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Ohio train derailment.

As big of a deal as this is, surely somewhere out there there's a guy like that guy that covered the absolute shit out of the Oroville dam disaster. I hope. And I hope the IBB finds that guy or someone becomes that guy and does it. They don't mention this at ALL on any news i've seen here in NC. I don't watch national news it just pisses me off. Local news is bad enough when the 3 women on there get to chattering about dog sweaters and fucking nonsense from one commercial break to the next and haven't said a damn thing that counts as anything.
 
ThePanzerFuhrer said:
This wreck is similar to the weyauwega train derailment we had in the 90’s. This derailment was only 2 sodium hydroxide and 7 propane cars. They had to evacuate the town for 18 days to let the cars burn out.

They were really worried about a BLEVE(boiling liquid expanding vapor explosion) fire. Thank god it was in the winter and was 10 degrees out which helped keep the cars cool enough.

This disaster caused the fire department my dad worked for send him to a train car derailment school. Said it was a pretty cool school. They learned how to hot tap a derailed car to bleed the contents. They also showed them how to empty cars with an armored dozer.

They even offered my dad a job with them because of his equipment operation background. Thankfully he did not take it as it would have altered our trajectory.

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Weyauwega, Wisconsin, derailment - Wikipedia

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Sorry if it's already been asked for in this thread, but could you park your dad in front of a camera and get him talking about what he learned in that train school for about an hour and a half?

Feel free to include any other cool stories he'd like to gab about.
 
Drummer79 said:
Local news is bad enough when the 3 women on there get to chattering about dog sweaters and fucking nonsense from one commercial break to the next and haven't said a damn thing that counts as anything.
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At least it is women. Our local news staff is mostly gay dudes and minority women reporters that can barely talk.

Yah yah. Im a hater.
 
Muckin_Slusher said:
Sorry if it's already been asked for in this thread, but could you park your dad in front of a camera and get him talking about what he learned in that train school for about an hour and a half?

Feel free to include any other cool stories he'd like to gab about.
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Lol I’m not sure he would remember enough to speak for a 1 hour and a half. This was in the 1997 or so. I remember him talking about on the non pressurized cars they would build a moat and use a dozer to pierce the car to drain it into the moat.

The pressurized cars they had a hand powered tool to drill and tap the bitch to be able to bleed it off. I remember him saying it felt like you’re gonna die from exhaustion cranking or from the bitch exploding. I’ll have to ask him about it again the next time we have some down time.

The big thing they were trying to prevent was a bleve explosion. Those are bad bad news.
 
clodhopper said:
At least it is women. Our local news staff is mostly gay dudes and minority women reporters that can barely talk.

Yah yah. Im a hater.
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you sound like the main offender! all she says is "yah" like a cali girl dipshit to anything anybody else says :laughing::flipoff2:
it's worse on weekends, they have a black girl who's not terrible to look at as the weather girl, from the neck down, but to hear her talk is horrible. and this is them from YAH girl to wayy too damn cheery at 5 am, to weather girl that OMG the english language escapes her
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Muckin_Slusher said:
Sorry if it's already been asked for in this thread, but could you park your dad in front of a camera and get him talking about what he learned in that train school for about an hour and a half?

Feel free to include any other cool stories he'd like to gab about.
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This is the best video I could find. This is what they did at the school. Takes some brass balls to tap a train car full of propane that is burning.
 
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Drummer79 said:
As big of a deal as this is, surely somewhere out there there's a guy like that guy that covered the absolute shit out of the Oroville dam disaster. I hope. And I hope the IBB finds that guy or someone becomes that guy and does it. They don't mention this at ALL on any news i've seen here in NC. I don't watch national news it just pisses me off. Local news is bad enough when the 3 women on there get to chattering about dog sweaters and fucking nonsense from one commercial break to the next and haven't said a damn thing that counts as anything.
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That's why I'm bombarding the local news fb page with it. Then they actual started making a few post on it.
 
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Splib said:
All this about "vinyl chloride". It is volatile and it is going away rapidly. It is being neutralized by nature. It's not like radio active isotopes, lead, mercury or the chlorinated hydrocarbons. Forgot 95% of my chem and haz materials but the VC will be gone and over. Dont know about what else was released but the VC is not the forever doom shit.

Any current pics, today, of the death cloud or are we gonna look at the same bullshit over and over ?
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Its "neutralized" by combining with water and forming hydrochloric (muratic) acid. Which then falls to earth and leaches into the soil. Conservation of matter. It may change form, but it doesn't just go away. Acidic soils are problematic in agriculture. Both for grazing pasture and crop ground.

Is the epa going to pay for all the lime that is going to be needed to neutralize the acidic soil? What problems are caused by consuming crops grown in ground contaminated by hydrochloric acid, both by feedstock and humans?
What about all the diesel fuel thats going to be needed to spread all that lime? Get sandiegocj on the case, he'll let you know whats what with that Ohio dirt. :flipoff2:
 
ThePanzerFuhrer said:


This is the best video I could find. This is what they did at the school. Takes some brass balls to tap a train car full or propane that is burning.
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I remember in one of our hazmat classes they were talking about hot tapping when something is on fire.
The instructor (retired firefighter who was on the city hazmat team and if half of his stories are true, ended up going around the world working for some piece of the government training other countries how to safely handle hazmat/biohazard spills/attacks) said that as long as it was still on fire you were somewhat safe, it was burning all the hydrocarbons. It's when the flame goes out that it gets REALLY dangerous...

Muckin_Slusher
Someone did an animation on a railcar hot tap:

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Essentially they put a band with a seal and a bung around the tanker or pipe, fasten it in place, attach another pipe to the bung with a cutter bit inside and a shutoff valve teed onto it.
Cut through the tank and flare it off at a "safeish" distance...

Aaron Z
 
MuntCuffin said:
Its "neutralized" by combining with water and forming hydrochloric (muratic) acid. Which then falls to earth and leaches into the soil. Conservation of matter. It may change form, but it doesn't just go away. Acidic soils are problematic in agriculture. Both for grazing pasture and crop ground.

Is the epa going to pay for all the lime that is going to be needed to neutralize the acidic soil? What problems are caused by consuming crops grown in ground contaminated by hydrochloric acid, both by feedstock and humans?
What about all the diesel fuel thats going to be needed to spread all that lime? Get sandiegocj on the case, he'll let you know whats what with that Ohio dirt. :flipoff2:
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Dammmmmmmnnnnnnn bro....


The gov not even paying heed to their own studies they funded.


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Hydrochloric acid: an overlooked driver of environmental change - PubMed

Research on the ecosystem impacts of acidifying pollutants, and measures to control them, has focused almost exclusively on sulfur (S) and nitrogen (N) compounds. Hydrochloric acid (HCl), although emitted by coal burning, has been overlooked as a driver of ecosystem change because most of it was...
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But it didn't come from coal and therefore doesn't make the green agenda monkies richer...therefore its fine....everything is fine. :rasta:
 
clodhopper said:
At least it is women. Our local news staff is mostly gay dudes and minority women reporters that can barely talk.

Yah yah. Im a hater.
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I changed watching one local news channel when they went from a fair bit of hot diversity to gay man anchor black woman co anchor and overly diversified horrible news people.

They literally made the station unwatchable for a straight white man or woman.:shaking:
 
aczlan said:
I remember in one of our hazmat classes they were talking about hot tapping when something is on fire.
The instructor (retired firefighter who was on the city hazmat team and if half of his stories are true, ended up going around the world working for some piece of the government training other countries how to safely handle hazmat/biohazard spills/attacks) said that as long as it was still on fire you were somewhat safe, it was burning all the hydrocarbons. It's when the flame goes out that it gets REALLY dangerous...

Muckin_Slusher
Someone did an animation on a railcar hot tap:

Screenshot_20230216-215018-216.png

Essentially they put a band with a seal and a bung around the tanker or pipe, fasten it in place, attach another pipe to the bung with a cutter bit inside and a shutoff valve teed onto it.
Cut through the tank and flare it off at a "safeish" distance...

Aaron Z
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Hot taps are sketchy even when there isn't a fire. I've done a few on live gas lines underwater and one we welded the hot tap on a live gas line in a coffer dam. Always figured if something went wrong, I'd never know it.
 
clodhopper said:
At least it is women. Our local news staff is mostly gay dudes and minority women reporters that can barely talk.

Yah yah. Im a hater.
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One of the Boston stations has a hot Latina milf weather lady. Only thing worth watching for. :laughing:
 
Drummer79 said:
you sound like the main offender! all she says is "yah" like a cali girl dipshit to anything anybody else says :laughing::flipoff2:
it's worse on weekends, they have a black girl who's not terrible to look at as the weather girl, from the neck down, but to hear her talk is horrible. and this is them from YAH girl to wayy too damn cheery at 5 am, to weather girl that OMG the english language escapes her
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Any one or multiple of them.
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gt1guy said:
Hot taps are sketchy even when there isn't a fire. I've done a few on live gas lines underwater and one we welded the hot tap on a live gas line in a coffer dam. Always figured if something went wrong, I'd never know it.
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They have super fancy specialized hardware now. From what the people I've talked to say it's basically not sketch at all anymore at least for nat-gas mains.
 
FJC11 said:
Oh really ? the idiots in Illinois has the river connected to great lakes, these fucks can't even keep the Asian carp out of it, what makes you think they will keep chemical run off out of it?
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because I live 5 miles from the dividing line for the river watershed and the lake watershed?
 
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