CL/marketplace interaction/ negotiation tactics (BaT thread hgtd reboot/ spinoff)

[DMG]

Currently working on coaxing a counteroffer out of another seller with an 'OBO' contained in their listing. they just responded to ' would you accept (20% below asking)?' with 'no thanks'.

if you don't fawking want to negotiate, then don't list it OBO...

These may be the dipshits that think you will offer more than their asking price

 

[Mr Priceless]

Fuck these brokers polluting the listing feed with the same fucking components as what could be found 3 scrolls down. Then lying about the address they drop ship from

 

[welndmn]

Currently working on coaxing a counteroffer out of another seller with an 'OBO' contained in their listing. they just responded to ' would you accept (20% below asking)?' with 'no thanks'.

if you don't fawking want to negotiate, then don't list it OBO...

Sometimes I just tell people "no" without a counter, it all depends on my mood and how the person asked.

 

[Penetrode Offroad]

Sometimes I just tell people "no" without a counter, it all depends on my mood and how the person asked.

Thats cue for them to counter your counter. Ok, you didnt like 20% below, how about 10% below?

 

[Lawless]

Sometimes I just tell people "no" without a counter, it all depends on my mood and how the person asked.

Same here, if you're in the ballpark I'll give back a counter otherwise it's a "no" or maybe a "no thanks" if I am feeling generous.

 

[TRINDU]

Sometimes I just tell people "no" without a counter, it all depends on my mood and how the person asked.

Yep. I try not to inflate prices, but understand people need to think they've won.

$20K truck and you offer $16k? You'll most likely get blocked with no response.

$1000 part and you offer $800? I might take $900. All depends how it was worded.

 

[Ransil]

My last Face space sale worked out.

Sold some beadlock rings to a guy 5 states away ,I would deliver them to him in 2 months ....got paid right away, then needed to rework a harness from a friend so I had face space dude meet friend to grab the harness to relay it to me, then needed some wiring and stuff to rework the harness so mailed it to face space dudes address.

Everything worked out

 

[WTF?]

Did you try 10% below offering?

I didn't. But after asking what her minimum acceptable offer was in response to her 'no thanks' she threw out 12.5% below asking and her minimum acceptable amount.

which just goes to support my hesitance to shotgun out offers for more money in response to these dummies.

and no, i didn't buy it. Out of mostly spite over this nonsensical interaction, i'm holding firm at my original offer; 'let me know if you change your mind' i occasionally find that minds change sometimes within 36 hrs of dealing with 'is this available and then ghosting.

 

[Provience]

12.5% is a reasonable discount of you wanted to haggle.

 

[Ransil]

You gotta low ball when they are asking stupid prices.

Just help a friend find some EFI parts, they just picked them up an hour ago, when I sent the link the question was why were they so cheap cause everything else they found was stupid high.

Still got a few buck off asking price,.

 

[det107]

if you don't fawking want to negotiate, then don't list it OBO...

Mebbe it means On Behalf Of..? Could be selling for a relative/friend-

 

[WTF?]

12.5% is a reasonable discount of you wanted to haggle.

Yeah, the slow response in addition to the frustration allowed for a cooling off period where I figured out I didn’t really need/ want said item. If the seller had come back with that offer In 10 min I might have bought it.

 

[subybaja]

Yep. I try not to inflate prices, but understand people need to think they've won.

$20K truck and you offer $16k? You'll most likely get blocked with no response.

$1000 part and you offer $800? I might take $900. All depends how it was worded.

Those are the same percentages...and 20% below listed seems like a legit opening offer, unless it's listed "firm".

Or you're just not open to negotiating?

 

[TRINDU]

Those are the same percentages...and 20% below listed seems like a legit opening offer, unless it's listed "firm".

Or you're just not open to negotiating?

Point is, it depends on the item. If a truck is worth $20k, $16k isn't an offer, it's an insult. Axle for $1000, $800 isn't far off. Go offer 800k for a 1mm property and see how far you get.

I negotiated just today. Had tires piling up in my shop. Listed them at $200/set. Someone acted interested, told them to stop by. They offered $180, I said no, they paid $200 other set was sold in 30min. Why negotiate?

 

[SomeGuyFromOlympia]

Point is, it depends on the item. If a truck is worth $20k, $16k isn't an offer, it's an insult. Axle for $1000, $800 isn't far off. Go offer 800k for a 1mm property and see how far you get.

I negotiated just today. Had tires piling up in my shop. Listed them at $200/set. Someone acted interested, told them to stop by. They offered $180, I said no, they paid $200 other set was sold in 30min. Why negotiate?

I have offered low on property before (not millions but a lot)
relator said that I was wasting my time
I told him to ask anyway
I got it with no bitching from the seller

you miss every chance you don't take

 

[WTF?]

I have offered low on property before (not millions but a lot)
relator said that I was wasting my time
I told him to ask anyway
I got it with no bitching from the seller

you miss every chance you don't take

Point is, it depends on the item. If a truck is worth $20k, $16k isn't an offer, it's an insult. Axle for $1000, $800 isn't far off. Go offer 800k for a 1mm property and see how far you get.

I negotiated just today. Had tires piling up in my shop. Listed them at $200/set. Someone acted interested, told them to stop by. They offered $180, I said no, they paid $200 other set was sold in 30min. Why negotiate?

My buddy submitted a 325k offer on a 400k property in a desireable location- it had only been on the market 2-3 wks. Everyone ( myself included) Thought he was nuts, but they quickly accepted with no counter. When i was a realtor, i always said 'i'm not sure there's a great chance you'll get it at that price, but if that's the number you're comfortable with, i'm happy to paper that offer.'

Million dollar plus listings get sold often for hundreds of thousands less that asking to guys with cash/ no financing required and quick 3 week close. In this market, someone could have bought the property for $450k right before' 2 weeks to slow the spread' and 850k after realtor fees now doesnt hurt their feelings too badly instead of $1.099 mil listing price

 

[WTF?]

My beater is a buick roadmaster and I found one on marketplace with the guy saying he would ship, had no prices on his ad and no list of what was available except that the motor/trans was not there

I needed a couple window switches and some small dash panels so I asked about them. he said "I have them, make an offer on these items"

I offered and he just said "no thanks"

fucking retard, you obviously have a price in mind SO FUCKING SAY IT

oh guys parting stuff out and say make offer, then getting offended at your offer for ~half what you can go pick it up at a junkyard (full service not u-pull) then asking 3x junkyard prices are a joy to interact with too.

 

[Swayzeexpress]

Real estate- at least in IL, a seller can't refuse a full price cash offer. Some areas price way high to get a feel for the buyer who offers less and can have a say in what type of person is moving to the community...

FB - offer a fair but low offer and respond to the "no thank you" with "understood, let me know if anything changes". Usually you'll get a number back or they take it two weeks later

 

[skyhiranger]

you miss every chance you don't take

Exactly. Even if what I am looking to buy is a good price and I will buy it for asking price, I still sometimes make a lower offer. If they say no, and it doesn't piss them off and they walk away (had that happen before) I'll pay asking price. Never hurts to offer a lower price (except that one time).

What I hate is the ebay "make an offer" auctions. Say someone has something listed for $50. I offer them $40. Their counter-offer is $49. I'm like really?!?! Why do you even have a "make an offer" listed in your auction, if you are only going to come down a $1 off your asking price...you are just wasting everyone's time, including your own. Sometimes, in that instance, I'll just walk away and buy from someone else for a similar price, even if the $50 was a decent price.

 

[skyhiranger]

oh guys parting stuff out and say make offer, then getting offended at your offer for ~half what you can go pick it up at a junkyard (full service not u-pull) then asking 3x junkyard prices are a joy to interact with too.

Yep, my thought process on the "make an offer" people is...if you want me to price your stuff, do you think the price I come up with is going to be good for me, or good for you.
I've said it before, the "call for price" people are idiots too. I always take that statement to mean, "I have my shit overpriced so much that if I post the price I'll get no response. At least this way I'll get people to contact me, then I have a chance at convincing them it is worth my asking price". Time wasters is all these people are.

 

[WTF?]

Real estate- at least in IL, a seller can't refuse a full price cash offer.

that's some commie shit right there- telling someone who they have to sell their property to...

edit- and its not normal operating procedure in free states- asking price is a starting point for a bidding war on about anything under 500k in desireable neighborhoods/localities.

 

[Swayzeexpress]

that's some commie shit right there- telling someone what they have to sell their property...

from what I gather its to prevent buyers of certain races from being descrininated against. all it did was raise asking prices

 

[WTF?]

from what I gather its to prevent buyers of certain races from being descriminated against. all it did was raise asking prices

yup- all in the name of 'equity'...

The really fucked up part is that the smooth-brained communist dictators of that shithole city (and incidentally, surrounding rural communities) are so arrogant that they really think so lowly of their constituents (subjects) that they believed nobody was going to figure out a loophole around that regulation when they wrote it...

 

[Penetrode Offroad]

lesson learned: realtors are worthless piles of dogshit

More money for asking means more commission. They wanted an extra 10k on their part.

 

[SomeGuyFromOlympia]

lesson learned: realtors are worthless piles of dogshit

I avoid them if I can
I have done more person to person deals than broker deals
you just have to be a big kid and use your words, and keep your feelings in check if they say no

 

[Landslide]

I have offered low on property before (not millions but a lot)
relator said that I was wasting my time
I told him to ask anyway
I got it with no bitching from the seller

you miss every chance you don't take

My motto when going to swap meets is “low ball” and that’s what I do. Some people get offended but I usually get counter offers and that’ll lead to a sale. People who don’t budge on price I walk away from unless it’s a good deal to begin with.

I got stuff for sale on fb mp and get all sorts of offers. One guy wanted to trade firearms but even on his long list there wasn’t anything I wanted. He had a s&w .44 mag too but wtf do I need that for really. Ammo for it is retarded expensive. Got one guy that low balled me one one item for a 1/3 my asking price which is in value of what I’m selling. I came back with “seriously”. I expected a response but nope

I don’t get worked up about selling or buying stuff on fb mp or cl like a lot of people on here do. I figure it’s expected when you venture into those places to buy and sell. Most of the time I enjoy it but you have your occasional wing it to deal with

Getting burnt is a whole different story and I try to be careful there.

 

[TRINDU]

you miss every chance you don't take

Sure, point made. Plenty of people brag about making offers of 50% (or less) and seller taking it.

It's amusing people get so bent of of shape on either end. Don't expect a counter, for any reason.

WhY YoU No NeGoTiAtE?1

I do the 'no thanks' all the time to <80% offers. From personal experience, the have no interest I paying close to asking, so just nip that in the bud. Or they're fishing and eventually will pay asking.

 

[welndmn]

When people also just ask me "What is your lowest?"
I respond with a "No Thanks".

 

[jeepyj]

One of my favorites. I sold a mower deck.

 

[WaterH]

Currently working on coaxing a counteroffer out of another seller with an 'OBO' contained in their listing. they just responded to ' would you accept (20% below asking)?' with 'no thanks'.

if you don't fawking want to negotiate, then don't list it OBO...

When I say “OBO” , I take offers and say “I’ll give it a couple weeks and if you are highest, you got it”.

Point is, it depends on the item. If a truck is worth $20k, $16k isn't an offer, it's an insult. Axle for $1000, $800 isn't far off. Go offer 800k for a 1mm property and see how far you get.

I negotiated just today. Had tires piling up in my shop. Listed them at $200/set. Someone acted interested, told them to stop by. They offered $180, I said no, they paid $200 other set was sold in 30min. Why negotiate?

I think an offer of $16k on a listed $20k truck is perfectly exceptable in any situation. If it has OBO, even $10k is alright. It probably won’t get it, but I don’t think it’s an insult. Offers less that 1/2 are an insult. I’ve bought lots of stuff at 20% off asking. The only case I would offer 1/2 is if they are completely overpriced. Even then, I would apologize and say I just don’t think it’s worth that, but the offer is on the table if you change your mind.

More money for asking means more commission. They wanted an extra 10k on their part.

They get paid on percentage of the selling price, not asking. Most agents are trying to get the owners to go down so they get the sale.