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Tourist submarine exploring Titanic wreckage disappears in Atlantic Ocean

east_beast said:
Well, considering it looks almost certain to turn into a 12,000 foot deep underwater tomb for five people I'd say that's pretty much checkmate for the other side of the story. :laughing:
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You're not thinking the submersible in that story is the one now lost, are you?
 
news conference recap.

they're expending a shit ton of resources.
they heard some noises
they don't know what the noises were but they're searching the area the noises came from.
more stuff is on it's way.
 
Upon further reading it seems the Alvin was brought up sometime in the 1970's and dove on the deepwater horizon in 2014.


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DSV Alvin - Wikipedia

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Void_of_Light said:
Its support ship Atlantis was off the coast of Norway 14 hours ago according to marine tracker.

that's 3000 miles away, might be able to make it in time to recover the bodies.
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Rooney77 said:
I bet they are out of oxygen already. 5 panicked folks trapped in a tube 12k ft down. There's gonna be some stressed breathing, arguing and certainly not oxygen conservation.
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How does hypothermia affects the breathing? I think they may have frozen to death a few days ago.

(Also, not that it matters, I thought I read they were using rebreather technology, I'm not sure how that affects anything)

Chances of anyone being alive is slim.

This is likely a mission to recover bodies if the thing didn't rupture, which is a possibility as well.
 
What will we find

So here’s the poll

1. Eaten by Kraken

2. Hypothermia

3. Floated to just under the surface where they were baked by the sun

4. Vessel ruptured

5. Ran out of O2

6. Ran out of water and die of dehydration

7. Never recovered / never know

(And I do feel very sorry for these people, the idea of what they may be going through RIGHT THIS VERY MOMENT is terrible)
 
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grumpy356 said:
(And I do feel very sorry for these people, the idea of what they may be going through RIGHT THIS VERY MOMENT is terrible)
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I know it's the least of their worries, but I keep thinking about all the pee and poop.
 
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grumpy356 said:
How does hypothermia affects the breathing? I think they may have frozen to death a few days ago.

(Also, not that it matters, I thought I read they were using rebreather technology, I'm not sure how that affects anything)

Chances of anyone being alive is slim.

This is likely a mission to recover bodies if the thing didn't rupture, which is a possibility as well.
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I had read that there were electric scrubbers on board, and some chemical strip co2 absorbers or something like that.
 
CJF said:
You're not thinking the submersible in that story is the one now lost, are you?
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I'm thinking that there's two sides to every story and the guy who said this shit is a disaster wisting to happen sure looks to have been proven correct.
 
east_beast said:
I'm thinking that there's two sides to every story and the guy who said this shit is a disaster wisting to happen sure looks to have been proven correct.
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it is a pretty convincing argument when the catastrophe you said was going to happen, happens.
can we get that guy to QC the climate change shit next? Guys batting pretty well right now.
 
east_beast said:
I'm thinking that there's two sides to every story and the guy who said this shit is a disaster wisting to happen sure looks to have been proven correct.
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On the tourist side, I agree.

Vescovo's story (the one in the article) is pretty amazing. Kind of an underwater version of spaceX.
 
Ok so they all dead. Sealed in a chamber. With no light, no oxygen, no water, no animals etc.
What kind of condition would one expect the corpses to be in in 10 years when the chamber is found? :confused:
 
grumpy356 said:
What will we find

So here’s the poll

1. Eaten by Kraken

2. Hypothermia

3. Floated to just under the surface where they were baked by the sun

4. Vessel ruptured

5. Ran out of O2

6. Ran out of water and die of dehydration

7. Never recovered / never know

(And I do feel very sorry for these people, the idea of what they may be going through RIGHT THIS VERY MOMENT is terrible)
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Sabatoge. Somebody on that thing had to die, the rest were collateral damage.

At least, that's what my coworker that's a big conspiracy theorist thinks happened, and happened with the Titanic as well.

www.titanicswitch.com

The Titanic 'Switch' Theory: Exposed - The J.P. Morgan Federal Reserve Theory

Debunks the Titanic 'switch' theory with extensive forensic evidence and claims analysis.
www.titanicswitch.com

My theory? Flip a coin. Nothing really surprises me anymore.
 
87manche said:


starts at 48 minutes in.
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Every single news conference of his type begins with an endless droning of heroes who we are and here’s how sad we are and here’s how hard we are working. No one needs to hear that and if they do put it at the end like in a scientific paper.

And after waiting through all that the news is we still don’t know anything.

Friggin BS just let them do their jobs and when they have something to report it can be done in two or three simple paragraphs.
 
PAE said:
You seem to be correct alright.

Alvin, aboard the Navy tender ship Lulu, was lost as it was being transported on 16 October 1968.
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Alvin exists and was extensively refitted; these upgrades were completed in 2021.
 
Bacho said:
There are of course, two sides to every story.


This is an interesting read. There is a documentary on Netflix about its dives.

www.wired.co.uk

Inside the daring mission to reach the bottom of all Earth’s oceans

Victor Vescovo wanted to be the first person to reach the deepest points of all five oceans – but first he had to build a submarine that was up to it
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The last hurdle was testing at depth. To do this, the team travelled to the Krylov State Research Centre in St Petersburg, Russia – the only facility in the world capable of replicating full oceanic pressure – in early 2018. The pressure hull was placed in the facility’s DK-1000 hydraulic pressure test tank, where it was exposed to pressure in the region of 60,000 tonnes – 1.2 times the pressure at the maximum possible diving depth of the Mariana Trench. “During testing, the pressure hull was filled with water, with a pipe allowing water to come out as they increased the pressure,” explains Ramsay. “They do this because if the sub hull imploded during testing, the amount of energy released would be enough to destroy the entire facility.”
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Rooney77 said:
I bet they are out of oxygen already. 5 panicked folks trapped in a tube 12k ft down. There's gonna be some stressed breathing, arguing and certainly not oxygen conservation.
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Many of us here were originally speculating that they were carrying oxygen in tanks. I believe that some information was recently posted that they have CO2 scrubbers. The soda lime in them will be exhausted at the cut off time that has been publicized.

Now if electrical power was knocked out when they first went radio silent, then the fans in the scrubbers went out. And in that case maybe they are already DRT.
 
plym49.2 said:
Many of us here were originally speculating that they were carrying oxygen in tanks. I believe that some information was recently posted that they have CO2 scrubbers. The soda lime in them will be exhausted at the cut off time that has been publicized.

Now if electrical power was knocked out when they first went radio silent, then the fans in the scrubbers went out. And in that case maybe they are already DRT.
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If they are using rebreather tech, it requires power to monitor levels and adjust gasses. They may be dead with 95 hours worth of O2 in the tanks.
 
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grumpy356 said:
What will we find

So here’s the poll

1. Eaten by Kraken

2. Hypothermia

3. Floated to just under the surface where they were baked by the sun

4. Vessel ruptured

5. Ran out of O2

6. Ran out of water and die of dehydration

7. Never recovered / never know

(And I do feel very sorry for these people, the idea of what they may be going through RIGHT THIS VERY MOMENT is terrible)
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2. Hypothermia - I doubt it. It would've probably already gotten them by now if they weren't properly dressed. Five people in that little sub are gonna create quite a bit of heat.

3. Floated to just under the surface - I doubt it. If the banging is them which authorities have pretty much confirmed then they didn't get baked in the sun. I would also think the aircraft overhead would've likely spotted them if they were just under the surface (then again, 100 feet deep is relatively speaking "just under the surface" in 12,000 feet of water). Suspended somewhere well above the ocean floor is possible but I would assume they would've drifted a pretty far distance by now and they've said the banging is "near" the Titanic for whatever that means. Either way, my bet is that they're on the bottom. They lost touch with the vessel on it's descent. If it was disabled there would be nothing to halt that descent.

4. Vessel ruptured - violent implosion was my initial bet but that's out if that banging sound is them banging on the hull.

5. Ran out of O2 - it hasn't happened yet if they're still banging but that's my current bet on how this goes.

6. Dehydration - lack of O2 will get them well before this.

7. Never recovered - that was my initial bet but if my current hunch is correct that they're on the seafloor near the dive site/Titanic then they'll probably locate it eventually.
 
Sceep said:
Ok so they all dead. Sealed in a chamber. With no light, no oxygen, no water, no animals etc.
What kind of condition would one expect the corpses to be in in 10 years when the chamber is found? :confused:
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There were some interesting write ups on what happens to you in space, starting with space suit removed.
What happens to your blood, etc. Ultimately you freeze and continue to drift forever or until you crash into a asteroid or approach a sun.
I know you're asking about water here but it's pretty trippy to consider the space death as well.
 
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