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DWT said:
Compared to MSNBC or CNN yea fox is hard right wing. Not exactly puritanical evangelists but it's still a myopic view if that's the only place you get your information.


I'm a centrist in that I realize everyone in the media is a liar for their own reasons. 15 years ago I was always listening to right wing radio (SiriusXM so it was 24/7 cycle) and one day I switched over to left wing to see what they had to say. It only took a few minutes to realize they were both 100% cherry picking whatever fit their narrative and agenda at the moment. I haven't watched the news or listened to "news" shows since that day.


No .gov is a great pipe dream that can never become a reality unless 90% of the population dies. We still need the .gov and .fed in some fashion but it has grown exponentially out of control these days.
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I do wish more people would realize these truths.
 
Yesterday I read comments from too many Blue morons rambling on about how her VP pic doesn’t matter. It’s just the vice president they’re voting for Kamala the first woman president not this old guy from the Midwest.

But somehow, Trump’s vice president pic is the absolute worst worst pick ever and it’s going to completely flush his whole campaign down the toilet.

Just once can they not be complete hypocrites, or not forget what they said a minute ago?
 
rockota said:
I don’t get the angle here….

Far left vp chooses farther left white governor from a non-swing and non-contested state. A state that has attached itself to California - if CA passes emissions/green stuff, MN adopts it by law. The only state that didn’t go to Reagan in 84…

What is she gaining?

And what is the DNC’s game plan? Walz over Newsome in 28?
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I have been thinking on the same thing. I believe (in my limited scope) that the D's may, at least partially, realize this year may be shot (and if not, and this team wins....MAJOR BONUS!)....and are gauging public sentiment as to just how far 'progressive' the country is or is willing to go.

Or....maybe they are just throwing shit all over the wall and are hoping it all sticks.

Whole damned thing is ridiculous.
 
Thatg9659 said:
Just once can they not be complete hypocrites, or not forget what they said a minute ago?
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Won't happen until society starts punishing it.

I would LOVE to see hypocrisy punished in all contexts. Not putting your money where your mouth is should make you a pariah.
 
rockota said:
I don’t get the angle here….

Far left vp chooses farther left white governor from a non-swing and non-contested state. A state that has attached itself to California - if CA passes emissions/green stuff, MN adopts it by law. The only state that didn’t go to Reagan in 84…

What is she gaining?

And what is the DNC’s game plan? Walz over Newsome in 28?
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Just let them keep making dumb moves and laugh. That's how they got in the position where they are now, where America's drunk wine mom VP of HR is running for office.

They are both empty vessels for donors to put ideas into and then they repeat them, neither of them have independent thoughts just whatever is programmed into them, and they are probably happy that way.

Dude also has a creepy mouth and smile, reminds me of:
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Democrats’ VP Choice Tim Walz Has a History of Working on the Side of Monied Interests Against Workers | naked capitalism

Walz’s folksy persona helps mask standard neoliberal positions, and Minnesota workers paid the price.
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Democrats’ VP Choice Tim Walz Has a History of Working on the Side of Monied Interests Against Workers​

Posted on August 7, 2024 by Conor Gallagher
I suppose the headline is obvious at this point, or Minnesota Governor Tim Walz wouldn’t be on the Democrats’ ticket, but it’s worth remembering amid all the hype.
I first became familiar with Walz last year when some in the media were describing Minnesota as a shining example of progressivism and the “best state for workers”, so I started to look into the legislation.
No doubt the state passed some decent bills. Here’s a thread listing them all:


What the thread misses, however, is that last year working Minnesotans organized and got two major pieces of legislation near the finish line that would’ve dramatically improved their lives, but those bills threatened the interests of the capital class. The monied interests in this case were Uber, Lyft, and the Mayo Clinic, and when their bottom lines were threatened they all responded with various threats. In each of these instances, Minnesota’s elected officials — led by Walz — quickly backed down.
So while Walz might be a former union member, he might look positively saintly next to the other finalist for the VP spot Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro, he might make for a friendly photo op and sound relatable to people who work for a living, but recent actions make it questionable just how much of a friend he is to American laborers.
Let’s look at the two cases last year where the Mayo Clinic, Lyft, and Uber provided marching orders to Walz. First the Mayo Clinic. Here are the details on the nurse staffing legislation from The Minnesota Reformer:
The Keeping Nurses at the Bedside Act (HF1700/SF1651), backed by the nurses’ union, would require hospitals to form committees made up of nurses and other hospital staff to create “core staffing plans” that include the maximum number of patients each nurse can typically safely care for.
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In response Mayo threatened to take its plans for new facilities and infrastructure worth billions to other states. [1] A Mayo executive wrote the following to the governor and legislative leaders:
Because these bills continue to proceed without meaningful and necessary changes to avert their harms to Minnesotans, we cannot proceed with seeking approval to make this investment in Minnesota. We will need to direct this enormous investment to other states.
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Democrats quickly caved, led by Walz who agreed to exempt the Mayo Clinic from the union-backed legislation. Once Mayo sprung a leak in the legislation, cracks began to emerge everywhere as other hospitals declared the double standards unfair, and soon the entire bill was dead.According to Mayo, Walz was key in throwing nurses under the bus. From Becker’s Hospital Review:
Its relationship with Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz was essential to its exemption from the Keeping Nurses at the Bedside Act — and the bill’s final-hour revisions, the health system said.
Mayo Clinic’s President and CEO Gianrico Farrugia, MD, said the health system remained “steadfast” in its position throughout the legislative session and expressed gratitude to those who backed them up — including the governor.
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The good news is that Mayo workers are soldiering on without him. From The Star Tribune:
Mayo Clinic is one of the world’s top hospitals, but hundreds of Rochester workers say the medical system isn’t treating its workers like they’re world-class. About 1,600 unionized clinical technicians, personal care attendants, janitors and others are seeking at least $20-per-hour wages, in line with other hospitals around Minnesota. Rochester nurses are looking into unionizing, which would create a union with more than 6,500 members in Minnesota’s third-largest city.
Meanwhile, thousands more workers are set to come to Rochester as Mayo builds its $5 billion expansion downtown.
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Aside from better wages, the chief concern of nurses at Mayo facilities is inadequate staffing — the very problem that Walz caved to Mayo on:
Karrie Ellingson, a personal care attendant and a member of the SEIU bargaining team at St. Marys, said her department needs 28 attendants to serve about 150 patients on average each day.
“We consistently have been working 30 percent short every day, not including PCAs who may call in ill,” she said.
Ashley Rohwer, a certified surgical technologist at Mayo for almost two decades, said in her department at St. Marys, union and nonunion workers put in a combined average of 30 hours of overtime each day.
“Most employees if they’re [scheduled] at an eight-hour shift on a regular basis, most of them are working 12-hour shifts,” she said.
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Mayo is now threatening its nurses with more limited work flexibility and “workforce issues” should they unionize.
Mayo, which in 2017 decided to prioritize the care of privately insured patients over those on Medicare and Medicaid, also killed efforts to create a Health Care Affordability Board in Minnesota last year. The committee would have monitored health care market trends and provided recommendations and oversight. Mayo didn’t just demand to be exempted from this bill but that it be axed altogether, writing:
This bill is extremely problematic and poses a huge threat to the well-being of Minnesota’s health care system as drafted. It must be removed from the HHS omnibus bill and consideration for Mayo to move forward with the previously stated investment.
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Once again, Mayo got what it wanted.
Now to Uber and Lyft. Details of the failed worker-friendly bill from the Minnesota Reformer:
The bill required transportation network companies, including Uber and Lyft, to pay drivers a $5 minimum fee plus $1.45 per mile and 34 cents per minute in the seven-county Twin Cities metropolitan area. Drivers in greater Minnesota would have been entitled to $1.25 per mile and 34 cents per minute. The minimum rates would have increased with inflation.
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Drivers would also have been entitled to 80% of cancellation fees if they already departed to pick up a rider as well as $1.25 per mile and 10 cents per minute if the companies charge customers for a “long pickup.”
Drivers were ecstatic at the prospects of better pay and protections:


But elected officials lacked the courage to stand behind workers when Uber went scorched earth, and in statements to news outlets across the state said the following:
If the bill is signed into law, beginning August 1, Uber will stop operating our ride service outside of Minneapolis-St. Paul metro area. In the metro area, we will only offer premium products to match the premium prices required by the bill.
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In the end, Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz vetoed the bill. A watered down version passed this year, however, which raises pay by $1.28 per mile and $0.31 per minute. Eid Ali, president of the Minnesota Uber/Lyft Drivers Association, said the law is progress, but still a letdown, especially in light of Walz vetoing a better version last year. “Letdown” is putting it kindly. What this year’s bill really did was strengthen Uber and Lyft’s duopoly in the state of Minnesota. From the Minnesota Reformer:
…the new law includes a series of anti-competitive mechanisms that will disadvantage any new competitor against the incumbents.
The application fees for ridehail companies are the biggest unaddressed issue that cements an anti-competitive market in place. Any Uber competitor entering the market first has to hand over nearly $100,000 in annual licensing fees to Minneapolis, St. Paul, and the Metropolitan Airports Commission.
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The Minnesota bill also removed cities’ ability to set wages, enforce them, and to collect data about ridehail operations in their jurisdiction. More:
Lastly, the bill didn’t advance Minneapolis’ ordinance language requiring ridehail companies to pay 80% of special event or surge pricing, and drivers know very well that “platform fees” and “external fees” eat deeply into their existing take rate. Some drivers have publicly posted earnings of $13 on a $55 Lyft ride.As only 28% of riders ever tip, and gross Uber wages are overall down 17% since 2022, it would be no surprise if drivers saw even less earnings after the implementation of this bill. It’s odd that this element of Minneapolis’ language didn’t make the final bill, but then again, it’s odd that most elements of this bill benefit Uber and Lyft at the cost of drivers, riders and competitors.
So, to summarize: the Legislature’s ridehail bill is anti-competitive. It increases the costs for new competitors and for riders, and raises the barriers of entry for competitors, while not readjusting the regulatory fee to compete against Uber and Lyft. It removes the ability for drivers to influence their city councils to secure higher wages again. It introduces potentially hundreds of thousands of dollars of undefined and extortive costs to be compliant with nameless driver’s advocacy organizations, while disallowing those organizations to once again coordinate with competitors to provide an alternative for Uber and Lyft.
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Walz, obviously, touts the bill as a major win for workers, but a closer look at the rideshare legislation and his servitude to big healthcare money show that “America’s dad” isn’t quite the friend of the common man he’s being made out to be.
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[1] As the Minnesota Reformer pointed out at the time, what possibly concerned the bigwigs at Mayo the most is that nursing staffing standards could have slammed the brakes on its emerging automation efforts, including an initiative with Google Health. Mayo
 
WY wifes liberal family from New England posting shit like this on FB cracks me up. Nothing like admitting you are a fucking dumbass on the internet for everybody to see......

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Where do they even come up with this shit? :shaking:
 
SLOWPOKE693 said:
WY wifes liberal family from New England posting shit like this on FB cracks me up. Nothing like admitting you are a fucking dumbass on the internet for everybody to see......

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Where do they even come up with this shit? :shaking:
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Everything is perception with these people. They never look at actual results and actual policies or actual behavior it’s always just their thoughts and emotions leading them to want authority over you and your decisions.

Honestly it’s getting depressing listening to this election cycle. The stupid low information people in our society who don’t understand history are going to drag us right into this allowing this dumb bitch to disarm our country. The damage will be irreversible.

The bus has USB! Cool so does my truck except there’s no knife wielding bums and drug addicts in it.
 
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