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Alec Baldwin Shot a Lady

Anyone else just find this way too damn convenient to be a coincidence?

Yes, in a regular Joe Smo case the state withholding evidence is worthy of a dismissal with prejudice. But lets be real, it's not a Joe Smo on trial here is it...

The prosecution just happens to not share something with the defense...

Thus giving the defense an out via mistrial with prejudice.

Then the prosecutor, after botching the case decides to take the stand and comment how much she "likes him as a person, Especially his politics"

All I'm saying is the movie star who has a lot of money, is walking away from this and the armorer is still sitting in a prison cell...

Also, I called it back in January :flipoff2:

MONSTERMUDDER said:
He walks.

They've mishandled the evidence, and the whole case devolves into he said she said since the chain of custody on set was a massive clusterfuck.

And my wild ass guess, the movie, while not setting records, will do very well when released.
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No justice for Halyna


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87manche said:
to expound upon that thought.
I don't like hypocrites, and he is a hypocrite.
he rails against my right to own a firearm, but uses firearms gleefully to make millions of dollars on screen.

Which one of us is perpetuating gun violence more? Me, with my firearms that others rarely see, or him, putting out action movies and shit to a global audience?
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I understand. But can you imagine a world where people go to prison because other people don't like their politics? Like... North Korea?

I think the guy is a pretentious ****. But I don't think he's at fault here. It's that simple.
 
MONSTERMUDDER said:
All I'm saying is the movie star who has a lot of money, is walking away from this and the armorer is still sitting in a prison cell...
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You mean the armorer who's job it was to not put live rounds into a gun for use on a movie set, who did in fact put live rounds into a gun for use on a movie set? Yeah, why should she be held accountable? Dumbass.
 
CrustyJeep said:
You mean the armorer who's job it was to not put live rounds into a gun for use on a movie set, who did in fact put live rounds into a gun for use on a movie set? Yeah, why should she be held accountable? Dumbass.
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Where did I say she shouldn't face consequences for her actions? I'm making the point that she doesn't have pockets as deep as someone else...

There's a good argument to be made that Baldwins case shouldn't have been brought to trial at all, I don't deny that.

I just find it really interesting how the perfect 'out' for the defense just happened to hinge on a piece of evidence "showing up" and the prosecution for "some reason" deciding not to approach defense with new information. Thus handing a mistrial with prejudice and thus making Baldwin a free man as he can't be tried again for it.
 
CrustyJeep said:
I understand. But can you imagine a world where people go to prison because other people don't like their politics? Like... North Korea?

I think the guy is a pretentious ****. But I don't think he's at fault here. It's that simple.
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well that's why we were supposed to have a trial.

I R disappoint.
 
Baldy said:
Ok so why isn't the same standard being used for the Jan 6 defendants? After all the committee manipulated and destroyed exculpatory evidence but yet people were still convicted and sent to prison.
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Because we all know why...
MONSTERMUDDER said:
Then the prosecutor, after botching the case decides to take the stand and comment how much she "likes him as a person, Especially his politics"
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Can someone fill me in on what the ammo itself has to do with anything? was the box mislabeled or something?
 
CrustyJeep said:
I understand. But can you imagine a world where people go to prison because other people don't like their politics? Like... North Korea?

I think the guy is a pretentious ****. But I don't think he's at fault here. It's that simple.
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North Korea? You mean Canada, western and eastern Europe, USA and most of Asia?:laughing:

Central/South America and sub Sahara Africa may be the only regions left for freedom of expression, but that's just due to mass failure of thr system :rasta:
 
SomeGuy said:
Can someone fill me in on what the ammo itself has to do with anything? was the box mislabeled or something?
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There are a number of people whom "could" have been at fault (or a combination)
The guy whom oversaw the production, and let safety be a third-string priority (negligence)
The guy whom pulled the trigger.
The girl whom said the gun was 'unloaded' or "safe" or "cold" or whatever
And...
The guy whom provided the dummy bullets in the first place (because maybe they weren't dummy bullets after all).

so the 'provider' of said bullets also provides real bullets to other folks, so, as I understand it, to mitigate his liability, he voluntarily sent samples of his live bullets to the Po-Po to test, to verify that his ammo wasn't the 'at fault' ammo.

Police received ammo, and cataloged it under a different case file, knowing that it might prejudice a jury.

Voila...get out of jail free card
 
Obviously if Baldwin stood in the middle of 5TH ave and shot someone, he wouldn't get charge.
Trump, wouldn't lose a single voter there if he did, but would get convicted.
 
CrustyJeep said:
But can you imagine a world where people go to prison because other people don't like their politics?
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I honestly could not see that happening here, generally . . . until I saw the persecution of the tourists ushered into the Capitol on J6 :mad3:
 
ExWrench said:
I honestly could not see that happening here, generally . . . until I saw the persecution of the tourists ushered into the Capitol on J6 :mad3:
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I’ve seen crooked cops and prosecutors purposely withhold exculpatory evidence .


Friend of mine got charged with murder cause he was the last person to admit seeing someone alive .

Where the body was dumped on a dirt road a homeowner was interviewed by the police and stated that they saw a car pull into their driveway at 3 am and someone got out of the drivers door , when the homeowner turned on the floodlights the driver got into the car and left and the body was found a few hundred feet up the dirt road .

Homeowner statement said “the driver got out and when I turned on the light he got back into the car and left . He was black , and about six feet tall “

And this homeowner got on the stand at the trial and very carefully never mentioned the height or ethnicity of the driver .
They had been carefully coached by the cops

The guy the crooked cops charged with the murder was a 5’6” white guy .

The cops conveniently left this interview form out of the information turned over to the defense .

But didn’t throw it away ,

So when the guy gets found not guilty because there was zero evidence , he hired a lawyer and sued the cops and when they went to get copies of the documents, the clerk at the courthouse just said , there’s the boxes , there’s the copy machine .

The lawyer didn’t look at any of the documents they just copied thousands of pages and took them to the lawyers office

Weeks later they find the interview form .
And the cops wouldn’t settle until the night before the civil rights trial was going to the jury . Then they called and offered a settlement .

Nowdays , I just assume most cops and prosecutors are crooked dirtbags .
And most news is fake or lies or inaccurate.

I know someone who broke up with her boyfriend and mentioned it to her co workers because she was afraid of him .

Next morning some co worker finds her car parked in the
Middle of the long road going to where she worked at a golf course restaurant, car was idling , door open and one of her shoes was on the ground .

So immediately everyone knows what has happened ,

Later that day the boyfriends car was found in an alley ,
Murder suicide,

Every news story said she had been kidnapped from her apartment , when I SAW her car sitting in the road to the golf course .

I was working at the golf course park at the time ,
So I saw first hand how the news outlets lie about something that’s not even remotely related to the story content .
 
roundhouse said:
I’ve seen crooked cops and prosecutors purposely withhold exculpatory evidence .

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It's not like this is a one off either, it happens all the time. These DAs care more about their conviction rates so they can run for higher office than they do about actual justice. They don't give a shit if you rot in prison for 30 years or end up on death row, just as long as you're not a loss on their record.
 
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