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'05+ Ford Super Duty Dana 60 Axle Tech & Info

stan1688 said:
I feel like I remember reading an answer to this question somewhere, but I haven't been able to find it again; Is anyone running one of these axles without the outer seal or o-ring in the knuckle? Those are just needed for the vacuum hubs?
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I am not using any of the seals or O-Rings. Using big bell shafts. No problems so far.
 
So I found out that my 4.88 OEM Super60 F550 pinion uses a crush sleeve from the factory when aftermarket pinions are normally solid shank were the sleeve would be and then use shims.
ECGS looks like they make a spacer and shim kit so I am going to give that a try.
Sounds like torquing around 400ft lbs to get the crush sleeve to start collapsing and not over torque is reason enough to go the spacer route.
 
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Soooo could you use a '05+ super duty 60 as a rear steer application? offset pinion and all
 
pennsylvaniaboy said:
Soooo could you use a '05+ super duty 60 as a rear steer application? offset pinion and all
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I'm doing that right now on a Rock Lizard chassis. '08 60s front and rear. To begin with, I'm just gonna run the factory 1550 axles for budget, eventually I'll call Ouverson and hand him a couple paychecks.
 
HYDRODYNAMIC said:
So I found out that my 4.88 OEM Super60 F550 pinion uses a crush sleeve from the factory when aftermarket pinions are normally solid shank were the sleeve would be and then use shims.
ECGS looks like they make a spacer and shim kit so I am going to give that a try.
Sounds like torquing around 400ft lbs to get the crush sleeve to start collapsing and not over torque is reason enough to go the spacer route.
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Yukon makes a solid replacement for the crush sleeves on most axles, including my sterling and SD front 60.
 
gozuki said:
FYI, seller "Sparktecmotors" on Ebay is selling the SD60 front 1550 shafts for $148 and $155 shipped.
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Thanks, best I'd found elsewhere was $165/$170. Axles will be one of the last things I buy, if the cash is there I'll call Ouverson earlier...
 
gozuki said:
FYI, seller "Sparktecmotors" on Ebay is selling the SD60 front 1550 shafts for $148 and $155 shipped.
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In case anyone is interested, these seem to be selling out quick, there's 4 sets left after I bought mine.

Driver Shaft, 10013781 $150.13 shipped
Passenger Shaft, 10013778 $158.06 shipped

Under $310 delivered

I'm seeing $385 delivered from ECGS, so this is 20% cheaper.
 
I posted these on the other site years ago, I figured I'd dig em out for the new thread...

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Stock 05+ shaft on the left...








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Jeffh555 said:
In case anyone is interested, these seem to be selling out quick, there's 4 sets left after I bought mine.

Under $310 delivered

I'm seeing $385 delivered from ECGS, so this is 20% cheaper.
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My short side showed up, long side left the box in transit. They do NOT pack them well.
 
Sterlingfire said:
Wouldn't that be the lockout or drive flange?
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Guess that depends on what he's talking about. I took his comment as being directed at the 1550 shafts, which are a stock replacement part. Stock lockouts work with them. If he was asking about the big boys I posted the picture of, those don't use a lockout or drive flange, they spline directly into the hub. But you need at least a 40 spline carrier for the inners to work, pretty sure Randy isn't cutting 'em down to 35 (and what would be the point anyway...)
 
Russellmn said:
Guess that depends on what he's talking about. I took his comment as being directed at the 1550 shafts, which are a stock replacement part. Stock lockouts work with them. If he was asking about the big boys I posted the picture of, those don't use a lockout or drive flange, they spline directly into the hub. But you need at least a 40 spline carrier for the inners to work, pretty sure Randy isn't cutting 'em down to 35 (and what would be the point anyway...)
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:rolleyes:You didn't read did you? His quote was direct. It had nothing to do with the ouverson Stubs, i can assure you of that. Look who he's quoting, and what that quote was about.

And thanks for the explanation, but i already knew all of that:flipoff2:

Your ouverson shafts look:smokin:Though
I don't see a need for those on my rig, but I'm guessing you'll never break a stub again:laughing:
 
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Sterlingfire said:
:rolleyes:You didn't read did you? His quote was direct. It had nothing to do with the ouverson Stubs, i can assure you of that. Look who he's quoting, and what that quote was about.

And thanks for the explanation, but i already knew all of that:flipoff2:

Your ouverson shafts look:smokin:Though
I don't see a need for those on my rig, but I'm guessing you'll never break a stub again:laughing:
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I did read, but sometimes people quote the wrong post, and since he was asking about fitment, which we know isn't an issue with the 1550s...


And I wish those were my shafts, but not yet. I'll be running the 1550 shafts for the near future anyway...
 
Russellmn said:
Guess that depends on what he's talking about. I took his comment as being directed at the 1550 shafts, which are a stock replacement part. Stock lockouts work with them. If he was asking about the big boys I posted the picture of,

those don't use a lockout or drive flange, they spline directly into the hub. But you need at least a 40 spline carrier for the inners to work,

pretty sure Randy isn't cutting 'em down to 35 (and what would be the point anyway...)
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Who makes a 40 spline carrier to fit the '05+ Ford dana 60?
 
Same carriers as the older 60s, so ARB, Detroit, Yukon, etc...

If I remember correctly, Ouverson will take a 35 spline ARB and punch it out to 44
 
WaterH said:
Drive flange was the word I was searching for. I didn't think the stub was big enough to spline directly.
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05+ can be had either way, drive flange, or lockout. I'm gonna run lockouts on mine, they're the stock warns so we'll see how it goes....
I didn't think you were quoting the wrong guy lol
 
How big a tire can the stock 35-spline axles handle on an overland rig?


Would they be able to handle, say, Continental MPT 81 - 365/80 R 20 (43") military tires?
 
CDA 455 II said:
How big a tire can the stock 35-spline axles handle on an overland rig?


Would they be able to handle, say, Continental MPT 81 - 365/80 R 20 (43") military tires?
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How much weight? HP? Driving style? Trails? Everything comes into account on this, as well as luck. In general, for overlanding, I would say they'd be fine.
 
Russellmn said:
How much weight? HP? Driving style? Trails? Everything comes into account on this, as well as luck. In general, for overlanding, I would say they'd be fine.
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Weight:
About 5,500lbs loaded ('94 Bronco)
Also towing 3,500 trailer

HP:
Eventually: 400 to 650HP & 400 to 650ft/lbs torque

Driving style:
Think; travelling from Anchorage, AK to Cape Horn South America TYPE of driving.
And Moab! :flipoff2:

Luck:
Good point :beer:
 
CDA 455 II said:
Weight:
About 5,500lbs loaded ('94 Bronco)
Also towing 3,500 trailer

HP:
Eventually: 400 to 650HP & 400 to 650ft/lbs torque

Driving style:
Think; travelling from Anchorage, AK to Cape Horn South America TYPE of driving.
And Moab! :flipoff2:

Luck:
Good point :beer:
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I'd upgrade to chromo minimum. 40 spline is probably better... Unless you wanna carry a few spares for each corner.
 
No, those are Ouverson Violator shafts that use a Rockwell u-joint. 40 spline is just a bit bigger than the 35s, I want to say 1.7" diameter vs 1.5" for the 35s. Everything needed for 40 spline is available from multiple vendors. I like Branik, but they're definitely not the only game in town...

The Ouverson's are WAY overkill for 99% of the wheeling population, and the current versions don't need any massaging to fit.
 
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