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The fact that any Democrat is still supporting Fauci or still taking at face value all the COVID bullshit of 2020 shows the power of rabid partisanship.
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Vaccine FAILURE, on every level.
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Kilkenny4130
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Oh I have a couple engineering managers here at work that really believe that no liberties or freedoms were impacted over the last 4 years. Actually, right up to the vice president of the company. When presented with any data disproving this, the discussion gets circular "how can you believe anything you read on the internet" and turns into "I no longer wish to discuss this with you". Willfully blatant ignorance, egotistically afraid to disrupt their prior decision making....it's maddening and I see no light in this tunnel
bigun
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Republican Rep plays audio of Fauci pushing to make people’s lives ‘difficult’ so they get vaccinated - The Daily Bo Snerdley
Republican Rep. Rich McCormick of Georgia played audio on Monday of Dr. Anthony Fauci backing efforts to force people to get vaccinated by making things “difficult” for them. Fauci testified before the House Oversight Committee’s Select Subcommittee on the Coronavirus Pandemic during a hearing...
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Republican Rep plays audio of Fauci pushing to make people’s lives ‘difficult’ so they get vaccinated
by Harold HutchisonRepublican Rep. Rich McCormick of Georgia played audio on Monday of Dr. Anthony Fauci backing efforts to force people to get vaccinated by making things “difficult” for them.
Fauci testified before the House Oversight Committee’s Select Subcommittee on the Coronavirus Pandemic during a hearing Monday. The audio was from an interview for the audiobook “Fauci,” which was released in October 2020, during which he touted efforts to make objectors to vaccination “lose their ideological bullshit.”
“Once people feel empowered and protected legally, you are going to have schools, universities and colleges are going to say, ‘You want to come to this college buddy, you’re going to get vaccinated, lady, you’re going to get vaccinated,’” Fauci said during an interview. “Big corporations like Amazon and Facebook, and all those others, are going to say ‘You want to work for us, get vaccinated,’ and it’s proven that when you make it difficult for people in their lives, they lose their ideological bullshit and they get vaccinated.”
McCornick asked Fauci if he believed that all objections to getting the COVID-19 vaccine were “ideological bullshit,” which Fauci disputed and claimed “that’s not what [he] was referring to.” McCormick then mentioned testimony from former ESPN employee Allison Williams, who resigned after seeking an exemption from a COVID-19 vaccine mandate issued by Disney, ESPN’s parent company.
“You affected people’s ability to work, travel, be educated, to actually flourish in America, to self-determine, as well as God given rights,” McCormick said. “Shame on you. Dr. Fauci, you have become Dr. Fear. Americans do not hate science, I don’t hate science. The American people hate having their freedoms taken from them. You inspired and created fear through mask mandates, school closures, vaccine mandates that have destroyed the American people’s trust in our public health institutions. This fear you created will continue to have ripple effects over generations to come.”
bigun
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Way worse than a 'Liar.' He is a murderer....of children, the elderly, the immunocompromised. And I say 'murderer' as his actions were premeditated and intentional.
EDIT: And I am aware that this went/goes WAY beyond Fauci, but he willingly and knowingly presented himself as the spokesman for this mess, and should be held accountable, accordingly (even if as a patsy).
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The vaccines were developed under Trump. Democrats would love nothing more than blame Trump for countless sudden deaths and injured people. That they aren't is a sign of how invested they are in those vaccines.
I wonder what happened to these two.
Haven't seen the video in four years, but IIRC basically they said that mortality was much lower than we were being told and that HCQ worked. Is the original video still available?
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They painted themselves into a corner when they spat upon anyone who refused or even questioned the vaccine. Harder to blame Trump when you'd have to also concede the "conspiracy theorists" were right.
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He should be, but instead he established policy and got rich off a pandemic he himself helped create. No wonder he's so smug. He's the literal embodiment of what's currently wrong in this country.
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No one should ever believe them again. They have done to the medical/scientific establishment what Ira and Afghanistan did to the MIC. We forgot the lessons of Vietnam after 9/11. Don't repeat that mistake again. But we will. Just look at Ukraine and Israel.
45acp
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I now have about the same trust in a doctor's opinion as I have in myself and Google. They're pretty much neck and neck.
nahmus
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Same,
My new doctor seems pretty cool. She asked if I was vaccinated upon initial intake but has never brought anything up since. She has not pushed anything on me and pretty much answers my questions. We'll see how it goes. My first primary in a long time.
My new doctor seems pretty cool. She asked if I was vaccinated upon initial intake but has never brought anything up since. She has not pushed anything on me and pretty much answers my questions. We'll see how it goes. My first primary in a long time.
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I haven't gone to a primary care physician in nearly a decade. Now that there are labs that'll run your blood work for you I don't see much of a need. If something specific pops up, just go directly to the specialist. You pretty much only go to a primary care doctor to figure out if you actually need to go to the doctor. If you get an infected cut or something of that nature urgent care can write a script for an antibiotic.
Ummduh
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That's my dad to a T.
If you read it really anywhere but the Milwaukee journal sentinel news paper it's all horseshit. But if it's in his newspaper it's better than gospel.
Lawless
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I trust myself and my own research way more than almost any doctors anymore, I've caught way too many "mistakes" in the last few years.
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nahmus
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I said this way back when this covid was in full swing. The WHO and the "establishment" burned any credibility they had with the public. Sheep will still be sheep. One day there will be something serious. Where you really should get a vaccine and nobody will believe them again.
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Very much this.
The people (in some kind of power) think they know what's going, but they're blind to what's going on outside their shallow focus.
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Dr. Deborah Birx admits effort to 'discredit' lab leak theory to CNN: 'I do think it happened' · American Wire News
Dr. Deborah Birx admitted there was an effort to squash the lab leak theory during an appearance Monday on CNN.
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Dr. Deborah Birx admits effort to ‘discredit’ lab leak theory to CNN: ‘I do think it happened’
June 4, 2024 | Tom TillisonDr. Anthony Fauci’s appearance Monday before the House Oversight Select Subcommittee on the Coronavirus Pandemic brought renewed focus on whether the COVID-19 pandemic began as a result of a lab leak in Wuhan, China.
On the issue, the former director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases now claimed he is open to the possibility and denied trying to suppress the theory or conceal any relevant information about a potential leak, calling such accusations “absolutely false and simply preposterous.”
“I don’t think the concept of there being a lab leak is inherently a conspiracy theory,” Fauci said. “What is conspiracy is the kind of distortions of that particular subject, like it was a lab leak and I was parachuted into the CIA like Jason Bourne and told the CIA that they should really not be talking about a lab leak. That’s the conspiracy.”
Dr. Deborah Birx, who served as former President Donald Trump’s White House Coronavirus Response Coordinator, appeared Monday on CNN and admitted there was an effort to discredit the lab leak theory when asked if there was any veracity to the argument.
“I think early on, people did take very definitive sides, and it did divide along party lines, and we’re still suffering from that four years later,” Birx told CNN’s Kasie Hunt. “I do think it happened. If you look at what people said about Bob Redfield and how they disparaged him as a scientist because he wanted to bring forward the lab leak potential.”
Redfield, a former director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), was widely ridiculed and dismissed when he suggested early on that coronavirus started in a lab.
“When I said before that I didn’t think it was biologically plausible that COVID-19 went from a bat to some unknown animal into man and now had become one of the most infectious viruses,” Redfield said in June 2021. “That’s not consistent with how other coronaviruses have come into the human species. And, it does suggest that there’s an alternative hypothesis that it went from a bat virus, got into a laboratory, where in the laboratory, it was taught, educated, it evolved, so that it became a virus that could efficiently transmit human to human.”
Birx said lab leaks “definitely” happen and pointed out that “people got infected with HIV in the lab.”
“And so we have to put different rules and regulations and guidelines in place to protect the public. We can do that. We‘ve done that before,” she added.
As for the hearing, Birx spoke about one good thing, “It’s our opportunity to really decide as a global community how we’re going to control laboratory experiments in a way that protects the public.”
Fauci defiantly stood his ground on vaccines, citing a study to tell the committee, “People that refuse to get vaccinated for any variety of reasons [were] probably responsible for an additional 200,000 to 300,000 deaths in this country.”
“Vaccines save lives. It is very, very clear that vaccines have saved hundreds of thousands of Americans and millions worldwide,” he claimed, before insisting, “In the beginning, it clearly prevented infection in a certain percentage of people.”
He also suggested business closures, church closures, school closures, and stay-at-home orders were justified.
“Again, this was when we were trying to stop the tsunami of deaths that were occurring early on—how long you kept them going is debatable,” he said.
The man who once declared that he is science admitted there were no studies justifying the masking of 5-year-old children
“There was no study that did masks on kids before,” Fauci said. “You couldn’t do the study. You had to respond to an epidemic that was killing 4-5,000 Americans a day.”
He also admitted there was no real science behind the six-foot social distancing rule, which he pushed off on the CDC.
“It actually came from the CDC,” Fauci said. “The CDC was responsible for those kinds of guidelines for schools, not me. So when I said that, it just appeared. It appeared. Was there any science behind it? What I meant by no science behind it is that there wasn’t a controlled trial.”
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Make no mistake, the whole COVID debacle represents the most egregious crime against humanity in the past several centuries. The fact that there will never be accountability says a lot about the kind of times we are living in.
bigun
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Fauci and Berks are just the faces, if you watched Beck's piece there are lots more government and corperations involved,, in the lead up and actual pandemic.
Friend of mine suffers from Morgellones
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in the article they claim it is self delusional, I have seen the stuff his wife has pulled out of the sores that damn near caused him to eat a bullet because of the pain.
New article came out that they believe now it maybe related to Lyme disease which was possibly played with by a government lab
Friend of mine suffers from Morgellones
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in the article they claim it is self delusional, I have seen the stuff his wife has pulled out of the sores that damn near caused him to eat a bullet because of the pain.
New article came out that they believe now it maybe related to Lyme disease which was possibly played with by a government lab
45acp
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Well FWIW the 1st gen covid-19 was supposed to be serious. It was supposed to kill 10+% the population of earth. But they didn't have enough time to get it dialed in and had to release it before it was ready.
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Sadly this was not Fauci's first rodeo research his role in the AID's epidemic in the early 80's. He killed people with his response to that also. How he managed to keep his medical license and job after screwing up like he has shows you how incompetent the government is.
Thats why I call him Dr Mengele Fauci.
Yota Up
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He was kept on because he was willing to do as told and to be the face on any given nefarious project the deep state wants to push.
Just like Biden in office is no accident, and it's not a reflection of the government being incompetent, but rather an indication of their evil instead.
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Dr. Deborah Birx admits effort to 'discredit' lab leak theory to CNN: 'I do think it happened' · American Wire News
Dr. Deborah Birx admitted there was an effort to squash the lab leak theory during an appearance Monday on CNN.
Dr. Deborah Birx admits effort to ‘discredit’ lab leak theory to CNN: ‘I do think it happened’
June 4, 2024 | Tom Tillison
Dr. Anthony Fauci’s appearance Monday before the House Oversight Select Subcommittee on the Coronavirus Pandemic brought renewed focus on whether the COVID-19 pandemic began as a result of a lab leak in Wuhan, China.
On the issue, the former director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases now claimed he is open to the possibility and denied trying to suppress the theory or conceal any relevant information about a potential leak, calling such accusations “absolutely false and simply preposterous.”
“I don’t think the concept of there being a lab leak is inherently a conspiracy theory,” Fauci said. “What is conspiracy is the kind of distortions of that particular subject, like it was a lab leak and I was parachuted into the CIA like Jason Bourne and told the CIA that they should really not be talking about a lab leak. That’s the conspiracy.”
Dr. Deborah Birx, who served as former President Donald Trump’s White House Coronavirus Response Coordinator, appeared Monday on CNN and admitted there was an effort to discredit the lab leak theory when asked if there was any veracity to the argument.
“I think early on, people did take very definitive sides, and it did divide along party lines, and we’re still suffering from that four years later,” Birx told CNN’s Kasie Hunt. “I do think it happened. If you look at what people said about Bob Redfield and how they disparaged him as a scientist because he wanted to bring forward the lab leak potential.”
Redfield, a former director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), was widely ridiculed and dismissed when he suggested early on that coronavirus started in a lab.
“When I said before that I didn’t think it was biologically plausible that COVID-19 went from a bat to some unknown animal into man and now had become one of the most infectious viruses,” Redfield said in June 2021. “That’s not consistent with how other coronaviruses have come into the human species. And, it does suggest that there’s an alternative hypothesis that it went from a bat virus, got into a laboratory, where in the laboratory, it was taught, educated, it evolved, so that it became a virus that could efficiently transmit human to human.”
Birx said lab leaks “definitely” happen and pointed out that “people got infected with HIV in the lab.”
“And so we have to put different rules and regulations and guidelines in place to protect the public. We can do that. We‘ve done that before,” she added.
As for the hearing, Birx spoke about one good thing, “It’s our opportunity to really decide as a global community how we’re going to control laboratory experiments in a way that protects the public.”
Fauci defiantly stood his ground on vaccines, citing a study to tell the committee, “People that refuse to get vaccinated for any variety of reasons [were] probably responsible for an additional 200,000 to 300,000 deaths in this country.”
“Vaccines save lives. It is very, very clear that vaccines have saved hundreds of thousands of Americans and millions worldwide,” he claimed, before insisting, “In the beginning, it clearly prevented infection in a certain percentage of people.”
He also suggested business closures, church closures, school closures, and stay-at-home orders were justified.
“Again, this was when we were trying to stop the tsunami of deaths that were occurring early on—how long you kept them going is debatable,” he said.
The man who once declared that he is science admitted there were no studies justifying the masking of 5-year-old children
“There was no study that did masks on kids before,” Fauci said. “You couldn’t do the study. You had to respond to an epidemic that was killing 4-5,000 Americans a day.”
He also admitted there was no real science behind the six-foot social distancing rule, which he pushed off on the CDC.
“It actually came from the CDC,” Fauci said. “The CDC was responsible for those kinds of guidelines for schools, not me. So when I said that, it just appeared. It appeared. Was there any science behind it? What I meant by no science behind it is that there wasn’t a controlled trial.”
at the bg pouting guy at 1:18 when fouchie's crying about his threats
Ksand
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It's really a fascinating virus. It attacks based on what you're doing, time of day, what way you walk down an isle, if you're standing in a restaurant instead of eating and more