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Newsom signs law requiring gender neutral bathrooms in all K-12 public schools.

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Sandy Johnson said:
I respectfully disagree. It is 100% a law problem. In California, the only way to evict a renter is to file a lawsuit against them, and then wait for the court to order law enforcement to carry out the eviction. An overloaded court adds to the problem, but it's not the root cause.

The thing is, this isn't some unheard of issue the dude is having. If you're a landlord in California, you have to know this is a risk you're assuming every time you rent out a property. This guy is upset, but really it's known in the state that evictions take a long ass time. Shit should take 30 days tops, but around here, it don't.
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And we wonder why there's a homeless problem.....shakes head.

It'd be a shame if the place burnt down and the "owner" collected the insurance and just left.
 
Sandy Johnson said:
Fawk that renter. Fawk the garbage system that lets them continue to occupy that dudes home.

But also, I have questions. If the renter WAS paying rent... wouldn't the homeowner still be living in a van down by the river, just $50k richer? It's not like the police came by one day, threw him out and forced him to rent out his only home to someone against his will. Seems like there's a lot of the story that's not being told by the news or by the property owner.
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In 1991, I bought my first house in Colorado. I got a screaming deal on it because it had a renter in it and the renter was refusing to leave AND the renter had sublet 5 of the 6 bedrooms in the house.

I bought it anyway, and I got a lawyer and I talked to the police chief (small town) they both told me it could take up to 2 years to get the renter out.

I met with the renter and tried to find out what would get him out. He told me he wanted 3 months rent free and he'd leave. I quietly visited with each of the sublet renters and told them my situation without emotion and that by subletting to them, the renter had violated his rental agreement. I told them I held them harmless, that I was sure they had no intention of doing anything wrong. I offered them 250.00 if they would move within 10 days. All were very grateful for the offer and accepted and said that the Renter was odd and creepy and they could use the money to move and would.

All of them were gone in a week. I met again with the renter and he was upset that his source of income had dried up and he threatened a lawsuit against me, but I didn't flinch nor defend my actions, I simply said, "I appreciate your situation, but, I've bought the house and I bought it as my sole residence, we want to live here and we pay for the home, so you can understand our position.'

Finally, he settled for 300.00 (IIRC) and that he'd leave in 7 days. The next day, I also received a court order that I was not to go within 1000 feet of the house unless agreed upon by the renter. My lawyer began the work to fight it, but for a few days, it was real.

At the time, we'd moved to Co for my wife's job, I'd taken a temporary job with a mortgage banker and was doing mortgages (I did my own!) I was working on a mortgage for a small, local moving company and the guy was in the office when I was talking about my situation. The mover guy was a nice guy, he struggled to qualify for what he wanted to buy but was a good dude, just had the usual self employment issues. Anyway, he pipes up, 'hey that guy hired me to move him to Phoenix.' I told him to get the money up front, but I also asked, 'hey can you call me when you head over there to move him?' He agreed. A couple days later he calls and says, we are going to load up.

So I park 1000' away and watch with binoculars. When they finally all pull out (the movers left and 30 mins later the renter leaves, I see a TON of smoke pouring out of the chimney and I race over to the house and find he has a mtn of trash and shit in the middle of the living room and he has wedged about a cord of wood up the chimney! I get the fire out, the whole house is full of thick smoke.

Fortunately, I was doing a mortgage for a carpet cleaner with a lot of credit problems, a bridge loan that was shaky and someone who needed my help. I called him, he came in 20 minutes, used his ozone machine and all was well.

I knew the renter's name and an alias he was using. I waited a few months, put a lien on him and going old school had some friends roust the shit out of him. I recouped 1000.00 that was owed (about 3500 total was owed, but whatever)

and so... crazy stuff happens everywhere....
 
Sandy Johnson said:
I respectfully disagree. It is 100% a law problem. In California, the only way to evict a renter is to file a lawsuit against them, and then wait for the court to order law enforcement to carry out the eviction. An overloaded court adds to the problem, but it's not the root cause.

The thing is, this isn't some unheard of issue the dude is having. If you're a landlord in California, you have to know this is a risk you're assuming every time you rent out a property. This guy is upset, but really it's known in the state that evictions take a long ass time. Shit should take 30 days tops, but around here, it don't.
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But why should it be a risk? I tried looking up the actual California code but all I got was covid how not to pay your rent because the governor said so shit.
Is there a reason that a simple lawsuit with known facts can't be done in less than 30 days?
 
Thumping said:
I can't wait for the debate.....:lmao:
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So are they just going to add this mental illness to every school? How many? Will they convert the boys or girls rooms to the mental illness standard? So many questions...oh, right I DGAF, I don't live there nor do I have any school age kids.

Wallow in your stupidity CA, wallow on.
 
rockota said:
Not at all a gray area. Either the owner owns the home or the government does...


your example can be handled in contract law. Government's only responsibility is to ensure contracts are enforced
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Perhaps you are a bit better versed in the law than I. Handling it via contract law sounds a lot like you can't evict someone until you bring a lawsuit against them, but I probably don't know enough about the process.

Either way, we looked into buying property and renting it as a source of income and it was much too easy to get screwed over by tenants failing to pay their rent just like the guy in the article did.
 
Sandy Johnson said:
Perhaps you are a bit better versed in the law than I. Handling it via contract law sounds a lot like you can't evict someone until you bring a lawsuit against them, but I probably don't know enough about the process.

Either way, we looked into buying property and renting it as a source of income and it was much too easy to get screwed over by tenants failing to pay their rent just like the guy in the article did.
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simple view.

renter has a contract and is meeting obligations, no reason to evict.

landlord has a contract and is meeting obligations, but renter stops paying, evict.

simple.
 
87manche said:
But why should it be a risk? I tried looking up the actual California code but all I got was covid how not to pay your rent because the governor said so shit.
Is there a reason that a simple lawsuit with known facts can't be done in less than 30 days?
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It shouldn't be, and gas shouldn't be $6/gal, and the roads in the state shouldn't be fawked, but here we are.
 
Sandy Johnson said:
I respectfully disagree. It is 100% a law problem. In California, the only way to evict a renter is to file a lawsuit against them, and then wait for the court to order law enforcement to carry out the eviction. An overloaded court adds to the problem, but it's not the root cause.

The thing is, this isn't some unheard of issue the dude is having. If you're a landlord in California, you have to know this is a risk you're assuming every time you rent out a property. This guy is upset, but really it's known in the state that evictions take a long ass time. Shit should take 30 days tops, but around here, it don't.
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How else would you manage this? Should you be able to call the Sherriff to evict them? What if the deadbeat tennant tell the Sherriff that you're full of shit? I think that's why a judge has to be involved. Maybe you don't call it a lawsuit, but you still need to get them in front of a judge somehow.

Someone from outside of CA that's evicted a problem tenant, how did it go?

My dad last evicted a tenant in the early 80s, because they weren't paying rent, said it was a pain in the ass then. Tennant would get to day 3 of the "3-day pay or quit" and a check would show up for rent from some distant relative. Next month rent would be late, serve a new 3 day pay or quit, and the cycle continues.

Seems like the guy in the news story linked earlier fits in the "3-day Notice to Quit" category because of the AirBnB, or "3-day Notice to Pay or Quit" for the back rent, and he decided to wait until 5 months of rent is due before starting this process. He then found out the courts are backlogged.

If someone is paying rent and otherwise in good standing, you need to give them 30 days notice if they've been there under a year, or 60 days if they've been there over a year. That seems reasonable to me.

Types of eviction notices tenants | California Courts | Self Help Guide

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Something would have to have gone very wrong in my life to deal with that shit.
 
Does the renter have cameras? If no: stop by at 3AM, shut off water, gas, & power, place dollar-store padlocks as possible, then meet up with your alibi for a beer :laughing:
 
Provience said:
Those bills are in the owners name, just call and shut them off
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rockota said:
Not always…
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In this case it sounds like they are, and he's still paying them. I don't get why he doesn't just shut everything off, but maybe it has something to do with looking like he's upholding his end of the rental agreement while the court case goes through?
 
Busy day legislating tyranny in CA

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Report: California Looking To Restrict Travel For Classic Cars

The state is looking at instituting “zero-emission zones” soon. The state of California is looking seriously at instituting or allowing local governments to institute zero-emission zones in the near future. In preparation for such a move, the California Air Resources Board (CARB) reportedly is...
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49willys_mogon said:
Busy day legislating tyranny in CA

autos.yahoo.com

Report: California Looking To Restrict Travel For Classic Cars

The state is looking at instituting “zero-emission zones” soon. The state of California is looking seriously at instituting or allowing local governments to institute zero-emission zones in the near future. In preparation for such a move, the California Air Resources Board (CARB) reportedly is...
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That'll be real nice, finally get LA smog cleared out
 
Sandy Johnson said:
In this case it sounds like they are, and he's still paying them. I don't get why he doesn't just shut everything off, but maybe it has something to do with looking like he's upholding his end of the rental agreement while the court case goes through?
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They’ll destroy his place and the state will hold him accountable for making a family love w/o water and electricity, is my guess.
 
Good grief. When my relatives move out of the CA rental, that thing is going on the market before they move out. I hope that keeps squatters away, and me off the evening news.

BTW Pelosi's nephew also signed for an additional 11% sales tax on guns and ammunition. There was something about expanded gun free zones but I blacked out mentally and killed the browser tab.
 
KenV said:
Good grief. When my relatives move out of the CA rental, that thing is going on the market before they move out. I hope that keeps squatters away, and me off the evening news.

BTW Pelosi's nephew also signed for an additional 11% sales tax on guns and ammunition. There was something about expanded gun free zones but I blacked out mentally and killed the browser tab.
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Senate Bill 2, authored by Sen. Anthony Portantino, D-Burbank, will update the concealed carry licensing process, add new age restrictions, impose strict storage mandates and limit where permit holders can carry in public. After a vote of 28-8 in the state Senate on Tuesday, the legislation is headed to Gov.Sep 12, 2023

Newscum signed that bill today. It makes almost everywhere a "sensitive place" so it's virtually impossible to conceal carry.
 
So people like my brother use the green agenda to try and con people to comply so that you can braap on the weekend or a Friday night then those mofos come in and say sike!


theautowire.com

California Exhaust Noise Regulations Are Ridiculous - The Auto Wire

Many performance cars right out of the factory struggle to meet this standard, including one man’s Hyundai Elantra N.
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Report: California Looking To Restrict Travel For Classic Cars - The Auto Wire

A new report says California has been surveying classic car owners ahead of instituting zero-emission zones in the state.
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SanDiegoCJ said:
Senate Bill 2, authored by Sen. Anthony Portantino, D-Burbank, will update the concealed carry licensing process, add new age restrictions, impose strict storage mandates and limit where permit holders can carry in public. After a vote of 28-8 in the state Senate on Tuesday, the legislation is headed to Gov.Sep 12, 2023

Newscum signed that bill today. It makes almost everywhere a "sensitive place" so it's virtually impossible to conceal carry.
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At least the sidewalk crappers and drug shooters are safe. :homer:

That'll fall to a constitutional challenge some time after we've moved out. I would hope.
 
CarterKraft said:
So people like my brother use the green agenda to try and con people to comply so that you can braap on the weekend or a Friday night then those mofos come in and say sike!


theautowire.com

California Exhaust Noise Regulations Are Ridiculous - The Auto Wire

Many performance cars right out of the factory struggle to meet this standard, including one man’s Hyundai Elantra N.
theautowire.com theautowire.com

theautowire.com

Report: California Looking To Restrict Travel For Classic Cars - The Auto Wire

A new report says California has been surveying classic car owners ahead of instituting zero-emission zones in the state.
theautowire.com theautowire.com
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I try to not toss around the term 'pig' for LE, but after hearing the near-joyous tone in which the nonofficer told that Hyundai owner (first article) that he was about to lose $7K for a factory feature, I can't think of a more fitting term. Thugs with badges, indeed.
 
The Hyundai Elantra N model can exceed the long established standing decibel limit of 95 of many states. The sport mode is selectable, so it moves into a grey area. Laws are made to be broken meets fuck around and find out :idea:

I don't understand how that model got certified for sale here. The fart assing exhaust backfire intake choke pop does not enhance any performance or economy metric.
 
Splib said:
The Hyundai Elantra N model can exceed the long established standing decibel limit of 95 of many states. The sport mode is selectable, so it moves into a grey area. Laws are made to be broken meets fuck around and find out :idea:

I don't understand how that model got certified for sale here. The fart assing exhaust backfire intake choke pop does not enhance any performance or economy metric.
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because the state didn't follow the SAE test when they tested guys car.
you're supposed to test it in the default mode that the car starts in.
the state tester put it in track mode, then the state told guy he couldn't register his car ever again.
 
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