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Fake and gay. As in the CIA wrote, I mean found, those orders. I don't believe any "intel" coming out of our own government surrounding war plans as factual. These are the same people who repeatedly lied us into multiple wars that we have lost, not credible.
I agree, likely just pushing the narative to justify the bullshit that they are complicit in.
 
Fake and gay. As in the CIA wrote, I mean found, those orders. I don't believe any "intel" coming out of our own government surrounding war plans as factual. These are the same people who repeatedly lied us into multiple wars that we have lost, not credible.
Right. All they did was white-out “Iraq” which was already written over a whited-out “gulf of Tonkin” and write in “Ukraine” in their “intel report” :laughing:
 
I usually keep Newsmax muted on an old tablet. If something catches my eye, I can turn up the volume.

A few days ago I see, of all people, that fuck Bolton being interviewed regarding the Ukraine. With that fucking mustache. That dude is no good and he never has been. He is a fucking warmonger. If he is involved, then we are headed to a war because that is the only thing that fuck has ever pushed for.

So there is US intel that Russia is planning to invade Ukraine? Are these the same intel agencies that 'found' WMDs in Iran? Bolton was part of that one, too.

:mad3:
 
At this point I suspect the Russians are allowing fake intel to be intercepted and the Biden admin is cherrypicking this obvious garbage to suit their agenda. No one in the mainstream media will contradict the admin at this point.
 
alright, resolve this statement for me.

“President Biden has been very clear about the fact that we are not going to employ forces in Ukraine,” said Austin. “We will make sure we do everything possible to protect our troops and Polish partners so there isn’t a spillover across boundaries.”


I know there was some hub-bub a while back with "biden gives putin green light to invade ukraine" but i honestly didn't follow it much.
 
US says "russia will invade ukraine"
Russia says "ukraine is genociding people"
Ukraine says "everybody shut the fuck up, you are all high"

in the even russia does invade ukraine, the US is then going to just ensure it doesn't spill over to poland and not augment NATO for the defense of ukraine :confused:
 
I usually keep Newsmax muted on an old tablet. If something catches my eye, I can turn up the volume.

A few days ago I see, of all people, that fuck Bolton being interviewed regarding the Ukraine. With that fucking mustache. That dude is no good and he never has been. He is a fucking warmonger. If he is involved, then we are headed to a war because that is the only thing that fuck has ever pushed for.

So there is US intel that Russia is planning to invade Ukraine? Are these the same intel agencies that 'found' WMDs in Iran? Bolton was part of that one, too.

:mad3:
That Orville Redenbacher doppelganger sociopathic war criminal should have to lead the charge into the battle for all the wars he advocates for. Get your old ass on the front lines for the first wave in....
 
Right. All they did was white-out “Iraq” which was already written over a whited-out “gulf of Tonkin” and write in “Ukraine” in their “intel report” :laughing:
Get ready for the yellow red cake uranium to be shown Infront of Congress any day now
 
Putin and Biden are working out the details of this shit show. "Intel" is those 2 fucks on the phone. Putin "ok, we will invade Wednesday" Biden to the media "Russia will invade Wednesday" Putin "WTF? You weren't supposed to tell everyone" now they are working on a new date.
 
It occured to me this am, Putin is doing this to ruin hunters income. Which in turn is his daddys income.

Im more concerned about the weather
 

Fucking wild listening to Fox News of all places talk about "policing the world" as a "left wing" ideology. :laughing:
This is why no one should take any major American "news" outlet seriously. I can count one one hand the number of administrations who haven't followed that ideology since Teddy Roosevelt was in office. It has fuck all to do with left/right wing.
 
Putin and Biden are working out the details of this shit show. "Intel" is those 2 fucks on the phone. Putin "ok, we will invade Wednesday" Biden to the media "Russia will invade Wednesday" Putin "WTF? You weren't supposed to tell everyone" now they are working on a new date.
I am hoping it is just a joke plot to make OBiden look stupider. It was kinda funny watching him spout that crap so authoratatively. Buzz: wrong! Where are your fact checkers now Mr. Potato!
 
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In case anyone is interested. This is from my Ukrainian friend living in Kyiv.

" We are all calm. Most likely this is a plan to continue to cause fear among the population. Well, plus money is allocated for the alleged war, so it’s profitable to scare like that. People in fear are easier to control. It seems to me that if something was planned, an attack in the sense, then they would be silent about it and quietly attacked. And so much noise, it means that it is profitable."

She has a very good point.
 
In case anyone is interested. This is from my Ukrainian friend living in Kyiv.

" We are all calm. Most likely this is a plan to continue to cause fear among the population. Well, plus money is allocated for the alleged war, so it’s profitable to scare like that. People in fear are easier to control. It seems to me that if something was planned, an attack in the sense, then they would be silent about it and quietly attacked. And so much noise, it means that it is profitable."

She has a very good point.

thanks for the secondhand input, very interesting to hear
 

It’s amazing that we still give the intel communities any credence after WMD’s, Russian collusion, hacked elections, etc….
 
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It’s amazing that we still give the intel communities and credence after WMD’s, Russian collusion, hacked elections, etc….
That's because most people are stupid enough to think that 'intelligence' actually means intelligence, when anyone who actually is intelligent knows that that assumption could not be any further from he truth.
 
It’s amazing that we still give the intel communities and credence after WMD’s, Russian collusion, hacked elections, etc….
Damn near the entire history of our intel communities is falsifying public information to justify otherwise illegal action by our government. The intel community works for those in power, not the people they're supposed to represent.
 
Starfish pics?

To verify that she’s a legitimate Ukrainian, not a Russian plant spreading false information:flipoff2:
I'm a bit of a scientist myself. Can you elaborate on the subtle differences between a Ukranian and a Russian butthole?
 
In case anyone is interested. This is from my Ukrainian friend living in Kyiv.

" We are all calm. Most likely this is a plan to continue to cause fear among the population. Well, plus money is allocated for the alleged war, so it’s profitable to scare like that. People in fear are easier to control. It seems to me that if something was planned, an attack in the sense, then they would be silent about it and quietly attacked. And so much noise, it means that it is profitable."

She has a very good point.

I completely buy that wag-the-dog manipulation is going on...

..but how about the 150K troops on the border?

(I mean, I haven't seen them, so maybe they're not even there, but that kind of buildup sure seems to signal something about Putin's mood.)
 

And there it is.

Cliffs: Russian Military to move into Donetsk and Lugansk to act as peace keepers after recognizing their independence.

Now, we wait for the world to do nothing after hyping crippling sanctions for the last month.
 

And there it is.

Cliffs: Russian Military to move into Donetsk and Lugansk to act as peace keepers after recognizing their independence.

Now, we wait for the world to do nothing after hyping crippling sanctions for the last month.
Donetsk and Lugansk declared independence from Kiev in 2014, after US-backed nationalists overthrew the democratically elected government in the Maidan coup. However, Moscow has refused to recognize them until now, saying the problem is an internal affair of Ukraine and needs to be resolved according to the Minsk agreements, which established an uneasy armistice in 2015.

soo....not ukraine?
 
Ah, just like the military bases the USSR had in the eastern european puppet countries.
That's what I'm thinking too.


Like it was described before:
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