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Vaccine FAILURE, on every level.

Remember them saying you can't get Flu symptoms from a flu shot? I had it happen once and that was the last time I got a flu shot over 20 years ago. But medical professionals will still deny that it happens. Maybe thats part of the reason I don't believe everything they say.
 
Remember them saying you can't get Flu symptoms from a flu shot? I had it happen once and that was the last time I got a flu shot over 20 years ago. But medical professionals will still deny that it happens. Maybe thats part of the reason I don't believe everything they say.

My father inlaw is a retired pediatrician and he almost died about 20 years ago from a fluke severe reaction to the flu shot so obviously he stopped getting it. It was never an issue until COVID when they tried to force him to get it again. They pulled a power move on him and told him to either get the shot or be forced to retire. He said he'll start packing his shit and they tried to backtrack but he was like nope, that ship has sailed. I was planning to work two more years until I turned 70 but y'all done fucked up now. I'm out. :laughing:
 
Remember them saying you can't get Flu symptoms from a flu shot? I had it happen once and that was the last time I got a flu shot over 20 years ago. But medical professionals will still deny that it happens. Maybe thats part of the reason I don't believe everything they say.
one year I got the flue shot I got the freaking H1N1. Never been sicker in my life and I’ve had both kinds of pneumonia concurrently when I was a kid… the next time was 2019 and I got soooo sick in Dec 19 before covid was a thing….

The flue shot was never about stoping spread or sickness, it was a calculated attempt to keep workers at work through the work season. You still transmit the virus when you have the vaccine.
 
Annual Flu shot.
Annual Cold (Covid) shot.

Big Pharma needed a reason to push an annual Cold shot.
The Deep State needed a way to cheat enough to steal the election from Trump.

Here's an idea, we use the Propaganda Machine that nearly everyone trusts (Mainstream Media) to hype this year's cold, giving it a new "scary" name, tell everyone they're going to die if they get it, force everyone to stay in their homes and accept a mail in ballot, and then "miraculously" deliver a (cold shot we've already developed) vaccine in months (which would typically take years) and we'll get a huge portion of the population to buy into the "cold shot".

Yep, that just might work...
 
Remember them saying you can't get Flu symptoms from a flu shot? I had it happen once and that was the last time I got a flu shot over 20 years ago. But medical professionals will still deny that it happens. Maybe thats part of the reason I don't believe everything they say.
The Army made me get the Flu shot every year and every year it made me sick for a day or two after with "flu like symptoms".

I haven't had one since I got out in '95 and I've gotten "the Flu" maybe 3 times since then.
 
Remember them saying you can't get Flu symptoms from a flu shot? I had it happen once and that was the last time I got a flu shot over 20 years ago. But medical professionals will still deny that it happens. Maybe thats part of the reason I don't believe everything they say.

I've had 2 bad reactions to flu shots.

First time I went to the doc for something else and was on the tail end of having a cold. Still had some mild symptoms, but not a fever. He suggested I get a flu shot. I did.

Shortly after that I came down with a godawful cough. Like hacking a lung up cough. Hot, cold, humid, dry, active or in a dead sleep...all of a sudden I would just start hacking. Had some tests, diagnosed as exercise induced asthma. Told them they were full of shit. Went on for almost 6 months then just stopped.

I started getting them more regularly a few years later due to being on the FD and dealing with sick people. 2 days after I got my last one, I was shitting and puking then fainted. Cracked a couple teeth on the fireplace. Swore off flu vaccines at that point and have been healthier since.

Most vaccines are a scam.
 
I've never had a bad reaction to a flu shot but then again the only time I ever actually got the flu shot was when my daughter was born at the end of October in 2015. Okay, I'll get the flu shot this year.
 
Related on the shot subject: 5 or 6 years ago I got some injury, don't even remember what, and decided to get a Tetanus shot since I couldn't remember when my last one had been.
The PA who administered the shot at a little grocery store clinic told me that not even 1 person per year was treated for or died of Tetanus. I still got the shot but have reflected on that a few times since then. Google AI results just told me that in 2018 and 19 there were no cases and another result said in the US there are around 30 cases per year average. A lot higher in other countries.

Not sure if I'll ever get another Tetanus shot, would never get a Covid one, might get a flu one if I live to 75 or something.:vader2:
 
Criminy sakes, I'm old and "healthy" ... taken a flu shot for years since my Mrs has immune issues.

Not completely sure what to do right now, I already told our Doc no more mRNA injections for me.

Me ... personally I've never had "the flu" :shaking:
If you want to get the flu shot, be particular about which one you get.
You want the live activated injection, the traditional one.

It would be nice if the posters above this post would specify what kind of flu shots they got when referring to their prior experiences.
 
If you want to get the flu shot, be particular about which one you get.
You want the live activated injection, the traditional one.

It would be nice if the posters above this post would specify what kind of flu shots they got when referring to their prior experiences.

Cuz even if I asked in 2001 I sure as shit wouldn't remember which one it was.

Second one was sometime after 2006 but before 2011...I think.

Tell you what, I'll ask the doc to dig through my records to satisfy your curiousity. :flipoff2:

Or not
 
If you want to get the flu shot, be particular about which one you get.
You want the live activated injection, the traditional one.

It would be nice if the posters above this post would specify what kind of flu shots they got when referring to their prior experiences.
Yes, I'm off to Walgreens this morning to see which variant they've got.

Plain old attenuated virus please :)
 
This is the only COVID thread other than the one abou Fauci that comes up in search


Ex-CDC boss makes shocking claim were COVID may have come from, and it’s not China​

November 18, 2024 | Kevin Haggerty | Print Article

Facts and theories blended throughout a bombshell interview as the former CDC director made a COVID-19 origin claim prior to any suggestion of a Chinese lab leak.
Throughout their responses and the myriad subsequent testimonies and investigations, Dr. Anthony Fauci and Dr. Robert Redfield were often at odds, particularly with regard to the origin of the virus. During a recent podcast discussion with author Dana Parish, the former head of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reaffirmed his stance on the lab leak with a proposed start in North Carolina.
Joining Parish on her “3rd Opinion Podcast,” Redfield steered the conversation toward the possible engineering of COVID as he said, “You were just asking me how I think… this vaccine was — this virus was engineered. I think it was intentionally engineered as a part of a biodefense program.”
“Some have said that they are concerned that it was actually developed here and China was right. Is that possible?” posited Parish to which her guest replied, “Well, I don’t know if they were framed, but I think there is a real possibility that the virus’ birthplace was Chapel Hill.”


Having been asked about the United States’ role, the virologist said, “Well, I think it was substantial. And this is why, you know, when you look at the accountability for China, their accountability is not in the lab work and in the creation of the virus. Their accountability is not following the international health regulations after they realized that they had a problem, and allowing people like me at CDC to come in and to help them within 48 hours like they were obligated to based on the treaty.”

“But the U.S. role was substantial. One is they funded the research both from NIH, the State Department, USAID, and the Defense Department. All four of those agencies helped fund this research. Secondly, the scientific mastermind behind this research is a guy named Ralph Baric at the University of North Carolina, and he was very involved in this research,” asserted Redfield.
“I think he probably helped create some of the original viral lines, but I can’t prove that,” added the former CDC director. “But he was very involved.”
After retiring as head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, Fauci was often heard being outraged over any allegations or implications suggesting wrongdoing on his part, including countering claims from Redfield on matters like who had participated in calls on the origin of the virus.
“He’s wrong on every single account,” the face of the COVID response told NewsNation host Chris Cuomo after Redfield had testified that his lab leak theory had kept him out of a conference call.

During his peddling of “The Science™,” Fauci routinely knocked suggestions of gain-of-function research funding. Meanwhile, a previous report presented similar claims to Redfield’s as it detailed a U.S. taxpayer-funded study a year before COVID became a household word that linked the National Institute of Health’s Rocky Mountain Laboratories to the Wuhan Institute of Virology.
The facility, then overseen by Fauci, published research on a “SARS-like WIV1-coronavirus” imported from a Chinese lab with authors including a known WIV collaborator from the University of North Carolina, Ralph Baric.



Parish proceeded to ask her guest, “What happened at the military games in October 2019?”
“Well, in August/September, the initial cases of COVID in Wuhan began. Clearly, by the middle of September, there was a significant problem. Okay, because — and I can’t remember the exact date. I think it’s in the public domain now, it was classified, but I think it was Sept. 19 — but they did three things,” he explained. “They changed the leadership of the lab. Since it was a dual-use lab they changed it from civilian to military. So the military was now put in charge of the lab. They did something highly irregular, [which] is they deleted the research sequences of COVID viruses that they had done years before. So the whole database was deleted.”
The entire interview wherein Redfield speaks about the COVID mRNA injections, transmission, and Fauci can be viewed below via Parish’s YouTube channel:
 
Only a rumor so far.
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It's Time to Redefine "Fringe"
Critics of the rumored nomination of Dr. Jay Bhattacharya as director of the National Institutes of Health need to check the election returns
Matt Taibbi
Nov 19



The Washington Post couldn’t get through an article about Stanford’s Dr. Jay Bhattacharya without using the F-word. The sub-headline from Saturday read, “The Stanford physician was excoriated by NIH’s director in 2020 for his “fringe” ideas on Covid. Four years later, he’s poised for power in Trump’s Washington.”

It couldn’t leave out the C-word, either:

[Bhattacharya’s] stances — and alliances — have also alienated him from many public health professionals, including on Bhattacharya’s own college campus…”We need to have an honest conversation about how a handful of prominent contrarian academics backed by corporate interests continue to tank evidence-backed policy, including COVID-19 protections,” Mallory Harris, a postdoctoral fellow at the University of Maryland who received her PhD in biology from Stanford this year, wrote last month…

If Donald Trump creates the position, I volunteer to be Secretary of Feeding People to Komodo Dragons. The first round of tossings into the lizard-pit will involve “experts” who still use grossly snobbish terms like “fringe” and “contrarian” to describe beliefs held by most of the population:

Racket readers are familiar with Stanford’s Bhattacharya, who played a role in the Twitter Files and went on to become a plaintiff in the Murthy v. Missouri Supreme Court case. There’s probably no more visible symbol of the digital censorship era than Jay and co-plaintiffs Drs. Martin Kulldorff and Aaron Kheriaty. Given that speech issues were reportedly right behind inflation among the top concerns of voters, it’s hard to see how anyone could keep throwing the “fringe” tag with a straight face.

Jay’s crime was conducting an early field study called “COVID-19 Antibody Seroprevalence in Santa Clara County, California” that uncovered two surprises about what was then still a new pandemic story. The first was that far more people were already infected with Covid-19 in Santa Clara in early April, 2020 than was expected, as many as 50 to 85 times more. He also found the infection mortality rate of Covid-19 was far lower than authorities were suggesting, closer to 0.2% than the nightmare 3.4% number the WHO put out, and still lower for the healthy and non-elderly.

This led Jay to conclude that a) lockdowns and other interventions would not be likely to stop people from getting such a contagious disease, and b) the lower mortality rates for people outside of a few high-risk groups meant the costs of lockdowns probably outweighed benefits.

The country by now mostly agrees. In March, Harvard conducted a study of attitudes about Covid-19 policies. Fourteen percent believed Covid was only a threat “to the small share of people who were very old or frail.” The biggest group was the one Jay likely falls in: the 45% of people who believed Covid-19 a threat to “a lot of people, including people who were very old or frail AND those who had underlying medical conditions.” A smaller group of 37% characterized the disease as “a serious health threat to everyone.” Who are the “contrarians” in that distribution?

On lockdowns: after the initial panic, whenever the public was asked to make yes or no decisions about school closures, most said no. There was the 79% of parents of K-12 students who supported a return to in-person learning a year into the pandemic, and the 51% of Americans in 2022 who believed school closures were unnecessary. Even CNN, when referencing the 2022 poll, ran a headline story about how the coronavirus debate about school closures “has hurt Democrats.” Even if you believed polls overcounted opposition to school closures by ten or even twenty percent, the remainder would still be a large percentage of Americans: hardly “fringe.”

Through the Trump era, “contrarian” was and is the most irritating of propaganda terms, implying acceptance of official views is the human animal’s natural orientation. The era saw broadsides against “contrarian doctors” like Jay, while the New York Times derided their former reporter Alex Berenson in a “Covid Contrarians Go Viral” piece. Once of America’s current crew of bêtes noires, Joe Rogan, is regularly derided for a willingness to “absorb contrarian perspectives,” as if that were not the obvious mission of any talk show host, and the Stanford Daily in 2020 admonished its own professor in Jay for writing a “contrarian Covid declaration.” The Post this weekend made sure to include that Rogan was among Bhattacharya’s “media cheerleaders,” to remind you that Bhattacharya codes as verboten even if nothing about his actual person seems objectionable.

Anyone who’s met Jay will report that he’s one of the world’s most affable people, a listener by nature and moderate not just in policy, but behavior and temperament. His elevation to this post represents a successful demonstration of the democratic instinct. He published research that coincided with the experiences of working parents, who saw that their kids seemed to be suffering more from not being at school than they appeared to from Covid-19, then voted accordingly.

To watch him now being trashed as a fringe kook and a tool of “dark money” who just wanted to force Covid on the world to widen the labor pool would be shocking, except that no propaganda response can be a surprise. A paper with the Washington Post’s circulation issues would normally be careful before calling anyone else “fringe,” but these still aren’t normal times, are they?

 
This is the only COVID thread other than the one abou Fauci that comes up in search


Ex-CDC boss makes shocking claim were COVID may have come from, and it’s not China​

November 18, 2024 | Kevin Haggerty | Print Article

Facts and theories blended throughout a bombshell interview as the former CDC director made a COVID-19 origin claim prior to any suggestion of a Chinese lab leak.
Throughout their responses and the myriad subsequent testimonies and investigations, Dr. Anthony Fauci and Dr. Robert Redfield were often at odds, particularly with regard to the origin of the virus. During a recent podcast discussion with author Dana Parish, the former head of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reaffirmed his stance on the lab leak with a proposed start in North Carolina.
Joining Parish on her “3rd Opinion Podcast,” Redfield steered the conversation toward the possible engineering of COVID as he said, “You were just asking me how I think… this vaccine was — this virus was engineered. I think it was intentionally engineered as a part of a biodefense program.”
“Some have said that they are concerned that it was actually developed here and China was right. Is that possible?” posited Parish to which her guest replied, “Well, I don’t know if they were framed, but I think there is a real possibility that the virus’ birthplace was Chapel Hill.”


Having been asked about the United States’ role, the virologist said, “Well, I think it was substantial. And this is why, you know, when you look at the accountability for China, their accountability is not in the lab work and in the creation of the virus. Their accountability is not following the international health regulations after they realized that they had a problem, and allowing people like me at CDC to come in and to help them within 48 hours like they were obligated to based on the treaty.”

“But the U.S. role was substantial. One is they funded the research both from NIH, the State Department, USAID, and the Defense Department. All four of those agencies helped fund this research. Secondly, the scientific mastermind behind this research is a guy named Ralph Baric at the University of North Carolina, and he was very involved in this research,” asserted Redfield.
“I think he probably helped create some of the original viral lines, but I can’t prove that,” added the former CDC director. “But he was very involved.”
After retiring as head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, Fauci was often heard being outraged over any allegations or implications suggesting wrongdoing on his part, including countering claims from Redfield on matters like who had participated in calls on the origin of the virus.
“He’s wrong on every single account,” the face of the COVID response told NewsNation host Chris Cuomo after Redfield had testified that his lab leak theory had kept him out of a conference call.

During his peddling of “The Science™,” Fauci routinely knocked suggestions of gain-of-function research funding. Meanwhile, a previous report presented similar claims to Redfield’s as it detailed a U.S. taxpayer-funded study a year before COVID became a household word that linked the National Institute of Health’s Rocky Mountain Laboratories to the Wuhan Institute of Virology.
The facility, then overseen by Fauci, published research on a “SARS-like WIV1-coronavirus” imported from a Chinese lab with authors including a known WIV collaborator from the University of North Carolina, Ralph Baric.



Parish proceeded to ask her guest, “What happened at the military games in October 2019?”
“Well, in August/September, the initial cases of COVID in Wuhan began. Clearly, by the middle of September, there was a significant problem. Okay, because — and I can’t remember the exact date. I think it’s in the public domain now, it was classified, but I think it was Sept. 19 — but they did three things,” he explained. “They changed the leadership of the lab. Since it was a dual-use lab they changed it from civilian to military. So the military was now put in charge of the lab. They did something highly irregular, [which] is they deleted the research sequences of COVID viruses that they had done years before. So the whole database was deleted.”
The entire interview wherein Redfield speaks about the COVID mRNA injections, transmission, and Fauci can be viewed below via Parish’s YouTube channel:


I remember this floating around during the scamdemic.

And I wouldn't dismiss it.
 
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