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'05+ Ford Super Duty Dana 60 Axle Tech & Info

So will 1550 u joints work on the 250 350 knuckles or do you have to have the 450 550?
 
westracing01 said:
Just to be clear, this is for the rear sterling right? A 2011+ Unit bearing will swap onto an earlier 05+ axle and not change the rotor location, wms, etc?
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If you are referring to the super duty front, the unit bearing will swap all the way to the 2021 front axle. The only change to the bearing on those is 2011+ when they changed to tone ring tooth count. All the 05+ rear sterling hubs will interchange without issue 2011 is when they went to 4 wheel abs and the hubs have a 55 tooth tone ring on the backside of them. Its the 99-04 that have different flange offset and would require finding a rotor that would match it.
 
Wellstig1 said:
If you are referring to the super duty front, the unit bearing will swap all the way to the 2021 front axle. The only change to the bearing on those is 2011+ when they changed to tone ring tooth count. All the 05+ rear sterling hubs will interchange without issue 2011 is when they went to 4 wheel abs and the hubs have a 55 tooth tone ring on the backside of them. Its the 99-04 that have different flange offset and would require finding a rotor that would match it.
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Basically that's what I was referring too. The idea was to grab a set of 2009 axles, run the 2011+ front UB and 2011+ rear hubs to get the 55 tooth tone ring on both with 2009 brakes. That way I can use all off the shelf parts and keep my dash from looking like a Christmas tree.

The other idea, and it's probably stupid but it's nice, was to get custom 9" housing's and run the Super KP setup up front with UB cups on the rear. Get the dropouts I really want, brand new stuff to work on, same UB all the way around (means only one trail spare needed) and can keep all off the shelf parts, just have to figure out the brake mounting in the rear which isn't a big deal. The only problem with that is I'd really like to keep stock length 05+ front shafts and keep the 72" WMS. I just can't quite confirm that it does. The measurements I can get online come out to 70.785" from stub shaft end to stub shaft end. That extra inch isn't a big deal really and since I'd have to run double spline axles in the rear it doesn't really matter.
 
Does anyone know the stock caster measurement on a 2005+ superduty?
Something that is easily measure either from diff cover flange or upper ball joint angle?
I think I want to add more to my RV, but I have no idea what stock is.
 
welndmn said:
Does anyone know the stock caster measurement on a 2005+ superduty?
Something that is easily measure either from diff cover flange or upper ball joint angle?
I think I want to add more to my RV, but I have no idea what stock is.
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i can check it when i get home if i remember
 
welndmn said:
Does anyone know the stock caster measurement on a 2005+ superduty?
Something that is easily measure either from diff cover flange or upper ball joint angle?
I think I want to add more to my RV, but I have no idea what stock is.
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I thought with a horizontal pinion the caster was around 11* , could be remembering wrong, I just entered it into CAD the other day.
 
welndmn said:
Does anyone know the stock caster measurement on a 2005+ superduty?
Something that is easily measure either from diff cover flange or upper ball joint angle?
I think I want to add more to my RV, but I have no idea what stock is.
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On my 2007, I believe it was like 3-4 degrees. It wasn't enough for me and I increased it to about 9. I'm sure I measured through the ball joints. I'm pretty sure of these numbers. I will check my build thread as I'm sure I detailed all of my testing.
 
Noob question for the gurus.

Are the 2wd beam knuckles & C's the same as 4wd?
Could you bolt on 4wd unit bearings and use them for a custom build if you don't plan to use anything else from the 4wd axle?

​​​​Might be a way to save some cash, I think I read that they are the same in the other thread but maybe I made it up.
 
Dan said:
Noob question for the gurus.

Are the 2wd beam knuckles & C's the same as 4wd?
Could you bolt on 4wd unit bearings and use them for a custom build if you don't plan to use anything else from the 4wd axle?

​​​​Might be a way to save some cash, I think I read that they are the same in the other thread but maybe I made it up.
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i also read they are the same in the other thread, i dont see why ford would go through the trouble of making two different sets
 
Dan said:
Noob question for the gurus.

Are the 2wd beam knuckles & C's the same as 4wd?
Could you bolt on 4wd unit bearings and use them for a custom build if you don't plan to use anything else from the 4wd axle?

​​​​Might be a way to save some cash, I think I read that they are the same in the other thread but maybe I made it up.
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They are the same. The 2wd ones just have a plug on the inside of the knuckle.
 
Saw this yesterday

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I thought 550ish.

well mines gonna be heavy as fuck with a truss, beefy diff cover, weld on hi steer, hydro ram mount, and all the fixins.
 
JamieRC said:
I thought 550ish.

well mines gonna be heavy as fuck with a truss, beefy diff cover, weld on hi steer, hydro ram mount, and all the fixins.
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Mine definitely went from “I can move this” when cleaned off; to passenger side is manageable and driver side is “my back might not like this” with the truss on; to “yeah newp” once the ram mount went on :flipoff2:
 
RPS1030 said:
Mine definitely went from “I can move this” when cleaned off; to passenger side is manageable and driver side is “my back might not like this” with the truss on; to “yeah newp” once the ram mount went on :flipoff2:
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that 630lbs makes me feel better that i needed a hand to get it unloaded from the bed of my truck :laughing:

no knuckles, shafts and all the fixins cut off and i could manhandle it

i just rebuilt a toyota front axle and i could pick that up no problem compared to that D60 :lmao:
 
JamieRC said:
I thought 550ish.

well mines gonna be heavy as fuck with a truss, beefy diff cover, weld on hi steer, hydro ram mount, and all the fixins.
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thats about what an old KP d60 weighs, have you seen the size difference in the knuckles and the suspension mount casting?

not sure how any of you are surprised by the weight, especially considering it even has the track bar and drag link attached
 
Can anyone give me a mesurement from the end of the tube or inner c to the wms on a 250/350
 
I feel like I remember reading an answer to this question somewhere, but I haven't been able to find it again; Is anyone running one of these axles without the outer seal or o-ring in the knuckle? Those are just needed for the vacuum hubs?
 
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