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When Zelensky stops being a useful idiot, his "disappearance" won't be from the Russian side. They LOVE it: it's exposing EVERYONE.
The fact that Zelensky is still alive tells me he has contingencies in place to expose the whole mess should he be killed. Maybe we'll get lucky, the Russians will kill him and the information he's holding will be released.
 
Dunno where those extra twits came from, only posted 4
 
The fact that Zelensky is still alive tells me he has contingencies in place to expose the whole mess should he be killed. Maybe we'll get lucky, the Russians will kill him and the information he's holding will be released.

$1.00 he’s not even in the country
 
Cant the GPS signals the drone uses be corrupted or fucked with ?
 
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Slow to the party, yet again.

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Unless I missed something, I was first to provide any kind of source backing up what I said.
Unlike the current "news media" method of "post first, check the facts after" (as long as it matches their preferred paradigm)...

Aaron Z
 
Russia DOD reports that the drones that attacked the Black Sea fleet in Sevastopol were launched from one of the grain freighters. Russia agreed to open the corridor if the grain went to improvised nations instead it went to Europe and England.
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Russia DOD reports that the drones that attacked the Black Sea fleet in Sevastopol were launched from one of the grain freighters. Russia agreed to open the corridor if the grain went to improvised nations instead it went to Europe and England.

Dont doubt it. Ukraine has set a precedent of using civilian assets/structures to fight from. Why would Russia let anything through going forward.
 
Awesome, it'll be like the Egyptian/Israeli war all over again. Can you pull up when that was again?

Maybe the UKR can use that one IS-3 (JS-3) it found years ago.
Sept 14 - last Fri.

You miss the point entirely. It's not that these T-62m's significantly add to UKR military capability, it's that they are on the battlefield at all and being captured intact in some quantity instead of being disabled by their own retreating crews.
 
Sept 14 - last Fri.

You miss the point entirely. It's not that these T-62m's significantly add to UKR military capability, it's that they are on the battlefield at all and being captured intact in some quantity instead of being disabled by their own retreating crews.
Did Russia use the T-62's ? Yes but only for Police action in the rear. The photos Ukraine posted are from an old Ukraine cold war storage are near Liman. Some pictures on Telegram showed this storage area and wondered if the Russians would destroy the equipment. The photos used and compared to the Telegram photos a few months ago have the same equipment in them but shot from different angels. Ukraine is good at doing this.
 
Russia DOD reports that the drones that attacked the Black Sea fleet in Sevastopol were launched from one of the grain freighters. Russia agreed to open the corridor if the grain went to improvised nations instead it went to Europe and England.
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Let them eat cake.
 
Did Russia use the T-62's ? Yes but only for Police action in the rear. The photos Ukraine posted are from an old Ukraine cold war storage are near Liman. Some pictures on Telegram showed this storage area and wondered if the Russians would destroy the equipment. The photos used and compared to the Telegram photos a few months ago have the same equipment in them but shot from different angels. Ukraine is good at doing this.

Except the ones shown as captured by UKR all have the BDD applique armor that was only used on the M variants that only Russia has (had) and most have cope cages on top?

If you think the Ukraine is the only side making things up here you are drinking too much of the Koolaid.

I don't support Ukraine or the ungodly amounts of money we are coming up with to further the conflict, but I am genuinely interested in the analytics of the imagery and machines being used.
 
Except the ones shown as captured by UKR all have the BDD applique armor that was only used on the M variants that only Russia has (had) and most have cope cages on top?

If you think the Ukraine is the only side making things up here you are drinking too much of the Koolaid.

I don't support Ukraine or the ungodly amounts of money we are coming up with to further the conflict, but I am genuinely interested in the analytics of the imagery and machines being used.
Like this one? Captured no reactive armor. No cages. Not even ones that were spotted on trains had any other reactive armor. It easy enough to grab pictures from some other conflict. And perhaps these are also.
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Like this one? Captured no reactive armor. No cages. Not even ones that were spotted on trains had any other reactive armor. It easy enough to grab pictures from some other conflict. And perhaps these are also.
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I didn't say reactive armor (ERA like Kontakt or Relikt), I said BDD applique which is on the front 1/3 of the turret and is just a piece of RHA. It might have the BDD package, it would be right where the guy on the right is standing, but it might not. You can see the box on top of the main gun immediately to the left of the IR light, which is the laser rangefinder added during the M modernization. Those also look like the later tracks, used on T-72's as found on the M's.

These all are absolutely M's and it's just a grab of the most recent:
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ERA was added to the T-62MVs (Kontakt-1 specifically), which are also being captured in smaller numbers:

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Tanks are a little different here.
Article is propaganda. This line "Those dynamics radically changed after February. The Kremlin committed 80% of its ground forces to a wider invasion of Ukraine—and promptly lost many of them in a doomed bid to capture Kyiv." Russia never had 80% of ground forces. Most of the fighting forces were a mix of DPR Chechen and others. Russia had very few actual ground forces in the conflict. The post from Icono with Douglas MacGregor mentions the same. One should watch the Youtube. Though they did have forces on the initial Kyiv blunder.
 
Article is propaganda. This line "Those dynamics radically changed after February. The Kremlin committed 80% of its ground forces to a wider invasion of Ukraine—and promptly lost many of them in a doomed bid to capture Kyiv." Russia never had 80% of ground forces. Most of the fighting forces were a mix of DPR Chechen and others. Russia had very few actual ground forces in the conflict. The post from Icono with Douglas MacGregor mentions the same. One should watch the Youtube.

Like a lot of the stuff we've been seeing over the past three years, there's A LOT of misleading/false news and propaganda.

I'm just sharing the shit that's being reported in here so people can see what's being pushed out.
 
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