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'05+ Ford Super Duty Dana 60 Axle Tech & Info

Part numbers for OEM Ford 1550 joint shafts. Fit 05-15 axles

Right side assembly: 10013778

Left side assembly: 10013781
 
Toreadorranger said:
Part numbers for OEM Ford 1550 joint shafts. Fit 05-15 axles

Right side assembly: 10013778

Left side assembly: 10013781
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They make these for both the 250/350 and 450/550 axles and they are different. Not sure which these are but should specify since this thread is all over the place
 
Noob question: how do I tell the difference between a d60 and d50

Noob answer: d60 has an 1 5/16 pinion nut
 
This photo is worth posting for this thread. Great comparison of Kingpin vs 05+

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Lil'John said:
I'll go with the newbie questions for someone 'stuck' in the kingpin ecosystem(four Dodges across three rigs) to go to 2005+:
1) Minimum rim size?
2) How wide are they? I'm at 60" and 67".
3) How easy/cheap is it to get back to 8 on 6.5"?
4) How difficult to 'convert' to leaf sprung? Especially passenger side and narrowed.
5) How much more weight vs kp axle?
6) Worth going from 35 spline yukon chromo?
7) Worth going from WelderBill knuckles?
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1) 17s
2) 72" wms
3) wheel spacers are cheap and easy, new unit bearings are the expensive route, if youre unit bearings are bad it's not much extra to find a company that offers a different lug pattern, the high cost is the unit bearings itself
4) not sure
5)not sure
6)not sure
7)not sure :flipoff2:
 
2005 F550 converted to 8 lug with F250/350 bearings is 78” WMS
The Dust Buggy build thread has info on custom brakes and bolt on high steer. With fabricated brackets you can fit 2000 F250 rear rotors and calipers and clear a stock backspacing 17” wheel and possibly a 16” or 15” depending upon backspacing.
You need a 5.5” center to center high steer arms to turn the full 45* with a 8” cylinder.
Mine came stock with a 4.88 10” ring gear
Knuckles are HUGE and ball joint spread is wider and I believe the ball joints are bigger both top and bottom
The wider tube allows a link bracket to be placed between the pumpkin and knuckle
 
HYDRODYNAMIC said:
2005 F550 converted to 8 lug with F250/350 bearings is 78” WMS
The Dust Buggy build thread has info on custom brakes and bolt on high steer. With fabricated brackets you can fit 2000 F250 rear rotors and calipers and clear a stock backspacing 17” wheel and possibly a 16” or 15” depending upon backspacing.
You need a 5.5” center to center high steer arms to turn the full 45* with a 8” cylinder.
Mine came stock with a 4.88 10” ring gear
Knuckles are HUGE and ball joint spread is wider and I believe the ball joints are bigger both top and bottom
The wider tube allows a link bracket to be placed between the pumpkin and knuckle
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You mean 10 lug?


I'll search for the tech on the 2000 F250 rear rotors and calipers set up.
Excellent info; thanks for sharing :beer:
 
I found these torque specs. can anyone confirm this is for the 2005+ axles?

Tie Rod End —Inner, castellated nut....................90 Nm
Tie Rod End —Inner, Sleeve Clamp Bolts................55 Nm
Drag link to pitman arm nut.................148 ft-lb
Inner & outer tie-rod end nuts................85 ft-lb
Track bar bracket to frame.....................129 ft-lb
Track bar to track bar bracket bolt............406 ft-lb
Track bar to axle nut................................... 185 ft-lb
Radius arm to axle bolts, and bracket nut.........222 ft-lb
Pinion bearing preload..................................10-20 in-lb
Pinion nut............................................... ..220-280 ft-lb
Ring gear bolts............................................120-140 ft-lb
Bearing cap bolts.........................................120-135 ft-lb
Steel Diff cover bolts....................................30-40 ft-lb
Cast aluminum diff cover bolts......................... 24 ft-lb
Wheel lug nuts..........................................120-165 ft-lb
Diff filler plug.............................................18 ft-lb
Brakes, disc, front brake caliper pin bolts (2)......................42 ft-lb
Brakes, disc, rear brake caliper pin bolts (2)......................27 ft-lb
Brakes, front disc brake caliper anchor plate bolts (2)...........166 ft-lb
Brakes, rear disc brake caliper anchor plate bolts (2)......128 ft-lb
Brakes, Caliper Bleeder Screw................................13-18 ft-lb
Shock Absorber (front)......................................76 ft-lb
Shock Absorber (rear).....................................46 ft-lb
Wheel Bearing/Hub Assembly Nuts (4).........135 ft-lb
Stabilizer Bar Link Bolts.........................................85 ft-lb

All Superdutys 99-08 that are singe rear wheel models use the 8x170mm bolt pattern.
Old body style(OBS) is 8x6.5

The 05-08's have larger brakes so the backspacing is different than the 99-04's.


In 05 ...engineers to upsized brake rotors by 5 percent, to 347 mm in front and 340 mm in rear.

Other improvements include larger calipers for both the F-250 and F-350. The front calipers have twin 60 mm pistons - up 11 percent from 2004 - for better braking feel. Rear calipers have twin 48 mm calipers on F-250 and twin 54 mm pistons on F-350 dual-rear-wheel models.

BACK SPACING

99-04......4"
05-07.......18"and 20"(from the factory) have 5.80" BS, and the 17" have 5.50"



00-04s came with 16s (unless it was a Harley Edition, they had 18s)...they don't clear the calipers on the 05-08s.
A 04 HD wheel would fit on a 05-08 since they were 18s, but they had less backspacing so they sit further out of the wheel wells on 05-08s.

05-08s fit on the 99-04, just rub on the leaf springs and sit further under the truck than they do on the 05-08.



Offset is the location of the wheel mounting surface in relation to the true center of the wheel......normally in mm.
Negative does move it inward.

So....

A 20x10 wheel with a 4.5" BackSpace will have approx -24 or -25mm offset.
A 20x12 wheel with a 4.5" BackSpace will have approx -51mm offset.

and some for the 10.50
Differential bearing cap bolt 88
Differential case half bolts 90
Differential pinion shaft lock bolt 22
Differential ring gear bolts 111
Driveshaft flange bolt 76

http://www.billavista.com/Tech/Artic...ble/index.html

Part numbers for axle parts (not an inclusive list)
Ball Joint Upper
-Moog/XRF - K80026
-Ford - 5C3Z-3049-AB (MCSOE-67) + Nut - F2TZ-3A049-A

Ball Joint Lower
-Moog/XRF - K8607T
-Ford - 8C3Z-3050-C (MCSOE-51) + Nut - F2TZ-3A050-A + Snap Ring - EOTZ-3K050-B

Updated Dust Shield
-Ford - AC3Z-1S175-A (BRS-170)
-Spicer - SS 53877

Axle Seal
-Ford - 5C3Z-3254-AA
-Spicer - SS 2017426 (55474 old#)

AutoLock Hub O-Ring kit (not needed since vacuum system won't be used)
-Ford - 5C3Z-1K106-AB (complete kit with 2 o-rings, gasket, screws)

Yellow Hub/Knuckle O-ring
-Ford - 5C3Z-4A322-AA
-Dana/Spicer - 54983

U-Joint
Spicer - SPL55-3X
Spicer Greaseable - SPL55-4X


Axle: 2005-2010 D60
***There is some confusion over the term "super 60". The true Super 60 is found on the F450/F550. The axle is wider, has larger knuckles, 10 lug adapters, some have a 10" ring gear and 1550 u-joints,etc.



Axle Specs
-Tubes: 3.75" OD, 1/2" wall
-WMS to WMS: 72"
-Ring Gear: 9.75" (a 10" can be sourced from Ford in limited ratios)
-Lug Pattern: 8x170
-Wheel Studs: M14x1.50
-Weight: Approximately 750lbs loaded with brakes
-Axle shafts: 35 spline
-U-joints: 1480
-Tone ring: 60 tooth
 
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The F550 brakes will only clear a 20" wheel and I wanted to be able to run a 17" to keep things standard. I first adapted a set of Willwood Dynalites and through more research found out they would flex and not provide the stopping power and also have a soft pedal due to the flex with the spacers needed for a wide rotor. I then thought about narrowing the rotor to 3/8 width and taking out the caliper spacers. Then I remembered that I didn't want all these one off wear parts, or under powered brakes. I ended up using F250 2000 rear wheel calipers and 13"x1.18" rotors. The rotors needed the flange mounting ID opened up a little. The caliper brackets and adapter did need some machining to sit true and flat and some sanding for clearance and a new bolt pattern to clear the knuckle. The piston size 1.75" Dia = 4.8" area and will be the same in the front and rear now. The Willwood AT6 which is their go to caliper for Ultra4, SCORE, BITD is a 5.4" area, so the Ford rear caliper at 4.8" is 89% of that so pedal and line pressures should be ideal. The wheel clearance is great. A bent wheel or small rocks will not get jammed between the wheel and the caliper. All the wear parts are available off the shelf and the brake pads are larger with more material and different pad compositions are available. The pistons are sealed for dirt and water ingress. The calipers are stiff for minimal flex. The rotors are thick vented so I don't have to worry about overheating. The pedal is a Willwood 7:1 swing mount tru bar for dual master cylinders.

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CDA 455, this is a great idea! People can keep posting here and if it is good info, you can put it up front.

Thankyou and and I hope you stay a long time. If you decide not to continue, maybe you could notify a mod to take over.
 
WaterH said:
1) CDA 455, this is a great idea! People can keep posting here and if it is good info, you can put it up front.

2) Thankyou and and I hope you stay a long time. If you decide not to continue, maybe you could notify a mod to take over.
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1) I just started the thread.
ANGELO came up with the idea of putting the info in the OP. :smokin:

2) YW; I won't be leaving until Austin sells the website to VS for 7 figures. :laughing:
That should be a 20 year run. :grinpimp:
 
1410 cv drive shaft info

rockyota83 said:
the dodge 1410 cv can do 30 degrees too not only 20 like that thread says




https://neapco.mycarparts.net/produc...pco-N924141HAG

https://neapco.mycarparts.net/produc...pco-N924143HAG ford thicker wall tubing

https://neapco.mycarparts.net/produc...pco-N924142HAG ford

https://neapco.mycarparts.net/products/Neapco-N924141G the dodge 20 degree










handy link

https://www.neapcocomponents.com/ima...1366_4x4qr.pdf




if you want to buy it

https://www.drivetrainamerica.com/ne...cv-head-asmbl/




fwiw its not just a dodge part, its also a ford




theres 4 different 1410 cv joints

N924141G 20 degrees 3.12 pilot diameter dodge

N924141HAG 30 degrees 3.12 pilot diameter dodge

N924142HAG 30 degrees 2.68 pilot diameter ford

N924143HAG 30 degrees 2.68 pilot diameter ford




all have a 4.25 bolt pattern size
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https://www.pirate4x4.com/threads/info-on-ford-super-duty-dana-60-axle.834088/page-187#post-44251520
 
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