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east_beast said:
They must've had to refuel. There was about a two hour break and now they're back ripping again. Like fucking ground shaking shit. This is ridiculous. I'd try to take a video but as you know by the time you hear it they've been gone.
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If you were standing outside looking towards the end of the runway you could see them coming landing gear stll down looked like some kind of flying insect
 
Provience said:
It's fine, you want to be left alone unless somebody might disagree with you, then you want to impose your will on them because it might get back to you because you can't leave well enough alone.

Just stop lying to yourself by saying you want to be left alone.

There isn't enough ability to control the world, your desire to do so will always lead to ruin
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I don't mind people disagreeing with me. You disagree with me and I think you are awesome. It is once you get in my way that we'll have a problem... I'll either have to walk around you or whatever...

You just want to buy the world a coke and teach it harmony and I'm not all that interested in that. I want folks to do whatever they want so long as it doesn't cause me grief. Simple.

So, good luck King of Kumbaya! You go hangout with your comrades and see how that goes.:smokin::smokin::smokin::lmao::lmao::lmao::flipoff2::flipoff2:
 
east_beast said:
What I'm saying is that I kinda understand their motivations. We've completely surrounded them with military bases and tried to make inroads with their neighbors diplomatically to box them in. Whe. They even attempt to do similarly we howl like a hit dog.
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don't look now, but they also have bases everywhere and they also scream when we put one close to them. Often, they lack the leverage to keep them, so they have to remove them (at least symbolically)
 
gladman said:
I don't mind people disagreeing with me. You disagree with me and I think you are awesome. It is once you get in my way that we'll have a problem... I'll either have to walk around you or whatever...

You just want to buy the world a coke and teach it harmony and I'm not all that interested in that. I want folks to do whatever they want so long as it doesn't cause me grief. Simple.

So, good luck King of Kumbaya! You go hangout with your comrades and see how that goes.:smokin::smokin::smokin::lmao::lmao::lmao::flipoff2::flipoff2:
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The communists are intolerant, they want to buy the world a coke and live in harmony.

I want to be left alone and don't care if you are fucked up to your neighbor, just saty off my lawn.

That is thr difference between your communist desire to control the world, a world away with your minority view of right and my desire to be left alone :flipoff2:
 
Provience said:
The communists are intolerant, they want to buy the world a coke and live in harmony.

I want to be left alone and don't care if you are fucked up to your neighbor, just saty off my lawn.

That is thr difference between your communist desire to control the world, a world away with your minority view of right and my desire to be left alone :flipoff2:
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but you said that the russians were right and that you were sympathetic to them. I said anyone who supports Russia is a traitor.

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I say fuck both of them, and I think I have a glimmer of understanding of why Russia invaded, not that I'm sympathetic to them.

Just so you know.:flipoff2:

I don't have much sympathy for Ukraine either, and consider the whole situation a Pre Ordained by the USA major Diplomatic Fail.
 
gladman said:
don't look now, but they also have bases everywhere and they also scream when we put one close to them. Often, they lack the leverage to keep them, so they have to remove them (at least symbolically)
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They don't on the vicinity of the U.S. while we're doing our best to surround them.

Fuck 'em. I don't support them. I just want my government to start actually working in our best interests instead of constantly poking the bears just to see how far they can push things. I don't need us to dominate the whole world and ultimately it's just not sustainable anyway so long-term trying to pull that off isn't in our best interests.
 
gladman said:
Remember MOST of our problems are self inflicted.
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gladman said:
to weaken and destablilize them to the degree that their fear is greater than their courage so they keep their 'final solution' in their pocket.
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JD Mark said:
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yes what we do to them, they do to us... which has the effect of weakening us and making us vulnerable. If that is irony, okay. But it is how it is.
I'm not making the news, I'm just reporting it.
 
CEO. CFO. Anything else is new to anyone else. I did work at the Der Weinerschnitzel on PCH in 1974

If you don’t know what PCH is you are the problem. :flipoff2:
 
Provience said:
I want to be left alone, if that means we have to manage the world to achieve that, okay, I'm for that.



Said every tyrant ever. The commies had 2/3 of the world population in the 1960s. Guess we should've gone along with them
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sucking some commie dick right there.:lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao:
 
gladman said:
sucking some commie dick right there.:lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao:
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You're the dude trying to say 1 nation should rule them all. Thr point of that post was 70% of the world was "united" under what they seemed to have as their own "good moral authority".

So you're ranting about wanting to show up and topple most of the world, the significant majority even, because of what you think is good.

See how that is the opposite of "be left alone"? It's a whole lot of "dominate others"
 
Provience said:
You're the dude trying to say 1 nation should rule them all. Thr point of that post was 70% of the world was "united" under what they seemed to have as their own "good moral authority".

So you're ranting about wanting to show up and topple most of the world, the significant majority even, because of what you think is good.

See how that is the opposite of "be left alone"? It's a whole lot of "dominate others"
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I see that close reading is hard for you because you know how you want every story to turn out.

I want to be left alone, but I want my country, which I believe to have the best system on the planet (flawed but still the best) and the country that has the most to offer people, to lead the world and to help keep threats to me and mine away from me.

I'm not dominating anybody, I'm not doing any of it. But, I support my country doing it since the world (which I have traveled widely) would be benefit from our way of doing stuff. I believe in America and our way and our government and our system flawed though it is. It is the best the planet has to offer.

For the countries that want to live in peace with us and be partners, awesome, room for everybody, welcome, lets work together. For other countries that want to be left alone, cool, you stay in your place all good. and for our adversaries who would want to take what we have, go get'em.

The problem is that the world is full of flawed people... so, someone will have to run the show. I'd prefer that to be us.

This isn't neocon or any other offshoot. This is mainstream, regular American. This is what most Americans believe and want.
 
gladman said:
what town?
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Hermosa Beach. Corner of . . . .. It's gone now. I went to work stoned one night and quit. A ravenous feral dog came and begged. We threw it one dog, then another, then another. It eventually ate an entire case of hot dogs, and it was bulging and sleepy on grease and slaughter house by products. It was too much for my young stoned mind and I quit. :idea:
Made quite an impression. I think pay was $1.25 an hour. Kool Starry Breh. :laughing: Pacific Coast Highway was the line between the beach, us, and them, the rest of the entire LA basin population of kooks and freaks.
 
Splib said:
Hermosa Beach. Corner of . . . .. It's gone now. I went to work stoned one night and quit. A ravenous feral dog came and begged. We threw it one dog, then another, then another. It eventually ate an entire case of hot dogs, and it was bulging and sleepy on grease and slaughter house by products. It was too much for my young stoned mind and I quit. :idea:
Made quite an impression. I think pay was $1.25 an hour. Kool Starry Breh. :laughing: Pacific Coast Highway was the line between the beach, us, and them, the rest of the entire LA basin population of kooks and freaks.
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went there MANY times! it was a great one! I used to work in long lines special services for the phone company near the airport and commuted for a summer to my parents place. I used to busk on the redondo pier pretty often.. like 1978... what a great summer that was... and chil cheese dogs! I had blue 72 vw bug... I later sold the car to a cop and as he drove away, I kind of thought, 'oh man... the things that car has been around....'
 
gladman said:
I see that close reading is hard for you because you know how you want every story to turn out.

I want to be left alone, but I want my country, which I believe to have the best system on the planet (flawed but still the best) and the country that has the most to offer people, to lead the world and to help keep threats to me and mine away from me.

I'm not dominating anybody, I'm not doing any of it. But, I support my country doing it since the world (which I have traveled widely) would be benefit from our way of doing stuff. I believe in America and our way and our government and our system flawed though it is. It is the best the planet has to offer.

For the countries that want to live in peace with us and be partners, awesome, room for everybody, welcome, lets work together. For other countries that want to be left alone, cool, you stay in your place all good. and for our adversaries who would want to take what we have, go get'em.

The problem is that the world is full of flawed people... so, someone will have to run the show. I'd prefer that to be us.

This isn't neocon or any other offshoot. This is mainstream, regular American. This is what most Americans believe and want.
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You don't want to dominate others, but you want your money and people to dominate others, your country should save the world from themselves.

There isn't enough capacity. Your mindset has largely ran the last 100 years of foreign policy in this country. We aren't better off today for it, neither is the world.

We can even dominate our quarter of the globe. That should be the easy stuff. Nevermind our half or the other side.

You can't see how much damage it is doing to you. You can't see how you want to be left alone yet demanding others be absolutely not left alone doesn't jive
 
Provience said:
You don't want to dominate others, but you want your money and people to dominate others, your country should save the world from themselves.

There isn't enough capacity. Your mindset has largely ran the last 100 years of foreign policy in this country. We aren't better off today for it, neither is the world.

We can even dominate our quarter of the globe. That should be the easy stuff. Nevermind our half or the other side.

You can't see how much damage it is doing to you. You can't see how you want to be left alone yet demanding others be absolutely not left alone doesn't jive
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all of your statements are about what we can't do.

I'm heading up to the mtns this morning for 5 days to see some friends, and have some fun. I will ponder the damage I'm enduring maybe just before a nap or while hiking or fishing...
 
gladman said:
all of your statements are about what we can't do.

I'm heading up to the mtns this morning for 5 days to see some friends, and have some fun. I will ponder the damage I'm enduring maybe just before a nap or while hiking or fishing...
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Don't check the value of the dollar or consider your countrymen who have died to support your cause of world control, so that you can be "left alone" :flipoff2:
 
This is the Ukraine thread right ? We learned surprisingly a while ago that Russian gas, methane, was being pumped across Ukraine from Russia to the EU even as the war raged in. Is this still true ? :confused:
 
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