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There there are the retards that drive 1-1/2 hours for a 50.00 item and sit there and insult you

Typically, I just ask them where they drove from, ask how long it took
Then take the item, and tell them that it isn't for sale, and they watch me throw it in the trash
followed by 'have a nice trip, what is that..... three hours round trip?':grinpimp:
 
SomeGuyFromOlympia said:
There there are the retards that drive 1-1/2 hours for a 50.00 item and sit there and insult you

Typically, I just ask them where they drove from, ask how long it took
Then take the item, and tell them that it isn't for sale, and they watch me throw it in the trash
followed by 'have a nice trip, what is that..... three hours round trip?':grinpimp:
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We had some guys drive down from montana to buy a transfer. They threw out a lowball offer, boss told em to fuck off and went back in his office:lmao:
 
I can only think of a couple times I have ever paid asking price and one time I paid over asking price for an item.

Typically, I wait until I can pick up the item that day or the day after and say, "I'll give you xxx and can be there today." This offer is close to the max I will pay for said item to leave marginal wiggle room. This works for me 9 times out of 10. If they don't accept my offer, I will watch the item and wait a few weeks and offer them the same offer again. I have about a 50/50 success rate with the second attempt. If this doesn't work, then the deal just isn't going to happen and I move on.

Very rarely they will reach back out later with a counter offer after my second attempt fails, but I usually have already bought an alternative by that point and will just lowball them harder with another counter offer. Rarely works, but when it does it works well.
 
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On the selling side, I am usually selling complete vehicles between $5-15k. I post fair prices with KBB and/or NADA data backing them and usually get what I am asking or just slightly below. Once I have a vehicle listed, I want to move it within 2-3 weeks at the most, otherwise they become much harder to sell. I will negotiate over text or in-person, neither bothers me. What does bother me is when someone shows up, does a test drive, takes an hour or two of my time and then reveals they don't have the money. GTFO
 
I'm in the hate buying and selling stuff camp. Fuck haggling. Like said, I don't need to do either. If you have something listed for a fair price, and I want it, done and I'll be there as soon as I can to pick it up. Selling...I would rather give it away to a friend or scrap it before dicking around with someone who wants to try and get another hundred bucks off what's already a bargain.

See also - show up with the proper amount of money in your pocket, always. If I've got something listed for $1500 and you show up with $1499 because that's all the money you have, fuck off and have fun paying that round trip fuel bill to return with an empty trailer. Bonus points if you play the buddy game and ask the guy who came with you if he's got an extra couple bucks in his pocket...I'm sorry buddy, your friend is shit.
 
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Drove 30 minutes to meet a guy passing thru the area I was selling beadlock rings, he looks at them for 5 minutes and offers me half, said that was all the money he had......my buddy laughed at him and I just put them back in the car, he texted me another offer as we were driving back, I just ignored him, gotta be close on the first offer, I don't use firm or OBO i may pad the price a bit for good stuff otherwise its already priced to move.

my worst one was meeting a guy from one of the south African countries to sell him a cell phone, sold it to him at my price , but took 40 minutes and I had to turn around while driving home ..........he spoke better English than the Chinese couple did that bought another phone , had to use a phone to translate.
 
Projectjunkie said:
I buy a fair amount of stuff a ways from home and make the deal beforehand "if it is what you say it is ill pay xxxx"
When I get there I don't renegotiate. But if it's not as advertised, we walk or renegotiate.

Example, I drove an hour or better, bringing a buddy, to buy a sequoia from the original owner, price negotiated. Get there and it wasn't as described. Miles good, clean title, original owner. Forgot to mention his teenage son took it out in the desert and lightly rolled it on its side. I kinda think dad didn't know it.

I was walking away and he wanted a get out the fuck out of here offer, he got one, I took it home and bought the correct one later in the week and flipped that one

I've shipped cars sight unseen, I've had people fly in and drive trucks home, prices settled beforehand


In with 2big, I'll send a pic of my truck and trailer, and sometimes a picture of cash with today's date.

I haven't had anybody tell me they were offended by it.

I've also bought a handful of running driving parts vehicles that I had people drive 2 hours to me, my lowball offer was sent with a pic of cash. I'll give you $300 and pick it up, or 550 in my driveway (5.0 explorer) 1200 in my driveway (6.0 denali) 2000 in my driveway (v10 nv4500 4x4 dodge). It makes it 100 miles, I give it a 10 minute test drive and trade paper

I think some people just make it harder than it needs to be
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The problem is that the pic of cash is always attached to a lowball offer. You dont do that shit when you want $50 off, do you?
 
When i was selling my towdolly with an asking price of $1500 a few years back, someone offered me 1250 and said they were coming from Ohio. I accepted. They showed up with $1100 and said he had spent the other 150 on gas to get here. I explained that we has agreed on 1250 and now he had broken the agreement so it was back to $1500. This financial wizard went back to ohio and picked up the other 400. He showed back up at the shop and bought it. I always have wondered if i had it priced way low or if he was a fool.
 
My other favorite. People thinking I’m a scammer for pricing my stuff so low. My racer is built from a badlands Bronco. I beat up the factory modular bumpers on it that that all the base model owning tool bags want. For a while people were selling the modular front bumpers for over a thousand bucks.

I took pictures of mine scratched to shit. Laying in the dirt. Priced it for $150 bucks no shipping. I got booted off of one of the bronco pages because someone reported me as a scammer. I got reinstated. The only legit people who wanted it only want it if I’ll ship it. :homer:

Edit: I should’ve put it up for $900 and been indignant about the scratches. Probably would got low balled to $500 and somebody would have come and got it.
 
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Projectjunkie said:
Eh, make sure it's not overheating, knocking, find a dirt lot and sit a few 4wd figure 8s. When I've had them delivered like that, they were all as described
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Toyota problems.

Much less money to be made lying about the condition of a beater car that few people who aren't prepared to wrench are buying anyway.
 
DMG said:
When i was selling my towdolly with an asking price of $1500 a few years back, someone offered me 1250 and said they were coming from Ohio. I accepted. They showed up with $1100 and said he had spent the other 150 on gas to get here. I explained that we has agreed on 1250 and now he had broken the agreement so it was back to $1500. This financial wizard went back to ohio and picked up the other 400. He showed back up at the shop and bought it. I always have wondered if i had it priced way low or if he was a fool.
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$1500 is not cheap for a tow dolly. He's a fool for paying it.
 
JR4X said:
My other favorite. People thinking I’m a scammer for pricing my stuff so low. My racer is built from a badlands Bronco. I beat up the factory modular bumpers on it that that all the base model owning tool bags want. For a while people were selling the modular front bumpers for over a thousand bucks.

I took pictures of mine scratched to shit. Laying in the dirt. Priced it for $150 bucks no shipping. I got booted off of one of the bronco pages because someone reported me as a scammer. I got reinstated. The only legit people who wanted it only want it if I’ll ship it. :homer:

Edit: I should’ve put it up for $900 and been indignant about the scratches. Probably would got low balled to $500 and somebody would have come and got it.
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I sold the stock steel bumper off my Wrangler. Had it listed for $200. The ad had pictures of the bumpers actual condition, meaning a few scratches.

Guy texts me "I'll be in Denver to visit my dad on Saturuday. I'll pick it up for $100"
I texted back "If you bring $150 on Saturday it's yours."

Guy shows up, we put the bumper and accompanying red dirt in the back of his car, he gives me cash, web art ways.

A month later he asks me when the end caps for the bumper are. On my Jeep. Do you have any idea how much they are? No, I never shopped for them.
Well I think you should send me those. I had to pay a lot of money to get the bumper refirbished before I put it on my Jeep.
Well, you had the chance to look at it when you picked it up, the add had pictures of the bumper when you made the offer. And if you wanted a new bumper I bet that with what you paid me and what you spent to refurbish it you're still under what Jeep would have charged you for a new one.
 
DMG said:
...he had spent the other 150 on gas to get here. .... This financial wizard went back to ohio and picked up the other 400.
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DMG said:
I always have wondered if i had it priced way low or if he was a fool.
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it was definitely, 100%, beyond the shadow of a doubt the latter option. so you can rest easy now.


edit: and 1500 for a used one?!?!:eek: A brand new master tow with the electric brake pkg is like $1900+ tax from the dealer now in hyper-inflation clown land.

in the world i grew up in, used tow dollies are $750 or less, and that's why you buy them because you can't touch a roadworthy car trailer for that money and its only a dozen or so u-haul dolly rentals away from approximate breakeven on purchase price.
 
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rockota said:
Sold a set of IS300 wheels about a decade ago.

$300.

Buyer: I only need one. How much?
Me: $300 and you get 3 free.
Buyer: It should only be $75...
Me: $300 and you get 3 free.
Buyer: rants about me being unfair.
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that conversation after 'it should only be..' did not need to extend any further than 'good luck with your search.'

its about the same for the guys who want you to lower the price because they have to drive far or make 2 trips.

the idiots will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience..
 
WTF? said:
the idiots will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience..
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As if that's not exactly what all the fuckwads in here talking about being skillful sellers are doing? :lmao:

They're two sides of the same stupid coin.
 
Nowadays in clown world if I need it, and its a "fair" price, I pay asking price.

If I want it but don't neeeed it I haggle before heading out to buy.

If I need to sell it I scrap it, throw it away or hoard it because I have no patience for dealing with idiot buyers and barely have any for the hoops half the idiot sellers make me jump thru cause they have to make it waaay more complicated than it needs to be.
 
Had a guy recently buy a tote of dirt bike parts. He came by to verify it was what he needed and would come back next week with cash. We settled on $500.

Dude shows up with $400. Yea bro, that's not the deal. He ended up sending the rest via whatever app but it was fucking aggravating.

My woman recognized the guy from high school, apparently he owns an apartment building in town, so not a total loser by any stretch.


Me personally, I tend to not make an offer unless I'm looking at something in person. Now when I was shopping for my skid steer, I did throw out a few offers with the "I have cash and trailer and can come right now" line. Funny how those machines were still listed weeks later with the price creeping down to what I had offered.
 
For me half of the battle is to get people to show up, and then actually show up on time.

I'll tell people show up at 10am and i'll give you $1 off for every minute you're early, and I'm adding $1 for every minute you're late
 
one transaction I learned my lesson on- if you really desire a title for a vehicle purchase of $5k or less, and it's not on hand/ ordered at the dmv in your presence; 98% of the time you should walk away.

Make initial contact, sounds like a driveable parts rig and possibly repair and flip. seller comes off as a child of semi-affluent parents who's trying to get his shit together and move out of state 'title's at my moms house, she lives across town i'll grab it on the way to our meetup' so we discuss a price and set a meeting time.

I show up with truck and trailer about 5 min early to the meeting spot which is in front of a house in marginal neighborhood which has eviction notices plastered everywhere and appears to be vacant, and not a soul in sight. Then 10 min after meeting time still no show, so i call and it goes straight to voicemail. 25 min late he calls back as i'm hopping in the drivers seat to leave and says he's 10 min away and sorry, phone died.

shows up almost 30 min later after saying 10 min away, vehicle is much worse than advertised driver condition; steel on steel braking on all 4 corners etc, and no title; his mom put it in the safe deposit box at the bank. I should have walked, but i'm here and now have 2 hrs tied up in this, so my offer goes down by half, and i'm holding $250 back until he gives me the title, agreed to be within 48-72 hrs. ( i got his moms contact info who vouches for his story and seems pleasant and believable enough. )
I did all this in a hurry because it was getting dark and i didn't really want to be loading alone in the dark in front of repo house, as i'm strapping down a truck i have only a handwritten bill of sale for and it dawns on me no real concrete assurance that the buy here pay here repo man isn't going to come by looking for also :laughing:.

guy then proceeds to pester me for small drips of the withheld funds for gas money after he sends photo of title in hand- just sketchy shit off the chart, he tells me to meet him at x location 40 min from me in an hour for title handoff- I show up to what turns out to be a mexi-mart prepaid phone store 5 min early and nothing- phones straight to voicemail again... after 20 min i give up and go have a beer and a taco while i'm in the area.

on my way home an hour later as the sun has set, fuming/ accepting that i'm going to have to quarter this suburban carcass up after i pick it clean to scrap it, since no title he calls from his now un-dead phone to meet him at a no-tell motel 6 i passed by about 3 miles ago. i tell him his ass better be standing in the parking lot when I get there with title in hand and i'll chuck cash out the window as i drive by. I actually stopped the car for a minute to lecture/yell at him in this parking lot that could have been a scene out of Next Friday or Don't be a Menace,:mr-t: but it definitely wasnt a place i was going to voluntarily exit my vehicle alone at night. and to his credit, he was seemingly genuinely apologetic

take away: I got my title but i should have just walked and eaten the $40 in gas and 2.5 hrs wasted. I willfully buried my head in the sand on a few too many glaring red flags along the way, and am fortunate i made it through the ordeal without becoming a party to a stabbing or shooting incident. :homer:


Oh and 2-3 weeks later he sends me a text with a red light camera ticket image and tells me I owe him for this infraction on the test drive. ( on my drive that was only long enough to see the trans shift through at least 3 gears, i did run a dark yellow- because no brake pads & all.) but the date on the ticket was 2 days before i met him and several miles away from where we drove, so i told him to kick rocks.
 
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recent trend observed in many facebook sellers wanting to release address information only mere minutes before arranged pickup time.

While i'm fully on board with not giving an address days in advance for would-be stalkers/thieves to case the joint, you could at least give me an hour or 2 so i know where to go and that the sellers not going to ghost me at the 11th hour.


I've recently accepted that if i'm not comfortable giving some particular potential buyer my address, either i just need to tell them its not available, or just pawn/ throw/give it away. I've got no time/patience for meet-up location sales as a seller.
 
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