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Bggrnchvy said:
My paraphrasing of both an article and open source intelligence in a single sentence, but you knew that. Did you have anything of any value to add?

www.forbes.com

Ukraine Is Collecting A Lot Of Russia’s Old T-62 Tanks

The Ukrainian armed forces now have captured enough T-62s from the Russians to form a T-62 battalion of their own.
www.forbes.com www.forbes.com

www.oryxspioenkop.com

Attack On Europe: Documenting Russian Equipment Losses During The Russian Invasion Of Ukraine

www.oryxspioenkop.com www.oryxspioenkop.com
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Awesome, it'll be like the Egyptian/Israeli war all over again. Can you pull up when that was again?

Maybe the UKR can use that one IS-3 (JS-3) it found years ago.


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Ukraine corridor was used for drone attack on Russian Black Fleet. Russia closed it today. Also claimed the UK was the villain of the pipeline destruction.

Statement of the Russian Foreign Ministry on the "Black Sea initiative" for the export of Ukrainian food

On October 29, the Ukrainian armed forces, under the cover of a humanitarian corridor created as part of the implementation of the “Black Sea Initiative” to export Ukrainian agricultural products, launched massive air and sea strikes using unmanned aerial vehicles against ships and infrastructure of the Russian Black Sea Fleet at the naval base in Sevastopol.

In connection with the actions of the Ukrainian armed forces, led by British specialists, directed, among other things, against Russian ships that ensure the functioning of the specified humanitarian corridor (which cannot be qualified otherwise than as a terrorist attack), the Russian side cannot guarantee the safety of civilian dry cargo ships participating in the "Black Sea Initiative ”, and suspends its implementation from today for an indefinite period. Corresponding instructions were given to Russian representatives at the Joint Coordination Center in Istanbul, which controls the transportation of Ukrainian food.
 
Bggrnchvy said:
My paraphrasing of both an article and open source intelligence in a single sentence, but you knew that. Did you have anything of any value to add?

www.forbes.com

Ukraine Is Collecting A Lot Of Russia’s Old T-62 Tanks

The Ukrainian armed forces now have captured enough T-62s from the Russians to form a T-62 battalion of their own.
www.forbes.com www.forbes.com

www.oryxspioenkop.com

Attack On Europe: Documenting Russian Equipment Losses During The Russian Invasion Of Ukraine

www.oryxspioenkop.com www.oryxspioenkop.com
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Ukraine mouth pieces lol.
 
Worst tank battle EVER.

Seriously...

This is how NOT to do it, on both sides....

 
Broncokyle88 said:
Man, I love shit like that. All the fanciful military doctrine in the world doesn’t mean shit once shells start flying.

“But that’s not how you’re supposed to use it”

“Well, that’s how it’s getting used today”:lmao::lmao::lmao:
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Yeah, sure is different when the other guy has an equal chance of killing you, huh?

:goofball:


Also, the drone visuals were nice, weren't they?

:smokin:
 
Russian DOD also announced Starlink is a military target when being used by the Ukraine army. There was also some submarine drones used on the Attack on the Black Sea fleet today. These need guidance and there was a US drone in the area. Its just a matter of time when the muse of using Ukraine for the wests use of military equipment will drag everyone into WW3.
 
Broncokyle88 said:
I feel that is a short coming with the way our military is structured nowadays. An over reliance on technology and the doctrine that follows it.

What happens if we fight a near peer instead of a third world shit hole? We haven’t really had someone shooting back in a meaningful way since Vietnam.

What happens when we burn through our stock pile of drones and smart munitions? It’s not like we can have any old factory just stamp them out of sheet metal like a grease gun. There’s lead times and semi conductors involved, a very limited number of companies are capable of producing them.

What if the airspace is contested? And we can’t achieve that 360* real time view of the battle space we’ve come to rely on so heavily these past 2 decades? How does that change the decision making at all levels when command is forced to visualize what is happening instead of actually viewing it?


We’re so used to those things, that if we were to go to war with Russia like the leftist so desperately want, there’s going to come a point where we are left standing there with our dicks in our hands trying to figure out what we should do next because all of our fancy toys are broken
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Very good points. It used to be Improvise, adapt and overcome but with the over reliance on technology with our weapons will they even work if some hostile party hacks the operating systems of them. Will our system of combat work if comms are cut off and with that the flow of information?
 
Redrider said:
Russian DOD also announced Starlink is a military target when being used by the Ukraine army. There was also some submarine drones used on the Attack on the Black Sea fleet today. These need guidance and there was a US drone in the area. Its just a matter of time when the muse of using Ukraine for the wests use of military equipment will drag everyone into WW3.
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I'm curious what their intention is regarding Starlink. Are they going to use their space laser to vapourize the satellites?


Might be cool to watch if they do. :laughing: A nice light show to announce the start of WW3.
 
And yet I haven't seen any evidence that a simple Shahed Iranian drone command signal can be effectively interdicted and blocked.
 
Scott Cee aka 2drx4 said:
I'm curious what their intention is regarding Starlink. Are they going to use their space laser to vapourize the satellites?


Might be cool to watch if they do. :laughing: A nice light show to announce the start of WW3.
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I'd imagine broad spectrum jamming with as much equipment and wattage as they can muster.
 
87manche said:
I'd imagine broad spectrum jamming with as much equipment and wattage as they can muster.
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Ya. But not so far, Ja ?? I recall the Iranians recovered a US Drone, but not sure it it was the big one that carries a lot of tech or ordnance, and if it was disabled by Buzz buzz or shot down,
 
87manche said:
I'd imagine broad spectrum jamming with as much equipment and wattage as they can muster.
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That's boring.

Did they take apart that bigasses antenna in Siberia that broadcasted the Russian Woodpecker signal? :laughing: The other one is in the Ukraine so using it is probably out of the picture. I would be amused to see that sucker fired up in it's whole 10Mw glory again to be used for jamming Starlink, not as good as space lasers, but yeah.

(I'm sure that's not technically feasible anyway)
 
Splib said:
And yet I haven't seen any evidence that a simple Shahed Iranian drone command signal can be effectively interdicted and blocked.
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I haven't seen any evidence that those aren't fire and forget.
you program the desitnation and send it on it's way. Unless you're willing to jam all the GPS/Glonass shit for a wide area I don't think there's anything you can do about it. Even then there's nothing stopping it from using dead reckoning with it's own instruments.
 
87manche said:
I'd imagine broad spectrum jamming with as much equipment and wattage as they can muster.
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You can flood an area with enough RF energy to block signals from passing through that area. Did it in the military. :homer:
 
Splib said:
Ya. But not so far, Ja ?? I recall the Iranians recovered a US Drone, but not sure it it was the big one that carries a lot of tech or ordnance, and if it was disabled by Buzz buzz or shot down,
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From what I remember of the incident the Iranians did something with its GPS system and kept feeding it info that was just a little bit off until it landed at their airbase.
 
Scott Cee aka 2drx4 said:
That's boring.

Did they take apart that bigasses antenna in Siberia that broadcasted the Russian Woodpecker signal? :laughing: The other one is in the Ukraine so using it is probably out of the picture. I would be amused to see that sucker fired up in it's whole 10Mw glory again to be used for jamming Starlink, not as good as space lasers, but yeah.

(I'm sure that's not technically feasible anyway)
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I don't think it exists anymore.
Probably no way to mak the antennas work in a starlink frequency real well anyhow. That shit was HF right?
 
87manche said:
I haven't seen any evidence that those aren't fire and forget.
you program the desitnation and send it on it's way. Unless you're willing to jam all the GPS/Glonass shit for a wide area I don't think there's anything you can do about it. Even then there's nothing stopping it from using dead reckoning with it's own instruments.
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I imagine the little gyros they sell for the RC crowd could probably keep a "drone" airplane on track pretty well for 100km? Probably with an Arduino and some open source code to get it done?
 
87manche said:
I don't think it exists anymore.
Probably no way to mak the antennas work in a starlink frequency real well anyhow. That shit was HF right?
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Probably. Don't remember. I just know it was called the Woodpecker because the amateur radio geeks were picking up this massive pulsed signal. So it was somewhere in the HF range I'd suspect.

A guy could just read wikipedia and know, but eh.
 
Scott Cee aka 2drx4 said:
That's boring.

Did they take apart that bigasses antenna in Siberia that broadcasted the Russian Woodpecker signal? :laughing: The other one is in the Ukraine so using it is probably out of the picture. I would be amused to see that sucker fired up in it's whole 10Mw glory again to be used for jamming Starlink, not as good as space lasers, but yeah.

(I'm sure that's not technically feasible anyway)
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I'm surprised you didn't bring up HAARP.

Syphilis not completely take your brain, yet?

:flipoff2:
 
Scott Cee aka 2drx4 said:
I imagine the little gyros they sell for the RC crowd could probably keep a "drone" airplane on track pretty well for 100km? Probably with an Arduino and some open source code to get it done?
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The Germans figured it out in the mid 40s so I'm sure the technology has improved since then. Also with no external guidance source you don't have to worry about it getting hacked and used against you.
 
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