1956 Cessna 182

My landing gear has been ready since December or so. Can’t get the guy to send me a final invoice or dimensions on the package so I can get a label to get it back home. I don’t think there’s any malicious intent there at all. I think he’s just got too many irons in the fire.

Now I’m looking at making a trip to Seattle to pick up and ship myself. I’ve already gone to Northern Wisconsin for that gear might as well go to Seattle. :laughing:
I forwarded this to a buddy who is friends with Jim, I'll let you know if I hear anything worthwhile.
 
My landing gear has been ready since December or so. Can’t get the guy to send me a final invoice or dimensions on the package so I can get a label to get it back home. I don’t think there’s any malicious intent there at all. I think he’s just got too many irons in the fire.

Now I’m looking at making a trip to Seattle to pick up and ship myself. I’ve already gone to Northern Wisconsin for that gear might as well go to Seattle. :laughing:
Good lord, what a **** show. Flying across the country to transport an item a few miles to an LTL shipper…. How common is this? Could, say, a desk jockey that hates his job make a living flying around, shaming small companies into actually shipping stuff, and make several grand a month?
 
I did pick up an additional motor a few weeks back. It was advertised on Govdeals as “airplane engine“. They provided absolutely no details, but I could tell in the blurry pictures that it was a big bore continental. Included a very nice rolling stand.

I figured it was a AP school practice engine and would likely be junk but decided to roll a dice on something serviceable possibly be in there. I did note that there were no A&P schools in the county that was selling this. I paid $1000 for it.

Engine turned out to an IO-470H. The engine still has it Data plate. It had three of the cylinder removed with plexiglass covers, allowing view with the internals. It appears simply used as a display. Surprisingly it seemed to come with all of the removed parts as well.

I did not consider that it would be a fuel injected engine. There’s more different internally than I would’ve suspected. But I did find an STC that allows installation of this engine on my air frame. Which essentially create a high compression version of the O-470 for a 30 hp upgrade!

The engine also included a pallet of floodlights and some Slick four-cylinder magnetos. I sold all of that and now have about $500 and three hours of driving invested in the engine. I am quite pleased with the purchase. I understand the core charge on one of these from Continental about $15K.

Obviously, it will need a lot more work and money put into it determine serviceability before it can ever be used on an airplane.

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Good lord, what a **** show. Flying across the country to transport an item a few miles to an LTL shipper…. How common is this? Could, say, a desk jockey that hates his job make a living flying around, shaming small companies into actually shipping stuff, and make several grand a month?

Well, this guy‘s name has been mentioned several times in this thread so I wanna be clear. I do not think he’s trying to pull one over on me at all. I was warned from the beginning that I would need to beg for these parts to be expedited. I haven’t really stepped up any sort of level of harassment on the subject yet, it’s not really in my nature. Truthfully, once I get those parts back, they’re probably gonna sit for another year before I have time to install them. I just want to tie up a very important and valuable loose end for this project.

As far as the service as you are talking about, I find it shocking nobody is offering such a service on the national scale. I participate in auctions all the time that are advertised nationally with no shipping available and no service to get items to the UPS store. Just last week I tried to buy a small item from a government facility that is easy to ship. I called the local UPS stores and asked if they have a service that would pick the item up and then prepare it and ship, no luck. They did inform me that GrubHub sometimes brought items to them, but for the app rules, they must be packaged and labeled. That defeats the entire purpose, I could schedule pick up with anybody in that case.
 
I did pick up an additional motor a few weeks back. It was advertised on Govdeals as “airplane engine“. They provided absolutely no details, but I could tell in the blurry pictures that it was a big bore continental. Included a very nice rolling stand.

I figured it was a AP school practice engine and would likely be junk but decided to roll a dice on something serviceable possibly be in there. I did note that there were no A&P schools in the county that was selling this. I paid $1000 for it.

Engine turned out to an IO-470H. The engine still has it Data plate. It had three of the cylinder removed with plexiglass covers, allowing view with the internals. It appears simply used as a display. Surprisingly it seemed to come with all of the removed parts as well.

I did not consider that it would be a fuel injected engine. There’s more different internally than I would’ve suspected. But I did find an STC that allows installation of this engine on my air frame. Which essentially create a high compression version of the O-470 for a 30 hp upgrade!

The engine also included a pallet of floodlights and some Slick four-cylinder magnetos. I sold all of that and now have about $500 and three hours of driving invested in the engine. I am quite pleased with the purchase. I understand the core charge on one of these from Continental about $15K.

Obviously, it will need a lot more work and money put into it determine serviceability before it can ever be used on an airplane.

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That's a score!

I built a high compression O-470R/S for a 180. It was FAST! We were truing out around 172-174 MPH at 2500 ft last time I flew it. I can probably get you some more details if you want. You definitely need to be ready for carb ice though.

I'm shopping for some 4 cylinder slick mags for my cub if you trip across any more.
 
What is considered high compression on these? 7.5-1?
This bird originally had 7.5:1. I built one of these engines with 8.5:1 pistons and it ran pretty good. The common fear in the GA community is that avgas is going away soon though. The 7.5:1 engines will run fine on ethanol free car gas, the 8.5:1 may or may not.
 
Not much of an update, got my gear back finally. Been working hard on our second house and trying to tie up a million loose end projects in the shop to enable hitting this thing again hard. I have been considering hiring it out but need to quit paying for 2 houses first.

I went up to Oshkosh last weekend and got some good research done on how this should go together. For the first time, I had the chance to go over some of these in person. But I now have some serious doubts to the wisdom of my conventional gear swap. I have no practical need for it, I had pretty much been down to "because I can". Over the past couple years, I have been reading some alarming reports on the insurance situation. Well in Osh we saw the below airplane and several other early ones, my wife pointed out they looked "tougher" than the 180/185. I had to agree they looked great.

Putting the brackets for the nose gear on would only take a handful of hours, but there is a lot of work in the tail cone that would need to start over. Some of those holes are very tired.... There is no reason it couldn't fly fine with the tail area as is but there is no way that I know of to justify that paperwork wise.


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Not much of an update, got my gear back finally. Been working hard on our second house and trying to tie up a million loose end projects in the shop to enable hitting this thing again hard. I have been considering hiring it out but need to quit paying for 2 houses first.

I went up to Oshkosh last weekend and got some good research done on how this should go together. For the first time, I had the chance to go over some of these in person. But I now have some serious doubts to the wisdom of my conventional gear swap. I have no practical need for it, I had pretty much been down to "because I can". Over the past couple years, I have been reading some alarming reports on the insurance situation. Well in Osh we saw the below airplane and several other early ones, my wife pointed out they looked "tougher" than the 180/185. I had to agree they looked great.

Putting the brackets for the nose gear on would only take a handful of hours, but there is a lot of work in the tail cone that would need to start over. Some of those holes are very tired.... There is no reason it couldn't fly fine with the tail area as is but there is no way that I know of to justify that paperwork wise.


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I know jack about it. But it always seemed odd to me that all bush plane setups are taildraggers. The ugly ass Zenith 701s seem to get off the ground just as fast, seem to be able to stop harder without fear of putting the prop in the ground, and the pilot can see way better when taxiing an unknown airstrip.

Can the conventional gear take a bigger hit on landing, or what is the big advantage? Maybe handle holes a little better with the small wheel trailing instead of leading?
 
There’s lots of exceptions to this, but generally speaking the main gear is much more robust on these airframes. The nose gear is unable to take nearly the same abuse due to structure limitations in the design. Placing the wheel in the back moves it way behind the COG, it no longer has to face that same abuse.

Tailwheel configuration also generally has more prop clearance and easier to mount big tires.

As you observed though, a trike will generally perform better in a short take off environment if all else is the same. The design allows for a higher angle of attack on rotation, which generates more lift.
 
I’ve only flown one tail dragged. (Pitts) it was scary on the ground. But I’m a low time airplane pilot. Are you planning a lot of off airport landings?
 
I am also up to my ears in a 1956 182 resurrection, glad to see that I am not the only crazy person out there.
 
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