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Did ya hear? Covid is over!

Anyone else notice how the liberal fucksticks that proudly supported all this shit, are now acting like they didn’t? :lmao::lmao::lmao:
 
Wonder if the "COVID/Pandemic Amnesty" campaign will return for those types to weasel out of being a complete cocksuckers
 
Fullsize80cherokee said:
it was a hoax from day one.. next time a new pandemic comes out and the symptoms are exactly the same as a seasonal cold or flu please turn off the social media or tv and use your brain..
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I’m with you to a certain extent. How do we explain the local small town nursing homes that lost 90% of their residents to an illness? Not just one home or two, several. Something that we haven’t seen before now killed those old people, and quickly. One home about 30 minutes north of me had a 90% loss. Another about 30 minutes NW lost enough to say screw it and close the doors. There’s several others that had similar losses. Those old people caught something that killed them, and this was before the vaccines.
 
This has nothing to do with Covid being over.
This is 100% only that federal funding for covid programs is ending, nothing more.
 
Tin Roof said:
I’m with you to a certain extent. How do we explain the local small town nursing homes that lost 90% of their residents to an illness? Not just one home or two, several. Something that we haven’t seen before now killed those old people, and quickly. One home about 30 minutes north of me had a 90% loss. Another about 30 minutes NW lost enough to say screw it and close the doors. There’s several others that had similar losses. Those old people caught something that killed them, and this was before the vaccines.
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Historically viruses get less severe and more contagious as they mutate. I'm pretty certain COVID also went that route. I know people who died from covid. I don't know anyone who died from the flu, although I'm sure that happened plenty of times.

I'm also not ashamed to say that I took precautions when it first hit because there was a lot we didn't know. Shoot, I remember reading prepper type posts in GCC with people bragging about how long they were going to be able to sustain at home if COVID started wiping everyone out. I wore an N95 mask to work before any mask mandates were a thing, washed my hands like crazy until research showed it was likely airborne rather than surface transmitted, and stayed away from people as much as I could in case things started to get crazy.
 
If you get the flu and don’t get treatment, the SOP for early Covid, it will kill you pretty quickly and efficiently. Long term care facilities have issues with pneumonia without other diseases because residents don’t move much and a lot are medically compromised. Covid was novel, an illness not seen before, but it was a variation of the flu, and if you don’t do anything or intubate, lots of people are gonna die.
 
I was visiting at one of the largest metro Detroit hospitals yesterday. After I got through security I took my mask off. Walked pretty much from one side of the hospital to the other when we went to the cafeteria. Lots of looks but no one said boo.
 
Tin Roof said:
I’m with you to a certain extent. How do we explain the local small town nursing homes that lost 90% of their residents to an illness? Not just one home or two, several. Something that we haven’t seen before now killed those old people, and quickly. One home about 30 minutes north of me had a 90% loss. Another about 30 minutes NW lost enough to say screw it and close the doors. There’s several others that had similar losses. Those old people caught something that killed them, and this was before the vaccines.
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anyone with an 02 level under 93% got intubated in nursing homes.. they were murdered to push media fear porn, they didn’t die of covid.
 
Fullsize80cherokee said:
anyone with an 02 level under 93% got intubated in nursing homes.. they were murdered to push media fear porn, they didn’t die of covid.
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That is absolutely incorrect. Ridiculously so to be honest.

There maybe some large cities that had shenanigans going on, but these small town facilities were not killing their residents. The workers know the families. The state was busting their asses because of the losses. One closed their doors.
Something made these old people sick and they died from it.
 
Tin Roof said:
That is absolutely incorrect. Ridiculously so to be honest.

There maybe some large cities that had shenanigans going on, but these small town facilities were not killing their residents. The workers know the families. The state was busting their asses because of the losses. One closed their doors.
Something made these old people sick and they died from it.
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Certainly, Sars is a bitch, always has been.

However, nothing justified the reactions and extreme fear and the media push. Add in a fuck ton of manipulation and Trillions of dollars.....it'll be 100 years before there can be honest reviews of it
 
Tin Roof said:
That is absolutely incorrect. Ridiculously so to be honest.

There maybe some large cities that had shenanigans going on, but these small town facilities were not killing their residents. The workers know the families. The state was busting their asses because of the losses. One closed their doors.
Something made these old people sick and they died from it.
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The health care workers thought they were saving the world by taking advice from fauci and the W.H.O. but it was anything but.
 
Fullsize80cherokee said:
The health care workers thought they were saving the world by taking advice from fauci and the W.H.O. but it was anything but.
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Again, I can only speak for what happened locally, in the beginning they were treating them like they had a flu or cold virus. The residents still died because this shit hit them hard. It caused severe respiratory distress, which just doesn't fare well with 80-90 year olds.

I still believe this was all over-hyped, but old people and unhealthy people died from whatever this virus was or whatever you want to call it. It was truly different than what we've seen in recent history.
 
Provience said:
Certainly, Sars is a bitch, always has been.

However, nothing justified the reactions and extreme fear and the media push. Add in a fuck ton of manipulation and Trillions of dollars.....it'll be 100 years before there can be honest reviews of it
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Exactly. There's two different issues here. The bullshit media/political game, and the fact that old and unhealthy people were dying from it but were used for political leverage.

It created two extremes. The people that wanted to and did lock themselves in their homes, and the ones that refuse to believe that there was any illness at all and it was all made up. Both are mentally ill. In the middle is those of us that realized something was getting people really sick, but believed that it was each individuals responsibility to asses the risk and protect themselves accordingly. Not force everyone else to change for them.
 
Spotted in the wild just now.

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Tin Roof said:
Exactly. There's two different issues here. The bullshit media/political game, and the fact that old and unhealthy people were dying from it but were used for political leverage.

It created two extremes. The people that wanted to and did lock themselves in their homes, and the ones that refuse to believe that there was any illness at all and it was all made up. Both are mentally ill. In the middle is those of us that realized something was getting people really sick, but believed that it was each individuals responsibility to asses the risk and protect themselves accordingly. Not force everyone else to change for them.
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Unfortunately the lock everybody up people are the government favored. Helps to have armed enforcers on the payroll to get your way.

While both extremes may be equally delusional, only 1 is dangerous
 
Tin Roof said:
Again, I can only speak for what happened locally, in the beginning they were treating them like they had a flu or cold virus. The residents still died because this shit hit them hard. It caused severe respiratory distress, which just doesn't fare well with 80-90 year olds.

I still believe this was all over-hyped, but old people and unhealthy people died from whatever this virus was or whatever you want to call it. It was truly different than what we've seen in recent history.
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what if they had not been denied HCQ or Ivermectin, which was the proper treatment that was suppressed because Trump said it was a good one.

also, they couldnt get the EUA on the kill shot vaccine if they had effective anti-virals. so they denied them.
 
Texas97 said:
what if they had not been denied HCQ or Ivermectin, which was the proper treatment that was suppressed because Trump said it was a good one.

also, they couldnt get the EUA on the kill shot vaccine if they had effective anti-virals. so they denied them.
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What if the virus was never released from a lab in China? What if we had closed borders when Trump wanted to? The what if game can go on indefinitely. Doesn't change the fact that early on people were dying regardless of political opinion.

It's been 3+ years, I don't remember if in late '19 or early '20 we had any idea that ivermectin or anything else would be effective?
 
Tin Roof said:
What if the virus was never released from a lab in China? What if we had closed borders when Trump wanted to? The what if game can go on indefinitely. Doesn't change the fact that early on people were dying regardless of political opinion.

It's been 3+ years, I don't remember if in late '19 or early '20 we had any idea that ivermectin or anything else would be effective?
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the virus came and no one could stop that. we could control how we handled it. the "experts" didnt know anything and they suppressed treatments. could they have saved lives? maybe but we wont know because they didnt want to save lives. People and businesses got paid for covid deaths and cases.

There's really no way to know if Covid killed those people in the nursing homes since the testing was so shitty and suspect, they manipulated it to show positive more often than not.
 
Provience said:
Unfortunately the lock everybody up people are the government favored. Helps to have armed enforcers on the payroll to get your way.

While both extremes may be equally delusional, only 1 is dangerous
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The second extreme was dangerous to old and at risk people. Just happened to impact a much smaller percentage of the population.
 
Fullsize80cherokee said:
it was a hoax from day one.. next time a new pandemic comes out and the symptoms are exactly the same as a seasonal cold or flu please turn off the social media or tv and use your brain..
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imho, It's full stupid to call covid a hoax, and it ruins your credibility.

Covid is a thing, its real.
It also did kill some people.

also true: the severity of the illness was massively overblown, and the government response was pathetic at best.
More importantly the government used this as an excuse to massively restrict everyone's freedoms. This is the major point we should all be concerned with.
 
Texas97 said:
the virus came and no one could stop that. we could control how we handled it. the "experts" didnt know anything and they suppressed treatments. could they have saved lives? maybe but we wont know because they didnt want to save lives. People and businesses got paid for covid deaths and cases.

There's really no way to know if Covid killed those people in the nursing homes since the testing was so shitty and suspect, they manipulated it to show positive more often than not.
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Nursing homes don't get paid if the beds are empty. Hence why some small ones had to close their doors.

How are they suppressing treatments if they don't know what they are treating? :homer:

Something killed those residents, and the people with heart issues, high blood pressure, diabetes, just fucking fat, etc. Call it covid, Biden's disease, whatever you want, but it existed and was deadly. We don't know a single person under 40 that got sick and died, but do know at least one in his 40's and several over 70. Whether it was from or with, from complications such as pneumonia that was common, whatever. They still died and it wasn't from the common cold.
 
Tin Roof said:
What if the virus was never released from a lab in China? What if we had closed borders when Trump wanted to? The what if game can go on indefinitely. Doesn't change the fact that early on people were dying regardless of political opinion.

It's been 3+ years, I don't remember if in late '19 or early '20 we had any idea that ivermectin or anything else would be effective?
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Texas97 said:
the virus came and no one could stop that. we could control how we handled it. the "experts" didnt know anything and they suppressed treatments. could they have saved lives? maybe but we wont know because they didnt want to save lives. People and businesses got paid for covid deaths and cases.

There's really no way to know if Covid killed those people in the nursing homes since the testing was so shitty and suspect, they manipulated it to show positive more often than not.
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There were several ways to go about dealing with the virus when it first happened. One way that the government favored(Took me a long time to realize this due to naivete) was to make the assumption that people couldn't be trusted to prevent the spread of the virus or take precautions themselves. Combine that with not enough information about how dangerous COVID was, or even how it spread and how different people's bodies reacted to it, and you've got lockdown panic. I used to think "The Experts" had enough information and were neutral enough politically to trust their recommendations. For me, the cracks started to show when suddenly they decreed that a cloth mask was just as good as an N95 mask for healthcare workers, but it took a lot more bullshit before I realized there was purposeful dishonesty happening.

The problem with the entire system was politics. The organizations that have the ability to get a proper bird's eye view of what's happening all over the country, and also have the resources to investigate and research a virus to give us a more clear picture of how it acts, how to treat it, and how to prevent its spread, are joined at the hip with politicians and large corporations looking for personal gain. Ivermectin became political because Trump suggested it. Same with temporarily closing our borders. On the flip side of things, social distancing definitely was a good idea if implemented properly, and the same can be said for masks. But the correct use of both were lost in the hyperbole of political grandstanding.
 
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Sandy Johnson said:
The problem with the entire system was politics. What we really needed was organizations that have the ability to get a proper bird's eye view of what's happening all over the country, and also have the resources to investigate and research a virus to give us a more clear picture of how it acts, how to treat it, and how to prevent its spread, are joined at the hip with politicians and large corporations looking for personal gain.
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The major lesson learned, for me, was that politicians are cowards. We see them as rabid power and influence graspers but when it comes down to make hard decisions and exercise that power, they push them off on unelected bureaucrats and then act like it is out of their hands. We can (ostensibly) vote out politicians who make the wrong decisions, we have little to no control over the permanent bureaucratic class.

ALL of the decisions made about covid on a national, state, and local level were political decisions. Sure we should hope that they were informed by scientific experts, but the decisions themselves should be made by the people that we (again ostensibly) have entrusted with the power to make these decisions and the consequences of being wrong.

Even the "state of emergency" stuff like the one coming to an end here, is sold as streamlining money and resources to give to the bureaucrats.
 
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MigGunslinger said:
The major lesson learned, for me, was that politicians are cowards. We see them as rabid power and influence graspers but when it comes down to making hard decisions and exercise that power, they push them off on unelected bureaucrats and then act like it is out of their hands. We can (ostensibly) vote out politicians who make the wrong decisions, we have little to no control over the permanent bureaucratic class.

ALL of the decisions made about covid on a national, state, and local level were political decisions. Sure we should hope that they were informed by scientific experts, but the decisions themselves should be made by the people that we (again ostensibly) have entrusted with the power to make these decisions and the consequences of being wrong.

Even the "state of emergency" stuff like the one coming to an end here, is sold as streamlining money and resources to give to the bureaucrats.
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Some day my kids or grandkids will get to watch a documentary that discloses who's pockets got lined during the "crisis", including private businesses that were able to take advantage of available funds and manipulated the system.

Our tiny little rural school district has somewhere around $800k in covid relief funding that we need to use up. We used some to pay bonuses to staff that kept working during covid, some for cleaning supplies, and have a few hundred grand that we can put towards an HVAC upgrade we are doing because it qualifies due to being an improvement in classroom air quality. :laughing: We can't just use it on anything, it has to fit within certain guidelines.

If we got close to a mill, how much is getting filtered through big city districts?
 
Sandy Johnson said:
The second extreme was dangerous to old and at risk people. Just happened to impact a much smaller percentage of the population.
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Fuck no it wasn't.

The wordt thing the hoax people claimed was to be left the fuck alone. High risk could always live however they wanted even surrounded by hoaxers
 
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