliver the genetic information to the translational machinery to generate the encoded proteins (Wolff et al., 1990; Conry et al., 1995). Wolff et al. (1990) were amongst the first to use exogenous mRNA to induce the expression of a protein in vivo. They injected synthetic mRNA encoding luciferase, chloramphenicol acetyltransferase, or beta-galactosidase into mouse skeletal muscle and detected proteins translated from these RNAs at the injection site. Importantly, the extent of expression from RNA was comparable to that obtained from injection of a DNA vector encoding the same proteins (Wolff et al., 1990). Jirikowski et al. (1992) demonstrated the therapeutic effect of mRNA in a rodent model of central diabetes insipidus. Brattleboro rats have a genetic deficiency of vasopressin. The investigators purified cytoplasmic mRNA from wild-type rat hypothalamus, or synthesized mRNA that encodes for vasopressin. Injection of either mRNA into the hypothalamus of Brattleboro rats induced the synthesis of vasopressin and transiently reversed diabetes insipidus (Jirikowski et al., 1992).
Synthetic or in vitro-translated mRNA is engineered to mimic naturally occurring mRNA (Jirikowski et al., 1992; Conry et al., 1995). It consists of a single-stranded open reading frame flanked by untranslated regions, and has a 5′ cap for translation, and a 3′ poly(A) tail for stability (Conry et al., 1995; Whisenand et al., 2017; Shin et al., 2018). Exogenous mRNA is translated into protein in the cytoplasm, and degrades within the cytoplasm typically within minutes to hours, posing no risk of integration into the genome. Figure 5 demonstrates systemically delivered mRNA expressing hepatic protein (An et al., 2017). Development and manufacturing of RNA therapeutics is relatively simple and a more cost-effective process comparing to that for recombinant proteins or small molecules. In addition, RNA sequences can be easily modified allowing for personalization of RNA therapy. There are several therapeutic modalities that utilize mRNA: (1) replacement therapy, where mRNA is administered to the patient to compensate for a defective gene/protein, or to supply therapeutic proteins; (2) vaccination, where mRNA encoding specific antigen(s) is administered to elicit protective immunity; (3) cell therapy, where mRNA is transfected into the cells ex vivo to alter cell phenotype or function, and then these cells are delivered into the patient.
So, the side that wants to have the choice to get it or not is just as annoying as the side that wants to use force and re- education camps to make everyone get the vaxI was meh about the shot, had a few friends who got COVID, general consensus was “ this shit sucks and you don’t want it” so I figured wtf and got shot. Moderna. Sore arm for first shot, about 24 hours of brain fog for 2nd and that’s it. No regrets
last 2 weeks I’ve had a cold/allergies/COVID. Just congestion and that’s about it. I feel no need to get tested
I don’t care if you get shot or not, both sides equally annoying
The side that wants to have the choice sits squarely in the middle. The sides on either end of the spectrum pedaling fear are annoying.So, the side that wants to have the choice to get it or not is just as annoying as the side that wants to use force and re- education camps to make everyone get the vax
That's some fucked up logic
It's pretty new, especially if you compare mrna therapies to traditional vaccines:
The Limitless Future of RNA Therapeutics
Review
Nat Rev Drug Discov
. 2018 Apr;17(4):261-279.
doi: 10.1038/nrd.2017.243.Epub 2018 Jan 12.
mRNA vaccines - a new era in vaccinology
Norbert Pardi 1, Michael J Hogan 1, Frederick W Porter 2, Drew Weissman 1
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- PMCID: PMC5906799
- DOI: 10.1038/nrd.2017.243
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mRNA vaccines represent a promising alternative to conventional vaccine approaches because of their high potency, capacity for rapid development and potential for low-cost manufacture and safe administration. However, their application has until recently been restricted by the instability and inefficient in vivo delivery of mRNA. Recent technological advances have now largely overcome these issues, and multiple mRNA vaccine platforms against infectious diseases and several types of cancer have demonstrated encouraging results in both animal models and humans. This Review provides a detailed overview of mRNA vaccines and considers future directions and challenges in advancing this promising vaccine platform to widespread therapeutic use
Yeah, i suppose i missed the mark on that one... maybe because i don't pay attention to the people saying that it will kill you, control you, or anything like that. If anything, it's the scarlet letter for when the aliens come to take us home... anyone with the vax will not be allowed on the star shipsThe side that wants to have the choice sits squarely in the middle. The sides on either end of the spectrum pedaling fear are annoying.
I don't care if you don't trust the shot, you don't need to justify it by telling me I'll probably die for getting it.
I also do care if you think the shot is your new savior that allows you to once again emerge from your COVID bunker, don't tell me I'm going to kill off the human race if I don't' get stabbed.
Pretty new? Relatively new? Sure. Entirely new? That's just funny. mRNA vaccines have been in development since the end of the 1980's.It's pretty new, especially if you compare mrna therapies to traditional vaccines:
I dont care if someone gets it or not. However when the government is blaming most everything wrong on those who choose not to get it, thats a big problem to me. To Trumps credit he was about choice. When it comes out if you want to get it great, if not great. But lets just open back up and start working again. Now our current administration is blaming the problems on the unvaccinated when the numbers that get censored say it makes almost no difference. The problem this creates is the large group of people that believe the government will never lie to them and they are the same ones pushing segregation of unvaccinated individuals.The side that wants to have the choice sits squarely in the middle. The sides on either end of the spectrum pedaling fear are annoying.
I don't care if you don't trust the shot, you don't need to justify it by telling me I'll probably die for getting it.
I also do care if you think the shot is your new savior that allows you to once again emerge from your COVID bunker, don't tell me I'm going to kill off the human race if I don't' get stabbed.
Yes. Entirely new. As in the first time it has ever been usedPretty new? Relatively new? Sure. Entirely new? That's just funny. mRNA vaccines have been in development since the end of the 1980's.
Bruh. Development doesn't mean it's working or safe. Let's compare to the traditional method of injecting a dead virus which has been around since the late 1800's. Shoot, we've had the flu vaccine out of development and administered to the general public since 1945.Pretty new? Relatively new? Sure. Entirely new? That's just funny. mRNA vaccines have been in development since the end of the 1980's.
Fair point. The government is good at blaming problems on scapegoats, that's nothing new. There are also always people who will blindly accept what the hear come out of the president's mouth, despite the fact that really all any president is trying to do is win a national popularity contest while not burning the US to the ground during their term(in that order of priorities).I dont care if someone gets it or not. However when the government is blaming most everything wrong on those who choose not to get it, thats a big problem to me. To Trumps credit he was about choice. When it comes out if you want to get it great, if not great. But lets just open back up and start working again. Now our current administration is blaming the problems on the unvaccinated when the numbers that get censored say it makes almost no difference. The problem this creates is the large group of people that believe the government will never lie to them and they are the same ones pushing segregation of unvaccinated individuals.
Those who dont want the vaccine are censored if they speek out with information at the government’s request. Those who think the vaccine should be mandatory are allowed to present their info with consent of of the government. Hard to present you views and be taken seriously if the government is telling the people you are wrong and need to be censored.
This is the biggest issue I see in the 2 sides. One is censored and on their own. The other is encouraged by the government.
Its the government directly violating the 1st amendment thats the problem. The right to free speech is to protect the people from the government, not protect people from what they dont want to hear.Fair point. The government is good at blaming problems on scapegoats, that's nothing new. There are also always people who will blindly accept what the hear come out of the president's mouth, despite the fact that really all any president is trying to do is win a national popularity contest while not burning the US to the ground during their term(in that order of priorities).
...how?Its the government directly violating the 1st amendment thats the problem. The right to free speech is to protect the people from the government, not protect people from what they dont want to hear.