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Vaccination mandates on the horizon.

Ummduh said:
A cleanup after a certain job was run. We heated the solvent to around 140f to clean the adhesive off the equipment.

Safety dept ran tests and determined it wasn't a safety threat. However after a couple hours of hovering over these open barrels of hot solvent (ethyl acetate, I believe) I'd start getting light headed. So I asked to get a respirator. Solid no, due to then having to test regularly and whatnot and besides they determined it wasn't necessary. So I said I'll bring my own in... And that's when I was flat out told if I do I'm fired.

I haven't kept up with what's been going on in that dept. Last I saw they started getting the guys some kind of charcoal impregnated n95 style mask.

Edit: my situation was before the covid bullshit.
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Next time say your getting light headed, this seems unsafe. I'm wearing protection or calling OSHA. Your move. They will just be fine with whatever you do. :laughing:
 
jpmassey said:
Wtf? Why would they care if you wear a respirator for chemicals? That's a huge liability for them should something happen.
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Because if it isn't company supplied they're still liable for any issues that may arise with its use. And if they get me one to wear, then it also has to become a procedure, and then they have to qualify and require and test and yadda yadda yadda. That was the explanation.

Like I said I don't know where they went with this, I haven't been in a production role for a few years now.

I was allowed to bring my own welding helmet though 🤔
 
Ummduh said:
Because if it isn't company supplied they're still liable for any issues that may arise with its use. And if they get me one to wear, then it also has to become a procedure, and then they have to qualify and require and test and yadda yadda yadda. That was the explanation.

Like I said I don't know where they went with this, I haven't been in a production role for a few years now.

I was allowed to bring my own welding helmet though 🤔
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And then they also have to test the air to make sure its safe and he has to take a FIT test to make sure he can safely wear said respirator.

Aaron Z
 
TrailTamer said:
I called this out since the “lock down to flatten the curve” started in early 2020. 😡

Have you ever wonder why the RONA “cured” influenza? I truly think they just counted it as a covid.

Early into the plannedemic, cdc used to have 2 datas; P&I (pneumonia and influenza) and PIC (pneumonia, influenza and covid). Comparing to both’s mortality rates was easy to recognize that deaths caused exclusively by covid is negligible!
P&I is no longer available the last time I searched! It’s all 3. Can’t look up data for just one of them. They all 3 are lumped together.

The best way I can explain on what I’ve read and people I talked to about the RONA; the beer flu essentially is just a “gatekeeper” to influenza or pneumonia if you’re to get really sick or dying. Violently ill or dying by just the covid and nothing else is rare or nonexistence.
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According to the CDC, Influenza is making a ‘comeback after a year off’. Lol.

That was a headline as if a virus needs time off and actually takes it, only to test, regroup, and ready to start again.

CDC influenza numbers were in the 4 digits during CV19.
Gee, it’s almost as if they renamed common Influenza as CV 19 and Influenza disappeared from the roles.

Now that CV19 is losing steam, it’s time to reunite Influenza into the mix. And be so bold as to call it Flurona

If you can’t see the absolute comical absurdity of this whole thing by now....
Get your flu shot.
( it’s probably the vax in disguise) but the sheep aren’t paying attention anyway.
 
VEX said:
Get your flu shot.
( it’s probably the vax in disguise) but the sheep aren’t paying attention anyway.
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Plenty of cases where people went in for a flu shot and got the vax instead. Walgreens. Different states. Unreal.
 
TrailTamer said:
Source???
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www.cnn.com

Parents say Walgreens mistakenly injected them and their two kids with the Covid-19 vaccine instead of flu shot

Joshua and Alexandra Price say they and their two children were mistakenly given the Covid-19 vaccine instead of a flu shot a week ago at their local pharmacy -- and they are now dealing with some adverse symptoms.
www.cnn.com www.cnn.com

indiana

www.newsweek.com

Mother and Daughter Mistakenly Given COVID Vaccines Instead of Flu Shots

Jenna Bardarson urged parents: "Double-check with your health-care provider or whoever is doing it, just make sure they have the right medication."
www.newsweek.com www.newsweek.com

canadia

www.foxnews.com

4-year-old mistakenly given adult COVID-19 vaccine instead of flu shot

The error comes as children under 12 remain ineligible for the vaccine, though Pfizer-BioNTech has submitted clinical trial data from a COVID-19 vaccine study among kids ages 5-11 to the FDA
www.foxnews.com www.foxnews.com

maryland

www.wdrb.com

Louisville boys mistakenly get COVID-19 vaccine instead of flu shot

A few hours later, Christiana Hobbs got the call she'll never forget.
www.wdrb.com www.wdrb.com

kentucky

that's about all from page 1 results of a "covid vaccine instead of flu shot" web search
 
www.ismp.org

ISMP Guidance and Tools

www.ismp.org www.ismp.org

A 23-year-old patient received the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine instead of the flu vaccine. Afterwards, the patient was asked when she had received the first two COVID-19 vaccines, and the error was recognized. While the vaccine provider disclosed the error and apologized to the patient, the patient’s request to get a flu vaccine was crossed out and replaced with “COVID (3rd)” in the documentation provided to the patient.

A 17-year-old visited a community pharmacy for a flu vaccine and was given a COVID-19 vaccine in error. The patient was called that evening and the error was disclosed; however, the patient’s parents were upset because they were opposed to the COVID-19 vaccine.

A 26-year-old made an appointment at a local pharmacy for the flu vaccine. Upon arrival, the patient was given a screening form, consent form, and a Vaccine Information Statement (VIS) for the flu vaccine. However, a COVID-19 vaccine was administered in error. The error was immediately discovered, and the patient was given the flu vaccine. However, the pharmacy did not provide the patient with a record of the third COVID-19 vaccine.

A mother, son (10 years old), and daughter (6 years old) received the Moderna COVID-19 vaccine instead of the flu vaccine. When the mother experienced symptoms similar to those she experienced after receiving the Moderna COVID-19 vaccines, she called the pharmacist. After watching a video of the vaccination clinic, the pharmacist called the mother to report that she had received the Moderna COVID-19 vaccine in error, but her children had received the flu vaccine. After her daughter developed a local reaction at the vaccination site, the mother called the pharmacist and asked him to watch the video again. A few days later, the pharmacist called the mother to say that both of her children had also received the COVID-19 vaccine instead of the flu vaccine.

A vaccinated 70-year-old patient received the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine instead of the flu vaccine. He completed a consent form for the flu vaccine, but was told after administration that he now had his “COVID-19 booster.” He was then also given the flu vaccine and asked to provide consent for the COVID-19 vaccine he had received in error.

A 4-year-old child received the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine instead of the flu vaccine. The Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine is not approved for EUA in a 4-year-old child. While the FDA is currently reviewing data submitted by Pfizer-BioNTech from a COVID-19 vaccine study in children 5-11, the dose is much smaller than that used for patients 12 years and older. Fortunately, the child suffered no ill effects from the vaccine.

A 22-year-old patient was scheduled to receive his first COVID-19 vaccine dose. The vaccinator assumed the patient was there to receive the flu vaccine and administered that instead. About 20 minutes after the patient left the pharmacy, he received a call informing him about the error. It is unclear if the patient returned to the pharmacy to receive the COVID-19 vaccine.

A 21-year-old patient was scheduled to receive a COVID-19 vaccine but was given the flu vaccine instead. Before the error was recognized, the patient had been given a COVID-19 vaccination card. The patient later noticed that the forms she had received from the pharmacy suggested that she had received the flu vaccine. She returned to the pharmacy, where the error was confirmed. The patient received her COVID-19 vaccine but no apology for the error.

A patient, who happened to be a pharmacist, scheduled an appointment at a local pharmacy to receive the flu vaccine, and his wife scheduled an appointment at the same time to receive both the flu vaccine and the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 booster. Because there was a high-volume of patients receiving the COVID-19 booster, the pharmacist asked the vaccine provider to double check that he was only getting the flu vaccine (he had previously received a series of two Moderna COVID-19 vaccines, for which a booster has not yet been approved for EUA). After the vaccine provider confirmed that he was administering the flu vaccine, he grabbed the wrong syringe and gave the patient the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine booster in error.
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"mixup".
"error".

Lies.

If it is true that it happened on accident, multiple times in one year, then show me all the accidental error injections that have taken place in years past. This is the litmus test. If the run rate of error injections is 0 per year every year from 2010-2020, then all of a sudden you can't claim it's a mistake to give people the shit you've been wanting to force them to take anyway.
 
Yota Up said:
"mixup".
"error".

Lies.

If it is true that it happened on accident, multiple times in one year, then show me all the accidental error injections that have taken place in years past. This is the litmus test. If the run rate of error injections is 0 per year every year from 2010-2020, then all of a sudden you can't claim it's a mistake to give people the shit you've been wanting to force them to take anyway.
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Nationally we had 2500 flu cases in 2020.

Every year before that, has been around 500k flu cases.



You're asking for data in a time where data is bullshit. :flipoff2:
 
Filthy McChevy said:
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I'll Repost myself
 
Ummduh said:
I've literally begged to be allowed to wear one during a certain job we run and was flag out told I'll be fired if I bring one in to wear.
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Same, have to be certified and only approved company supplied mask.
I let them know the hypocrisy of all that.
 
Yota Up said:
"mixup".
"error".

Lies.

If it is true that it happened on accident, multiple times in one year, then show me all the accidental error injections that have taken place in years past. This is the litmus test. If the run rate of error injections is 0 per year every year from 2010-2020, then all of a sudden you can't claim it's a mistake to give people the shit you've been wanting to force them to take anyway.
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As a nurse or person qualified to give vaccines and other shots/meds you go by the 5 rights

The right person
the right medication
the right dose
the right route
the right time

This is a check they are supposed to do every time a med is administered. Some meds even require a 2nd person double check. Med errors happen, but I can tell you it is typically only with meds that are close in spelling or the dose amount. I have been an RN for almost 10yrs and I have passed the wrong dose twice being in a hurry when I was a new nurse. Thankfully neither had a bad outcome, but I think about both incidents pretty much every time I pass meds now to remind because I dont want to feel the way I did then waiting to see if the patient was going to have a negative reaction and the call I was gonna have to make to the MD
 
45acp said:
Nationally we had 2500 flu cases in 2020.

Every year before that, has been around 500k flu cases.
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Well.....yeah. Flu took a year or two off. Worked on his tan while cousin Covid took the reins for a while.

But, now they're back together in Flurona!
 
I made it 2 years without getting Covid, but it finally found me. I'm unvaccinated as well. I was on a ski trip to Big Sky, Montana and 100% knew I would get it from this trip.

Friday I felt a little sickly like I was about to get a cold. Saturday was fucking awful like the flu and at-home covid test confirmed suspicions. My body felt like I was in a car wreck and beat to shit. Sunday was a lot better and today, Monday, I'm probably 75% back to normal.

I've taken 1 ivermectin per day since getting symptoms, plus Tylenol, C, D and benadryl a few times a day as needed. I've lost most of my taste and smell but I never got a fever.

:beer:
 
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Had my annual bloodwork done Friday. I asked to go ahead and throw in Covid antibody test...
I'm negative on all three "tests" so I guess I have never had it, even though I thought I just did the last week of December.
 
CarterKraft said:
Had my annual bloodwork done Friday. I asked to go ahead and throw in Covid antibody test...
I'm negative on all three "tests" so I guess I have never had it, even though I thought I just did the last week of December.
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Wrong.

Antibodies wane over time, with everything.
Did you get a Tcell test? If not, then you don't know.
 
Been a nurse for four years and worked the COVID unit the whole time since it started. I'm unvaccinated and just got sent home with symptoms and a positive test today. Symptoms started about 3 hours into my shift. So far just the usual flu aches, chills, diarrhea and feeling cruddy. Will update if I die.
 
YOOPER111 said:
Been a nurse for four years and worked the COVID unit the whole time since it started. I'm unvaccinated and just got sent home with symptoms and a positive test today. Symptoms started about 3 hours into my shift. So far just the usual flu aches, chills, diarrhea and feeling cruddy. Will update if I die.
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Exemption or just aa desperate state that will hire the unclean?
 
My wife got symptoms and tested positive 2 days after I did. She's vaxxed due to being a nurse and not wanting to get fired. Her symptoms are worse than mine, plus a fever, and are lasting longer. She's still not well yet and is in bed right now. Go figure :jester:
 
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