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State of housing costs in the US. Where does it end?

Was talking to someone in planning and permits the other day. She said she anticipated a crush on new permits by the end of the year. She added that this is a carryover year and they can follow 2018 international residential code until 1/1/25. The 2021 IRC will add a lot of cost to new construction regarding taller joists for more insulation for green initiatives and gfci throughout basements. Not sure how true but if it is new construction going to get more expensive…
 
Yep, or shit that you or I never think twice about feels like it should be illegal to them so they don't bother fighting it when some other retard from CA tries to get it to be a law. A CA conservatives threshold for bullshit is a lot different than actual conservatives because they're used to putting up with more of it.
I've been saying this for a fucking decade.

You can't un-poison these people.
 
Lol 😆 it keeps the wealthy out!
There's unfortunately a lot to be said for that.

Rich people fuck up everything, likely in part because they've paid away any "real problems" that would otherwise keep them occupied.
 
If you think I love California because of my political views... that's fine. I'm not here to impress people.

You believe yourself to be a conservative, but are comparing yourself to the freak leftists around you. You have hoisted your points of view around this place openly for years. You are not conservative, not by a long shot. Stay the fuck west of Nevada please.
 
The taxes are pretty unremarkable.
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There's unfortunately a lot to be said for that.

Rich people fuck up everything, likely in part because they've paid away any "real problems" that would otherwise keep them occupied.
I live on a paved state highway. Less then a mile away is a dirt road with about 20 houses on it. Sugaring season which as you know corresponds with mud season in vt. The couple wealthy folks are raising a ruckus because the road is soup. Well maybe 20 Amazon delivery's and fedx and ups a day.isn't helping! Naw it's the sap trucks.
 
I live on a paved state highway. Less then a mile away is a dirt road with about 20 houses on it. Sugaring season which as you know corresponds with mud season in vt. The couple wealthy folks are raising a ruckus because the road is soup. Well maybe 20 Amazon delivery's and fedx and ups a day.isn't helping! Naw it's the sap trucks.
Why would 20 deliveries take 20 trucks???:confused:
It should be 3 trucks. Amazon, UPS, and FedEx???
:confused:each delivery isn't on it's own truck.:confused:
 
Gun laws come to mind.
I've come to realize that that shit doesn't actually matter day to day if you're not a gun guy (and none of them follow the laws so it doesn't really matter to them either). The state will impoverish or kill you over capricious shit in a red state with good gun laws just the same (or even more readily in a lot of cases). If you do have to defend yourself it's a simple question of who the local prosecutor is which has to do more with the local area than the overall state.

If you want to be one of those boot licking "law abiding citizen" pieces of shit the red states are absolutely better but if you want to obey the bare minimum of laws the blue states can be better because there's more lawlessness to blend into.

NH is a little better. VT and ME are about the same or a little worse, depends on what kind of property you own and how your income is structured. The northeast in general has high taxes

If you're gonna pull shit out of your ass to try and make a point you should pick subjects that don't come with fancy infographics that even the dumbest boomers can understand.

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I live on a paved state highway. Less then a mile away is a dirt road with about 20 houses on it. Sugaring season which as you know corresponds with mud season in vt. The couple wealthy folks are raising a ruckus because the road is soup. Well maybe 20 Amazon delivery's and fedx and ups a day.isn't helping! Naw it's the sap trucks.

That road would be paved in Maine despite roughly equivalent tax burdens and road miles per dollar per capita.

So they do kinda have a point, where's the money going?
 
Why would 20 deliveries take 20 trucks???:confused:
It should be 3 trucks. Amazon, UPS, and FedEx???
:confused:each delivery isn't on it's own truck.:confused:

I've had FedEx to my place twice in the same day...different drivers.

Same with Amazon.

I've seen 2 Amazon trucks in the same hood at the same time.
 
That road would be paved in Maine despite roughly equivalent tax burdens and road miles per dollar per capita.

So they do kinda have a point, where's the money going?
Ah fuck them! It's a town road. 600 taxpayers. Steep hills, so why should we pay for the real work to pave a road that 20 taxpayers live on? And Maine is pretty flat in the populated areas.
 
Around here, it feels like most homes you'd want to raise your family in are occupied by Boomers who raised their families there, and never left. This is the case for my parents and in-laws and most other Boomers I know. I think part of the solution would be if there were more attractive retirement communities. My in-laws like the idea of downsizing into a retirement community, but they don't want to leave the town they spent the last 30+ years in. My dad wants to stay in his neighborhood, but there's nothing smaller worth downsizing to.

do you blame them for wanting to stay in a familiar place? i dont, not to mention if they move somewhere else there is a high risk for increased tax liabilities on property taxes in addition to capital gains especially in scotts valley.

Was talking to someone in planning and permits the other day. She said she anticipated a crush on new permits by the end of the year. She added that this is a carryover year and they can follow 2018 international residential code until 1/1/25. The 2021 IRC will add a lot of cost to new construction regarding taller joists for more insulation for green initiatives and gfci throughout basements. Not sure how true but if it is new construction going to get more expensive…

this is why insurance companies are bailing on high cost places. the would go bankrupt on rebuilds if there was a significant event.

Why would 20 deliveries take 20 trucks???:confused:
It should be 3 trucks. Amazon, UPS, and FedEx???
:confused:each delivery isn't on it's own truck.:confused:

ive watched amazon deliver to my house on two different trucks within minutes of each other. they prioritize delivery times over efficiency.
 
That road would be paved in Maine despite roughly equivalent tax burdens and road miles per dollar per capita.

So they do kinda have a point, where's the money going?
And maybe it's a private "non-county" road. I lived on a private dirt road in Ramona, California that was a muck-hole every winter when it rained.
 
Basically? :lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao:
Says the guy who not only carpetbagged to a not yet ruined state, he imported a whole family of Californians with him.

Maryland is much, much worse than MA, so is NJ.
The DC area is a special kind of hell. It's like all the boot licking of the rich parts of the Boston area cranked to 11. I have never before seen such a high proportion of people who are a substantially negative value to society.

NJ didn't bother me too much. Everything was shitty and expensive like NY but there seemed to be more typical disregard for the law and therefore more day to day freedom. I'm sure it varies by area though.
 
ive watched amazon deliver to my house on two different trucks within minutes of each other. they prioritize delivery times over efficiency.
They all do. I get Amazon, UPS, and FedEx deliveries at my office daily and it's not uncommon for us to get 5-6 different trucks in a day and I'll still see different trucks from all 3 companies go up and down this road to other businesses all day long.
 
ive watched amazon deliver to my house on two different trucks within minutes of each other. they prioritize delivery times over efficiency.
If you're in the service area of multiple warehouses shit will come from different warehouses depending on what the algorithm says is best.
 
You believe yourself to be a conservative, but are comparing yourself to the freak leftists around you. You have hoisted your points of view around this place openly for years. You are not conservative, not by a long shot. Stay the fuck west of Nevada please.

ooof, that was violence i wasnt prepared for today.
 
I've come to realize that that shit doesn't actually matter day to day if you're not a gun guy (and none of them follow the laws so it doesn't really matter to them either). The state will impoverish or kill you over capricious shit in a red state with good gun laws just the same (or even more readily in a lot of cases). If you do have to defend yourself it's a simple question of who the local prosecutor is which has to do more with the local area than the overall state.

If you want to be one of those boot licking "law abiding citizen" pieces of shit the red states are absolutely better but if you want to obey the bare minimum of laws the blue states can be better because there's more lawlessness to blend into.


NH is a little better. VT and ME are about the same or a little worse, depends on what kind of property you own and how your income is structured. The northeast in general has high taxes

If you're gonna pull shit out of your ass to try and make a point you should pick subjects that don't come with fancy infographics that even the dumbest boomers can understand.

Tax-Burden-by-State_Site.jpg
I'm skeptical of this.

Texas 7.6%... Well Figure in property tax AND Sales Tax on any product bought (outside of groceries) ??

Sales tax is 8.25 % on taxable items... in most of Texas that people actually live in. And sales tax IS LOCAL TAXES.
 
I'm skeptical of this.

Texas 7.6%... Well Figure in property tax AND Sales Tax on any product bought (outside of groceries) ??

Sales tax is 8.25 % on taxable items... in most of Texas that people actually live in. And sales tax IS LOCAL TAXES.

state law says the local cant be higher than 8.25%. some are lower, some are maxed out.

the graphic says "percentage of personal income paid to state and local taxes". you dont spend all your income buying things.

so they are probably taking the median income in the state and the median SALT (property and sales tax) spending and getting the percentage.

i can see it working out.
 
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