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I fuckin hate tying rebar so much
it's worse because the cable wants to flop around
 
Steve300xcw said:
Splurge for a wire can. Fuck tying bar with just a bare roll of wire
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Oh that ain't the tie wire, that's the high tensile fence wire I started using because I ran outta tie wire

my tie wire gets wrapped up in tape, then you cut the binder wires and pull it from the middle
 
You need one of those $150 chinese knockoff wire tie guns. I'm sure it sucks but it probably sucks less than doing all that by hand
 
all that's way too much doing
upper left, with the wire folded over so it does two strands
 
Small Kleins and a wire reel. On deck Steel a snap tie is all you need
 
Dethmachinefab said:
Fawk. You need to figure out the spinny tool, pliers got to take forever. My hand hurts thinking about that.
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Its really not bad. Its monkeys and footballs until you get shit figured out though. Handles on tie pliers are quite a bit longer. Dont have to squeeze all that hard to get a good bite.

Spent a few years on a concrete crew. Tied plenty of bar. Didnt see the spinny tools all that much.

You end up using tie wire for everything. So buying into the spinny tool and wires, is just an extra step. I think a wire can is faster too.
 
Steve300xcw said:
You end up using tie wire for everything. So buying into the spinny tool and wires, is just an extra step. I think a wire can is faster too.
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you don't buy the special wires, you make a loop outta the normal wire and hook the loop on the back side, then the long tails get caught up in the first wrap
 
[486] said:
you don't buy the special wires, you make a loop outta the normal wire and hook the loop on the back side, then the long tails get caught up in the first wrap
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So whats the point of that? I dont see how that could be any faster than a pair of pliers
 
The guys I work with all use the ties with pre made loops and the spinny tool. Might be a regional or ethnic thing.
 
Dethmachinefab said:
The guys I work with all use the ties with pre made loops and the spinny tool. Might be a regional or ethnic thing.
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Thats the only way I have seen the spinny tool used. Have yet to see it used by anybody but "bubba johns concrete,bbq an taxidermy":laughing:

I'll stick with one of these:flipoff2:

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Steve300xcw said:
Thats the only way I have seen the spinny tool used. Have yet to see it used by anybody but "bubba johns concrete,bbq an taxidermy":laughing:

I'll stick with one of these:flipoff2:

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I saw a Mexican dude using that, he had it around his ankle. I wear it around my waist though.
 
[486] said:
So, the top line is the vent, it is so low to the ground because I figure it'll act as a secondary drain line if the main drain gets plugged anywhere, when it becomes a drain instead of a vent I figure it'll warn me of the fact by the drains and traps gurgling and such
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Where are you venting if both of those are horizontal and plugged? The external stack you talked about?
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The 4" toilet line will be about 24" below the ceiling in the basement, with those two pipes tied into it. The 4" line going out to the yard carrying the waste will be the vent, since it will never be flowing anywhere near full capacity it'll always have some air space up top. If the shit tank pump dies and the tank starts filling above normal capacity I should have a couple very gurgly flushes before anything backs up into the house.


The main question I've got is in the toilet plumbing from the flange to those 4-2-4 tees that are 24" or thereabouts below the flange
I'm only concerned about pumping air along with the waste water
ya'll think a 45 at the flange and a 45 at the tees will pump less air than just a vertical fall and a 90 at the bottom?
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45s will pump less in theory but if you are vertical they should be the same in practice.
 
[486] said:
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cut some "rebar" from the pile of heavy 7-strand guardrail cable I bought, uncoiling shit is a problem, especially when it is stiff as fuck and whippy as all hell and sharp on the end because an abrasive disc is all that'll cut it
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Tie up 250' or so and wrap it in an old tire chain, it'll pay out the middle without killing you and stay coiled up nice.
 
Pocahontas said:
Where are you venting if both of those are horizontal and plugged? The external stack you talked about?
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vent acting as a drain is not going to be vented, it'll make the drains work shitty warning of the plugged up drain line
 
[486] said:
no you can't
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Yes, you can. I stored 100ft of old 3/4 crane cable like that for years. I also tried storing a 25ft cutofff in a 5-gal bucket inside of said 55-gal. Needless to say I came back years later to a broken bucket and two cables inside the 55-gal drum.

Edit: I guess I can see it coil springing out if you get the barrel full enough to overcome gravity. Maybe get a fixed lid barrel and cut a circle hole in it rather than cutting the while lid off.
 
arse_sidewards said:
You can do the same thing with a 55gal drum
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Doesn’t have the same action as a tire chain that comes around the edges to keep it in a semi circular basket with sides. I have lots of old crane cable and it is super manageable and never really wants to get away from you. Stuff he’s talking about is a motherfucker And it just wants to be straight
 
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