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Trump indicated for election interference

Here's the test, and answer honestly. If it was a white cop that shot a black BLM/abortion protestor in the capital, would be free to walk? Answer that honestly

They would've 100% charged him and vilified him and they would've been wrong. And I say that as someone who has more use for dog shit on the bottom of my shoe than a cop.
 
Honestly, I do think you're unintentionally partially right. The only way to fix this mess might be to fence the wingers off and let them fight it out to the death, then shoot the winners. :laughing:

But seriously, the folks on the other fence think this same exact way about you and yours. The fucked up thing is you're both right about each other.

If you think I'm only pointing fingers at Trump you haven't been paying attention.

The wingers….haha. Like your ass doesnt solidly fall on the political spectrum just like everyone else, including the wingers.

I love how you guys always talk about these issues like an outsider and that your somehow magically immune to your own criticisms.


Not about Trump.

Its about equal standards and application of law.

Take Jan 6 for example. No one in their right mind can make a sincere argument that Jan 6 was a riot when the left and media already set the standard.

Remember….”Since when do protests have to be peaceful?” “Mostly peaceful protest” “If you see them out, push up on them and make them feel unwelcome”

We saw real calls to action and real calls to violence and calls to riot. Not the made up bullshit lefties try to spin about Jan 6 being a deadly insurrection and Trump firing up the crowd.

Only people making that argument are lefties and apparently the non binary they/them political experts.
 
The wingers….haha. Like your ass doesnt solidly fall on the political spectrum just like everyone else, including the wingers.

I love how you guys always talk about these issues like an outsider and that your somehow magically immune to your own criticisms.


Not about Trump.

Its about equal standards and application of law.

Take Jan 6 for example. No one in their right mind can make a sincere argument that Jan 6 was a riot when the left and media already set the standard.

Remember….”Since when do protests have to be peaceful?” “Mostly peaceful protest” “If you see them out, push up on them and make them feel unwelcome”

We saw real calls to action and real calls to violence and calls to riot. Not the made up bullshit lefties try to spin about Jan 6 being a deadly insurrection and Trump firing up the crowd.

Only people making that argument are lefties and apparently the non binary they/them political experts.

Yeah, in these hyper-partisan conversations I'm an outsider. The BLM riots were riots. They weren't "mostly peaceful protests". January 6th wasn't an "insurrection". Both of these statements can be true.
 
You have to admit, Jan. 6th was a brilliant psy-op. Distract from the stolen election by staging a fake "insurrection", paint conservatives and Trump supporters as terrorists, then blame it all on the GOP front-runner leading up to 2024 and indict him. These are the lengths they have to go to when they can't run on policy or results. And the media will continue covering for it all.

So much this. I very distinctly remember watching live feeds from inside the capitol on this day. Paul Gosar objected to AZ certifying their election results with Ted Cruz seconding the motion. This was met with rounds of applause.

Not 5 minutes later people "breached" the capitol and everyone went into lockdown. Around an hour later precedings continued starting off with voting on moving forward with Paul Gosar's objection and the vote was a couple hundred against and like 6 for, almost like the breach just gave everyone a convenient excuse to vote against any objection of certifying the results.

Anyone who played connect the dots as a kid could see the political theater as it played out. I personally think both sides are full of actors and the play is simply to amuse idiots like us but I sure hope I'm being just a bit too cynical.
 
Look at cnn.com front page right now.

Trumps name appears 14 times.

Biden 6 times and most of that is Hunter.

What does that tell us?
 
They are constantly attacking him and have been since he decided to run in 2016. Multiple impeachments, multiple false lawsuits, multiple charges and they keep adding on. The only reason to keep adding on like they are is because they think the other charges they have again Trump wont convict. Without a conviction of a charge that would prevent him from legally running he is the RNC Nominee and they know his base will follow him.

Why are they so scared of that?
 
They are constantly attacking him and have been since he decided to run in 2016. Multiple impeachments, multiple false lawsuits, multiple charges and they keep adding on. The only reason to keep adding on like they are is because they think the other charges they have again Trump wont convict. Without a conviction of a charge that would prevent him from legally running he is the RNC Nominee and they know his base will follow him.

Why are they so scared of that?

Because if Trump manages to get voted back in I predict scorched earth coming to DC. Nobody, and I mean nobody from either side wants this because it's going to expose and take down lots of big names on both sides of the isle. Same reason they will never ever release an Epstein client list.......
 
She was shot in the back. The cops on the other side of the door could have pepper sprayed her and neutralized the “threat”.

On the other hand, when you make the decision to ignore an armed cop that will err on the side of going home safe -you gotta own your decision.
 
At this point the demokunts are just throwing a dart and picking the indictment of the day that it lands on

The fact they spend 100% of their time and energy fighting an ex president shows just how sad, pathetic and scared they are
 
At this point the demokunts are just throwing a dart and picking the indictment of the day that it lands on

The fact they spend 100% of their time and energy fighting an ex president shows just how sad, pathetic and scared they are

This is all about running cover for the stolen election in 2024. Plain and simple. No other real reason, other than most of them are political hack prosecutors who have TDS. But the string pullers want there to be a huge cloud over Trump so the media and pundits can right volumes for years about why Biden won reelection being the least popular president in history and despite the economy being terrible come this time next year
 
You have to admit, Jan. 6th was a brilliant psy-op. Distract from the stolen election by staging a fake "insurrection", paint conservatives and Trump supporters as terrorists, then blame it all on the GOP front-runner leading up to 2024 and indict him. These are the lengths they have to go to when they can't run on policy or results. And the media will continue covering for it all.
I just hope the people who got us here don't die of natural causes before the problems they created are fixed.
 
This is all about running cover for the stolen election in 2024. Plain and simple. No other real reason, other than most of them are political hack prosecutors who have TDS. But the string pullers want there to be a huge cloud over Trump so the media and pundits can right volumes for years about why Biden won reelection being the least popular president in history and despite the economy being terrible come this time next year

Yup they know they can't convince the populace the pants-shitter won reelection because of abortion.
 
... trying to force their way through a barricaded door guarded by armed men with members of Congress behind them? If she'd died because a cop kneeled on her neck for 10 minutes while she was presenting no further threat I'd fully agree with you.

Did you see the video? Do you think deadly force was justified?

The cops standing behind her were lucky they did not get hit.

The shooter stepped out from cover and executed the woman.
 
I'm not. But speaking specifically about the chick that got shot here, she was crawling through the broken window of a barricaded door in the Capitol building guarded by armed men asking her to stop. What would you honestly expect the outcome of that to be? It's practically suicide by cop.
I would expect the use of non-lethal force prior to an execution. Maybe walk up to her and grab her wrist and make her submit. Or tase her. Or beanbag her. Or bitch slap her. Or knock her the fuck out.
 
This is the type of division I'm not sure the nation will survive. To Trump supporters, anyone who doesn't make every excuse for him and practically worship him is a "libtard". To the anti-Trumpers, anyone who doesn't condemn Trump as basically being the greatest threat humanity has seen since Hitler is a "Trumper". To these two groups of idiots, there's no gray area. You're all in or all out. It's a really dumb way to view the world.

Because eventually, it boils down to no grey area, a 1 or a 0.

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After the election, you have retroactively 100% supported whoever you voted for.
 
I would expect the use of non-lethal force prior to an execution. Maybe walk up to her and grab her wrist and make her submit. Or tase her. Or beanbag her. Or bitch slap her. Or knock her the fuck out.
This.

People get pissy when some Tuesday morning B-team rookie cop in fucking Trenton smokes a knife armed tweaker without trying the taser first.

You'd think a bunch of supposedly highly trained and qualified capitol police would at least try the scalpel before going for the sledge.
 
Because eventually, it boils down to no grey area, a 1 or a 0.

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After the election, you have retroactively 100% supported whoever you voted for.

That's what we've all been brainwashed to believe. Show me in the Constitution where we are a "two party system".
 
At this point the demokunts are just throwing a dart and picking the indictment of the day that it lands on

The fact they spend 100% of their time and energy fighting an ex president shows just how sad, pathetic and scared they are
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I don't buy into this idea that they are doing this to bolster Trump's campaign. They don't want him to run, they want him to get the Republican nomination and then argue he's not eligible to run so the GOP is forced to change candidates late in the race. They want to bypass the elective process within the GOP so the party can pick someone they know won't win like Pence.

At a minimum they're going to try to force Trump to have to appeal to the Supreme Court which takes time he won't have. This is far more about tying Trump up in the legal system than it is about giving someone easy for Biden to run against. There's too much exposure and scrutiny to rig the vote again and after 4 years of Biden running the country into the ground, I doubt a race between Biden and Trump is anywhere near as close as it was before.
 
That's what we've all been brainwashed to believe. Show me in the Constitution where we are a "two party system".
It's just de facto. Look at Canada and the UK if you want to see where a system with more parties goes.

Our two parties are a symptom of a much larger issue in that the Federal government has amassed power far beyond it's intended scope.
 
That's what we've all been brainwashed to believe. Show me in the Constitution where we are a "two party system".
Red herring- I didn't say that was some ideal structure. Show me an election that was otherwise. They're vanishingly rare.

Believe me, I've wasted decades of votes on third parties. Feel free to vote Vivek, or RFK, or whatever wingnut the LP coughs up...it will still be Trump Vs ThePotatoe. The Right as a whole, vs the Left as a whole. You're on one side of that center line, or the other. How far out doesn't matter, when there are only two circles to fill in.
 
Red herring- I didn't say that was some ideal structure. Show me an election that was otherwise. They're vanishingly rare.

Believe me, I've wasted decades of votes on third parties. Feel free to vote Vivek, or RFK, or whatever wingnut the LP coughs up...it will still be Trump Vs ThePotatoe. The Right as a whole, vs the Left as a whole. You're on one side of that center line, or the other. How far out doesn't matter, when there are only two circles to fill in.

the Libertarian Party had a chance to really do something in 2016 and screwed Austin Peterson out of the nomination like teh Dems screwed Bernie Sanders.

what a complete joke and the same goes for anyone who voted for Gary Johnson and Bill "Booger" Weld. nothing but clowns.
 
the Libertarian Party had a chance to really do something in 2016 and screwed Austin Peterson out of the nomination like teh Dems screwed Bernie Sanders.

what a complete joke and the same goes for anyone who voted for Gary Johnson and Bill "Booger" Weld. nothing but clowns.
Well, at least they got run out on a rail by the Mises Caucus. We'll see if fewer pronouns = a saner party.

But it'll still be cheeto/potato soup.
 
the Libertarian Party had a chance to really do something in 2016 and screwed Austin Peterson out of the nomination like teh Dems screwed Bernie Sanders.

what a complete joke and the same goes for anyone who voted for Gary Johnson and Bill "Booger" Weld. nothing but clowns.
The LP is a fucking joke anyway. Aspirations way outside of reality and too much focus on stupid ass issues no one else cares about like raw milk. Lost me years ago when they went full in on open borders as well. I get it in principle, but in reality it doesn't work.
 
The LP is a fucking joke anyway. Aspirations way outside of reality and too much focus on stupid ass issues no one else cares about like raw milk. Lost me years ago when they went full in on open borders as well. I get it in principle, but in reality it doesn't work.

guess i havent kept up with the open borders deal.


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