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Vaccination mandates on the horizon.

Our company was gathering data on vax vs non vax last week just to meet compliance. Since the ruling its all been nixed. Fuck the feds.
 
It may have already been said but in spite of the SCOTUS rulings, each state and company can override the decision.

Most will make it standing policy in an attempt to avoid the lawsuits.
The ruling has no teeth in the grand scale.
 
VEX said:
It may have already been said but in spite of the SCOTUS rulings, each state and company can override the decision.

Most will make it standing policy in an attempt to avoid the lawsuits.
The ruling has no teeth in the grand scale.
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I think it’s the opposite, without the mandate they lose any legal protections it gave them. They are going to be liable for any injuries the vaccine causes.
 
Void_of_Light said:
I think it’s the opposite, without the mandate they lose any legal protections it gave them. They are going to be liable for any injuries the vaccine causes.
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They never had legal protections.
They can still enforce it but now they don’t have the “government mandate” to blame.

You are still (as always) bound to company policy.
 
VEX said:
They never had legal protections.
They can still enforce it but now they don’t have the “government mandate” to blame.

You are still (as always) bound to company policy.
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The Government can say it’s ok to smoke pot at work, but if work says ‘no, it’s against policy’ then that’s a wrap. You must abide by company policy regardless.
If you want to work there.

The ruling is almost redundant.
Company policy trumps Gov, and State trumps Gov. and Company policy trumps both within the confines of the law.
 
VEX said:
The Government can say it’s ok to smoke pot at work, but if work says ‘no, it’s against policy’ then that’s a wrap. You must abide by company policy regardless.
If you want to work there.

The ruling is almost redundant.
Company policy trumps Gov, and State trumps Gov. and Company policy trumps both within the confines of the law.
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If they required you to smoke pot at work, and the pot gave you myocarditis, they would be liable and your injury would definitely fall under workman's comp.
 
45acp said:
If they required you to smoke pot at work, and the pot gave you myocarditis, they would be liable and your injury would definitely fall under workman's comp.
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45acp said:
I didn’t say the company would require you to smoke pot. I said that IF the Government said it was ok to smoke pot at work, and the Company said ‘no’, then Company policy trumps that ruling
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45acp said:
If they required you to smoke pot at work, and the pot gave you myocarditis, they would be liable and your injury would definitely fall under workman's comp.
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No company is going to require you to smoke pot at work And that’s not what I said.
If Company policy is that you will not smoke pot at work then you won’t smoke pot at work regardless of the Government position.

Company policy (within the law) trumps mandates or Government.
 
VEX said:
No company is going to require you to smoke pot at work And that’s not what I said.
If Company policy is that you will not smoke pot at work then you won’t smoke pot at work regardless of the Government position.

Company policy (within the law) trumps mandates or Government.
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The point 45 was making -------------- >

Your head ----------- >

:flipoff2:
 
Animalmother said:
Interesting to that chart also shows pneumonia and the flu
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I called this out since the “lock down to flatten the curve” started in early 2020. 😡

Have you ever wonder why the RONA “cured” influenza? I truly think they just counted it as a covid.

Early into the plannedemic, cdc used to have 2 datas; P&I (pneumonia and influenza) and PIC (pneumonia, influenza and covid). Comparing to both’s mortality rates was easy to recognize that deaths caused exclusively by covid is negligible!
P&I is no longer available the last time I searched! It’s all 3. Can’t look up data for just one of them. They all 3 are lumped together.

The best way I can explain on what I’ve read and people I talked to about the RONA; the beer flu essentially is just a “gatekeeper” to influenza or pneumonia if you’re to get really sick or dying. Violently ill or dying by just the covid and nothing else is rare or nonexistence.
 
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TrailTamer said:
I called this out since the “lock down to flatten the curve” started in early 2020. 😡

Have you ever wonder why the RONA “cured” influenza? I truly think they just counted it as a covid.

Early into the plannedemic, cdc used to have 2 datas; P&I (pneumonia and influenza) and PIC (pneumonia, influenza and covid). Comparing to both’s mortality rates was easy to recognize that deaths caused exclusively by covid is negligible!
P&I is no longer available the last time I searched! It’s all 3. Can’t look up data for just one of them. They all 3 are lumped together.

The best way I can explain on what I’ve read and people I talked to about the RONA; the beer flu essentially is just a “gatekeeper” to influenza or pneumonia if you’re to get really sick or dying. Violently ill or dying by just the covid and nothing else is rare or nonexistence.
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AIDs is like that isn't it? AIDs doesn't kill you, it's usually pneumonia or something like that that kills you because of the AIDs.

Or you can be like my grandma who just passed away due to a fall where she hit her head and had massive brain bleeding and they listed COVID pneumonia as a secondary cause of death despite her only testing positive:mad3:. She's getting sent to an independent pathologist to fix that shit.
 
MuntCuffin said:
Da fuq?
"Yeah, we'll just change these numbers a bit and pull figures from our ass so our narrative is more believable"
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are you really surprised, or are you just pretending to be surprised?

how often has it been the good guys doing the redefining of words
 
From The Babylon Bee
babylonbee.com

Historians Discover Document From 1776 That Removes All Mandates And Restrictions

PHILADELPHIA - Researchers with Independence National Historic Park have located an ancient document they say renders all national mandates and restrictions void. The document, dating to 1776, is being referred to as ‘The Declaration of Independence’ by park historians who allege it details the...
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Historians Discover Document From 1776 That Removes All Mandates And Restrictions

January 17th, 2022 - BabylonBee.com
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PHILADELPHIA—Researchers with Independence National Historic Park have located an ancient document they say renders all national mandates and restrictions void. The document, dating to 1776, is being referred to as ‘The Declaration of Independence’ by park historians who allege it details the existence of unalienable rights and that governments derive their power from the consent of the governed. Sources indicate the document was found in the park archives, allegedly buried under a stack of Benjamin Franklin’s raunchy poems.
“We don’t usually go near those,” said historian Clay Garrett regarding Franklin’s forbidden writings. “I was definitely not reading them when I found the crumpled-up parchment that later turned out to be our nation’s Declaration of Independence."
Garrett continued, “The fascinating thing about this document is that it says King George III was a tyrant who did a bunch of things President Biden is doing right now. So I’m not really sure what to think.”
“Also, they were both kind of crazy. We’re looking into a latent Corn Pop connection as well,” he added.
In response to the find, the Supreme Court has granted a stay on all current vaccine and mask mandates, as well as every other stupid mandate on the books.
White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki said of the document, “The president is just working to tear down our nation’s values and unite us all under a one-world government to protect us from a virus with a high probability of survival. That doesn’t make him a tyrant. He’s not even British.”
At publishing time, mandates and restrictions were reinstated after it was revealed the author of the declaration was local racist Thomas Jefferson.
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[486] said:
are you really surprised, or are you just pretending to be surprised?

how often has it been the good guys doing the redefining of words
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Just more surprised about how it just happens and no one asks any questions of these people.

Maybe not surprised, since the media is what it is, a propaganda arm.

I don't know. Guess I'm just stuck in a glass case of emotion. :flipoff2:
 
Bogus One said:
I'm guessing Carhartt is gonna lose a lot of customers if they start firing employees over this. True Carhartt people are, ya know..........
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Yeah, people that buy and sell carhart stuff aren't going to stand by their decision. There is absolutely zero benefit for them sticking with a mandate. Piss off the employees, piss off the distributors, piss off the customers. Not to mention that when, not if the lawsuits happen. they wont have any legal leg to stand on. They will get roasted in court.
 
So, from an obtuse, unknowing angle, does the lack of mandate now make the employers responsible when or if long-term impacts (or even immediate or short-term reactions) from these corporate dictated requirements?
 
RedX said:
So, from an obtuse, unknowing angle, does the lack of mandate now make the employers responsible when or if long-term impacts (or even immediate or short-term reactions) from these corporate dictated requirements?
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:idea::stirthepot: This will turn into a legal shitshow, guarenteed
 
RedX said:
So, from an obtuse, unknowing angle, does the lack of mandate now make the employers responsible when or if long-term impacts (or even immediate or short-term reactions) from these corporate dictated requirements?
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excellent question.

My company very quietly rolled back the mandate over the weekend... where they were sending very proactive emails in the past, this was just a link on the intrawebs.

My wife's company rolled out mandates last week. She has 6 weeks for accommodation or different (internal?) job.
 
RedX said:
So, from an obtuse, unknowing angle, does the lack of mandate now make the employers responsible when or if long-term impacts (or even immediate or short-term reactions) from these corporate dictated requirements?
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Any company that pushed it before the supreme court case might have some protection by saying they only did it because the govt forced them to. Anybody pushing it after that is going to be solely responsible for any and all injuries their employees suffer.
 
jimbo92 said:
I was aggravated by the mandates previously. Now I'm furious. Wife being in healthcare is going to be mandated to keep getting boosters unless something wild happens.

Thus far Omicron has been a big nothing burger aside from a cold for myself and many of my friends. Hell I went camping and rode my mountain bike.
However, my wife and many of her friends have had a ROUGH time with it. Wife popped positive for the 2nd time after 11 days. Fever on days 9 and 10. Hospital says (before the 2nd test) "you're out of your 5 day quarantine its not covid, go to work", so she has been working and seeing patients sick as a dog.

I'm not vaxed, 90 percent of my buddies arent, and we have pretty much all had a very minor time with it. She is vaxed and has had an awful time with it. Her friends who are vaxed are also having a rough go. Much harder than the first time we had it in 2020 with no vax. And this is supposed to be a "weaker variant". How in the hell can they FORCE a shot that from a casual observation made my wife SICKER than she was previously with no shot? I've already told her no pressure from me, we will find her another job outside of healthcare. She does NOT want the booster.
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The shot is not making her sicker. It’s the unvaccinated. Try and keep up with the narrative. :flipoff2:
 
Void_of_Light said:
Any company that pushed it before the supreme court case might have some protection by saying they only did it because the govt forced them to. Anybody pushing it after that is going to be solely responsible for any and all injuries their employees suffer.
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But it is all under Emergency order, I bet you can't sue for shit about it, they won't even hear the case.
 
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