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The fact that any Democrat is still supporting Fauci or still taking at face value all the COVID bullshit of 2020 shows the power of rabid partisanship.
The fact that any Democrat is still supporting Fauci or still taking at face value all the COVID bullshit of 2020 shows the power of rabid partisanship.
Way worse than a 'Liar.' He is a murderer....of children, the elderly, the immunocompromised. And I say 'murderer' as his actions were premeditated and intentional.
The fact that any Democrat is still supporting Fauci or still taking at face value all the COVID bullshit of 2020 shows the power of rabid partisanship.
I wonder what happened to these two.
The vaccines were developed under Trump. Democrats would love nothing more than blame Trump for countless sudden deaths and injured people. That they aren't is a sign of how invested they are in those vaccines.
He should be, but instead he established policy and got rich off a pandemic he himself helped create. No wonder he's so smug. He's the literal embodiment of what's currently wrong in this country.He should be tried, convicted and executed for all the deaths he is responsible for.
But, he won't be.
I now have about the same trust in a doctor's opinion as I have in myself and Google. They're pretty much neck and neck.No one should ever believe them again. They have done to the medical/scientific establishment what Ira and Afghanistan did to the MIC. We forgot the lessons of Vietnam after 9/11. Don't repeat that mistake again. But we will. Just look at Ukraine and Israel.
Same,
My new doctor seems pretty cool. She asked if I was vaccinated upon initial intake but has never brought anything up since. She has not pushed anything on me and pretty much answers my questions. We'll see how it goes. My first primary in a long time.
Oh I have a couple engineering managers here at work that really believe that no liberties or freedoms were impacted over the last 4 years. Actually, right up to the vice president of the company. When presented with any data disproving this, the discussion gets circular "how can you believe anything you read on the internet" and turns into "I no longer wish to discuss this with you". Willfully blatant ignorance, egotistically afraid to disrupt their prior decision making....it's maddening and I see no light in this tunnel
I trust myself and my own research way more than almost any doctors anymore, I've caught way too many "mistakes" in the last few years.I now have about the same trust in a doctor's opinion as I have in myself and Google. They're pretty much neck and neck.
That's my dad to a T.
If you read it really anywhere but the Milwaukee journal sentinel news paper it's all horseshit. But if it's in his newspaper it's better than gospel.
"Briefly stated, the Gell-Mann Amnesia effect is as follows. You open the newspaper to an article on some subject you know well. In Murray's case, physics. In mine, show business. You read the article and see the journalist has absolutely no understanding of either the facts or the issues. Often, the article is so wrong it actually presents the story backward—reversing cause and effect. I call these the "wet streets cause rain" stories. Paper's full of them.
In any case, you read with exasperation or amusement the multiple errors in a story, and then turn the page to national or international affairs, and read as if the rest of the newspaper was somehow more accurate about Palestine than the baloney you just read. You turn the page, and forget what you know."
– Michael Crichton (1942-2008)
Mark Twain said, "If you don’t read the newspaper you are uninformed, if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed."
I said this way back when this covid was in full swing. The WHO and the "establishment" burned any credibility they had with the public. Sheep will still be sheep. One day there will be something serious. Where you really should get a vaccine and nobody will believe them again.
He should be tried, convicted and executed for all the deaths he is responsible for.
But, he won't be.
One day there will be something serious. Where you really should get a vaccine and nobody will believe them again.
Sadly this was not Fauci's first rodeo research his role in the AID's epidemic in the early 80's. He killed people with his response to that also. How he managed to keep his medical license and job after screwing up like he has shows you how incompetent the government is.Way worse than a 'Liar.' He is a murderer....of children, the elderly, the immunocompromised. And I say 'murderer' as his actions were premeditated and intentional.
EDIT: And I am aware that this went/goes WAY beyond Fauci, but he willingly and knowingly presented himself as the spokesman for this mess, and should be held accountable, accordingly (even if as a patsy).
He was kept on because he was willing to do as told and to be the face on any given nefarious project the deep state wants to push.Sadly this was not Fauci's first rodeo research his role in the AID's epidemic in the early 80's. He killed people with his response to that also. How he managed to keep his medical license and job after screwing up like he has shows you how incompetent the government is.
Dr. Deborah Birx admits effort to 'discredit' lab leak theory to CNN: 'I do think it happened' · American Wire News
Dr. Deborah Birx admitted there was an effort to squash the lab leak theory during an appearance Monday on CNN.americanwirenews.com
Dr. Deborah Birx admits effort to ‘discredit’ lab leak theory to CNN: ‘I do think it happened’
June 4, 2024 | Tom Tillison
Dr. Anthony Fauci’s appearance Monday before the House Oversight Select Subcommittee on the Coronavirus Pandemic brought renewed focus on whether the COVID-19 pandemic began as a result of a lab leak in Wuhan, China.
On the issue, the former director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases now claimed he is open to the possibility and denied trying to suppress the theory or conceal any relevant information about a potential leak, calling such accusations “absolutely false and simply preposterous.”
“I don’t think the concept of there being a lab leak is inherently a conspiracy theory,” Fauci said. “What is conspiracy is the kind of distortions of that particular subject, like it was a lab leak and I was parachuted into the CIA like Jason Bourne and told the CIA that they should really not be talking about a lab leak. That’s the conspiracy.”
Dr. Deborah Birx, who served as former President Donald Trump’s White House Coronavirus Response Coordinator, appeared Monday on CNN and admitted there was an effort to discredit the lab leak theory when asked if there was any veracity to the argument.
“I think early on, people did take very definitive sides, and it did divide along party lines, and we’re still suffering from that four years later,” Birx told CNN’s Kasie Hunt. “I do think it happened. If you look at what people said about Bob Redfield and how they disparaged him as a scientist because he wanted to bring forward the lab leak potential.”
Redfield, a former director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), was widely ridiculed and dismissed when he suggested early on that coronavirus started in a lab.
“When I said before that I didn’t think it was biologically plausible that COVID-19 went from a bat to some unknown animal into man and now had become one of the most infectious viruses,” Redfield said in June 2021. “That’s not consistent with how other coronaviruses have come into the human species. And, it does suggest that there’s an alternative hypothesis that it went from a bat virus, got into a laboratory, where in the laboratory, it was taught, educated, it evolved, so that it became a virus that could efficiently transmit human to human.”
Birx said lab leaks “definitely” happen and pointed out that “people got infected with HIV in the lab.”
“And so we have to put different rules and regulations and guidelines in place to protect the public. We can do that. We‘ve done that before,” she added.
As for the hearing, Birx spoke about one good thing, “It’s our opportunity to really decide as a global community how we’re going to control laboratory experiments in a way that protects the public.”
Fauci defiantly stood his ground on vaccines, citing a study to tell the committee, “People that refuse to get vaccinated for any variety of reasons [were] probably responsible for an additional 200,000 to 300,000 deaths in this country.”
“Vaccines save lives. It is very, very clear that vaccines have saved hundreds of thousands of Americans and millions worldwide,” he claimed, before insisting, “In the beginning, it clearly prevented infection in a certain percentage of people.”
He also suggested business closures, church closures, school closures, and stay-at-home orders were justified.
“Again, this was when we were trying to stop the tsunami of deaths that were occurring early on—how long you kept them going is debatable,” he said.
The man who once declared that he is science admitted there were no studies justifying the masking of 5-year-old children
“There was no study that did masks on kids before,” Fauci said. “You couldn’t do the study. You had to respond to an epidemic that was killing 4-5,000 Americans a day.”
He also admitted there was no real science behind the six-foot social distancing rule, which he pushed off on the CDC.
“It actually came from the CDC,” Fauci said. “The CDC was responsible for those kinds of guidelines for schools, not me. So when I said that, it just appeared. It appeared. Was there any science behind it? What I meant by no science behind it is that there wasn’t a controlled trial.”
It's really a fascinating virus. It attacks based on what you're doing, time of day, what way you walk down an isle, if you're standing in a restaurant instead of eating and more