CL/marketplace interaction/ negotiation tactics (BaT thread hgtd reboot/ spinoff)

[Splib]

Anyone who throws an offer w/o actually seeing the item is usually FOS or tries to treat their offer as a new asking price to be negotiated down…

FOS

Great, a new one.

 

[Slander]

The few times I sell shit, I price it to good to haggle over price. I don’t even respond to offers lower or what’s your bottom price. Fuck off. It’s priced to leave my place in the next day or two. I hate having to deal with shitbags trying to nickel and dime me.
Sold two new wilwood masters for $100 because I was sick of em sitting on my work bench and knew if I put them up on the shelves of forever collecting dust. I’d die with em. Guy bought em within an hour and knew he was getting a smoking deal. I felt good they would actually end up on someone’s buggy.

Same!

 

[desertPOS]

Congrats. You just negotiated with yourself.

This. I just tell people I'm not going to negotiate with myself. Or, "If no one gives me my asking price, I'm throwing it in the trash and no-one gets to have it."

One of the best buying strategies I've heard was from a buddy of mine years ago - get a cheap craigslist hooker to go with you and pretend to be your wife, show up and offer, "If you'll take half your asking price, I'll have my wife suck you off behind your garage." Profit

 

[Lawless]

This. I just tell people I'm not going to negotiate with myself. Or, "If no one gives me my asking price, I'm throwing it in the trash and no-one gets to have it."

One of the best buying strategies I've heard was from a buddy of mine years ago - get a cheap craigslist hooker to go with you and pretend to be your wife, show up and offer, "If you'll take half your asking price, I'll have my wife take you back behind your garage and blow you." Profit

No.

I actually had a hooker do just that when she tried to buy a truck I was selling, ain't no way you are worth the 500 you are asking me to discount my price.

 

[Lawless]

Oh, Just remembered a couple of ads I've seen lately.

Hey everyone I am selling my XYZ car, it's in great shape and priced for a quick sale.

$3500 OBO but the least I'll take is $2250.

It makes me wonder if stupid people know they are stupid.

 

[Takotruckin]

maybe it is a generational thing
I don't talk price until I have:
1. seen the item
2. Can talk to the owner face to face

I’m the same way, with the exception of my GX I bought. It was 5 hours away and I had set myself a firm budget, I talked to the seller on the phone for a while and ended the call with if you’ll take X I’ll make arrangements and drive down in a few days. He told me he had someone else that had already driven it and would give them a day to make a decision. The next day he called me back and told me we had a deal.

X might have been 5 or 10% below his asking price, but it was a fair deal for both of us.

 

[WTF?]

Oh, Just remembered a couple of ads I've seen lately.

Hey everyone I am selling my XYZ car, it's in great shape and priced for a quick sale.

$3500 OBO but the least I'll take is $2250.

It makes me wonder if stupid people know they are stupid.

A select few of these brainiacs seem to think obo is an auction and $2250 is their opening bid. I’ve messaged more than one of these marketing phenoms with I’ll give you [ insert whatever ‘lowest I’ll take is $xxx.’ ]. And they go, thanks but I already have an offer of say $200 over lowest. And I say oh so it’s sold and they say no, I want more offers..

 

[JR4X]

I do NOT enjoy the haggle. I don’t like people that aren’t my people. I rarely sell anything because I can’t stand communicating with annoying mouth breathers.

Today I have a whole bunch of brand new tires for sale priced way less than store price. Ad says no trades, no shipping. And I’m fielding a whole bunch of tool bags wanting them shipped or to know if I’ll take less. I think I’ve got em sold but I still don’t like it. Talking with 29 Dick bags to find the two humans that just want to come buy the shit is not a good trade off.

 

[Lawless]

I do NOT enjoy the haggle. I don’t like people that aren’t my people. I rarely sell anything because I can’t stand communicating with annoying mouth breathers.

Today I have a whole bunch of brand new tires for sale priced way less than store price. Ad says no trades, no shipping. And I’m fielding a whole bunch of tool bags wanting them shipped or to know if I’ll take less. I think I’ve got em sold but I still don’t like it. Talking with 29 Dick bags to find the two humans that just want to come buy the shit is not a good trade off.

I am the same as you, Price firm and no trades. I get a message with an offer or a trade I just delete it, I don't even waste my time with a response. It's funny how angry some of them get when you mark the item as sold, sometimes I'll even do it just for fun.

 

[Projectjunkie]

I buy a fair amount of stuff a ways from home and make the deal beforehand "if it is what you say it is ill pay xxxx"
When I get there I don't renegotiate. But if it's not as advertised, we walk or renegotiate.

Example, I drove an hour or better, bringing a buddy, to buy a sequoia from the original owner, price negotiated. Get there and it wasn't as described. Miles good, clean title, original owner. Forgot to mention his teenage son took it out in the desert and lightly rolled it on its side. I kinda think dad didn't know it.

I was walking away and he wanted a get out the fuck out of here offer, he got one, I took it home and bought the correct one later in the week and flipped that one

I've shipped cars sight unseen, I've had people fly in and drive trucks home, prices settled beforehand


In with 2big, I'll send a pic of my truck and trailer, and sometimes a picture of cash with today's date.

I haven't had anybody tell me they were offended by it.

I've also bought a handful of running driving parts vehicles that I had people drive 2 hours to me, my lowball offer was sent with a pic of cash. I'll give you $300 and pick it up, or 550 in my driveway (5.0 explorer) 1200 in my driveway (6.0 denali) 2000 in my driveway (v10 nv4500 4x4 dodge). It makes it 100 miles, I give it a 10 minute test drive and trade paper

I think some people just make it harder than it needs to be

 

[Provience]

A select few of these brainiacs seem to think obo is an auction and $2250 is their opening bid. I’ve messaged more than one of these marketing phenoms with I’ll give you [ insert whatever ‘lowest I’ll take is $xxx.’ ]. And they go, thanks but I already have an offer of say $200 over lowest. And I say oh so it’s sold and they say no, I want more offers..

I've seen that too, it's hilarious

 

[Yota Up]

FB: "Is this still available?"
Me: "Sure is, come and get it."
FB: "Not interested!"

Sometimes they'll just give me a thumbs up after I say I still got it and then ghost.

okey dokey

 

[Provience]

Drive 100 miles and then 10 minutes test drive? Shit, I prefer to not bother with a test drive. If I buy it, just wasting my own gas

 

[Provience]

FB: "Is this still available?"
Me: "Sure is, come and get it."
FB: "Not interested!"

Sometimes they'll just give me a thumbs up after I say I still got it and then ghost.

okey dokey

Facebook is neat because that's the default message and gets sent in error often

 

[Projectjunkie]

Drive 100 miles and then 10 minutes test drive? Shit, I prefer to not bother with a test drive. If I buy it, just wasting my own gas

Eh, make sure it's not overheating, knocking, find a dirt lot and sit a few 4wd figure 8s. When I've had them delivered like that, they were all as described

 

[Squamch]

maybe it is a generational thing
I don't talk price until I have:
1. seen the item
2. Can talk to the owner face to face

I will often ask if they are firm on price, and say that I don't want to waste either of ours time. Also don't like to make offers not in person, depending on the item. I'll make an offer on shit that can't really be not as described...wrenches, a bumper, etc. But I don't wanna make an offer, then have a closer look and withdraw it.

 

[rockdog57]

I do NOT enjoy the haggle. I don’t like people that aren’t my people. I rarely sell anything because I can’t stand communicating with annoying mouth breathers.

Today I have a whole bunch of brand new tires for sale priced way less than store price. Ad says no trades, no shipping. And I’m fielding a whole bunch of tool bags wanting them shipped or to know if I’ll take less. I think I’ve got em sold but I still don’t like it. Talking with 29 Dick bags to find the two humans that just want to come buy the shit is not a good trade off.

I total agree! I bought a truck bed full of stickies from a solid guy in Grand Junction. No I’m not going to talk him down. He had em priced at a reasonable price. Deal done. And met a new contact in the hobby.

 

[Squamch]

A select few of these brainiacs seem to think obo is an auction and $2250 is their opening bid. I’ve messaged more than one of these marketing phenoms with I’ll give you [ insert whatever ‘lowest I’ll take is $xxx.’ ]. And they go, thanks but I already have an offer of say $200 over lowest. And I say oh so it’s sold and they say no, I want more offers..

Holy fuck. The "OBO means I want bids" drives me nuts.

 

[TRINDU]

Facebook is neat because that's the default message and gets sent in error often

Hundreds of messages sent, and I've never done that in error (or on purpose).

I block anyone who sends that. It's easier in the long run.

 

[Provience]

Hundreds of messages sent, and I've never done that in error (or on purpose).

I block anyone who sends that. It's easier in the long run.

I've done it several times trying to share links, trying to go back, dealing with a TouchPad and a touchscreen all kinds of stuff

 

[Stingray]

I'm learning most people don't read the ads, they read the item and price, and fire off either...... is it still available, or will you take ???

If I get a question, its usually already answered in the body of the ad.

I try and start any ad with if it's up it's still available,

and for cars I ad, Cash only, no cashiers checks, no shippers. in person transactions only.

Selling a truck for $3k getting an offer for $1800 CASH like that's a prize???

did you plan on financing this $3k purchase?

 

[Provience]

I don't get the whole if it's up it's available thing.

Hell, I was just looking at an ad that was 4 years old. If a message goes out, just take it down, no need to respond

 

[desertPOS]

I do NOT enjoy the haggle. I don’t like people that aren’t my people. I rarely sell anything because I can’t stand communicating with annoying mouth breathers.

Today I have a whole bunch of brand new tires for sale priced way less than store price. Ad says no trades, no shipping. And I’m fielding a whole bunch of tool bags wanting them shipped or to know if I’ll take less. I think I’ve got em sold but I still don’t like it. Talking with 29 Dick bags to find the two humans that just want to come buy the shit is not a good trade off.

I might be interested. Willing to ship?

 

[Wilson]

I’ve had all kinds of experiences, but read through this looking (in particular) for 2BB’s insight. I’ve been on a run of (what should be simple deals with no follow through, bailing or the very seldom (I’m holding it for a guy).
I’m currently looking for a particular camper ($18-30k deal) and expect to drive 8+ hrs when I find one. I’m getting my shit together (cash in hand, tie-downs on the truck), and will most likely make an initial offer that I’m willing to drive for and back it up with a picture like 2bb described. If it’s not as advertised, I’ll walk or take a steep discount.

 

[TRINDU]

I’ve had all kinds of experiences, but read through this looking (in particular) for 2BB’s insight. I’ve been on a run of (what should be simple deals with no follow through, bailing or the very seldom (I’m holding it for a guy).
I’m currently looking for a particular camper ($18-30k deal) and expect to drive 8+ hrs when I find one. I’m getting my shit together (cash in hand, tie-downs on the truck), and will most likely make an initial offer that I’m willing to drive for and back it up with a picture like 2bb described. If it’s not as advertised, I’ll walk or take a steep discount.

there's no sense of sending an obscure pic of dollar bills. Just communicate in a clear fashion you will pay in cash.

Or take pics of your truck, tire tread, gas gauge, and W2 to really drive the point home

 

[Takotruckin]

FB: "Is this still available?"
Me: "Sure is, come and get it."
FB: "Not interested!"

Sometimes they'll just give me a thumbs up after I say I still got it and then ghost.

okey dokey

Facebook is neat because that's the default message and gets sent in error often

I realized that when I was shopping bikes a while back, something about my phone (IOS) and how I was scrolling it would accidentally hit the send button without me even realizing it until they replied. Now I have to consciously scroll through the ad making sure my finger stays the hell away from the send button.

 

[trampas]

Ok i'll bite.

I hate selling to people in person but not because they're people but because they're douchebags. I hate selling to douchebags because some of the douchebags i've sold to (or even bothered with but did not complete a transaction) are some of the biggest douchebags i've ever encountered. In life. Period.

How can so many people selling so much stuff all over the country (that has to be picked up/cannot reasonably ship) interact with so many fuckin douchebags and just roll on through to the next fuckin douchebag meetup to sell something else is amazing to me. A feat. Period.

I can't be alone in this. Is selling in person NOT to encounter douchebags even possible? These are the same tools that hit 'send' on the email/text that had you wondering "how in god's world is it possible that you're that much of a douchebag" anyway?

I don't sell much locally because i have to filter out every single response with a douchebag screening process... and i'm still amazed when a polite response comes from yet, another "are you crazy" douchebag when they show up and a switch gets flipped into douchebag mode.

I'm with JR4X all the way. FAWK you ppl.

 

[Steve300xcw]

It really varies person by person.
But for the most part if you want to lowball me without ever laying eyes on it..you can get fucked

If you find the need to explain why you feel your lowball offer on the unseen item is justified...you can get fucked

Your location means jackshit to me, that is not my problem

 

[trampas]

there's no sense of sending an obscure pic of dollar bills. Just communicate in a clear fashion you will pay in cash.

Or take pics of your truck, tire tread, gas gauge, and W2 to really drive the point home

Go ahead, be in that camp.

When i'm buying something high dollar and realize i will have competition that may even go higher than ask, i will do it/have done it.

I sent pics of monies to a guy selling a $34k motorhome because i wanted that one something fierce. 2 hrs later he drove over 110 miles from the high desert and delivered it to me.

ymmv

 

[TRINDU]

Go ahead, be in that camp.

When i'm buying something high dollar and realize i will have competition that may even go higher than ask, i will do it/have done it.

I sent pics of monies to a guy selling a $34k motorhome because i wanted that one something fierce. 2 hrs later he drove over 110 miles from the high desert and delivered it to me.

ymmv

$34k meth lab is high dollar? You're definitely the douchebag