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Thefishguy77 said:
What do you want to bet they are looking at the logistics of drilling DEEP wells for their own water source?
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I'd bet heavily on not.

costs too much money.
monitoring the river and not pumping when it's nasty is standard shit around here.
same for all the cities that pump water out of the lake.

Why would you spend the money to dig wells to find water that you're going to treat anyway when it's literally laying around on the ground.

ironically I get a notice yearly for the city water having too much chromium in it. We're one of the few cities drawing water from wells around here. All the surrounding communities use pumped surface water and it's less contaminated by industry than our well water.
 
87manche said:
I'd bet heavily on not.

costs too much money.
monitoring the river and not pumping when it's nasty is standard shit around here.
same for all the cities that pump water out of the lake.

Why would you spend the money to dig wells to find water that you're going to treat anyway when it's literally laying around on the ground.

ironically I get a notice yearly for the city water having too much chromium in it. We're one of the few cities drawing water from wells around here. All the surrounding communities use pumped surface water and it's less contaminated by industry than our well water.
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Interesting. Not a west coast problem.
 
bdkw1 said:
Do you know how much rail traffic crosses bridges over the Colorado River? One crash like this over the river and the whole southwest would be fucked.
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Including CA?

Can we get a break down. What's the ratio of people who deserve it to people who don't?

Asking for a friend. :flipoff2:
 
arse_sidewards said:
Including CA?

Can we get a break down. What's the ratio of people who deserve it to people who don't?

Asking for a friend. :flipoff2:
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Especially Komifornia. Since most of thier water comes from the lower end of the river. Of course the imperial valley is pretty much the last water pull and produces the majority of the winter time produce in the US.
 
bigun said:
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Watched the video and being an ex HazMat type myself, who were the PIO (public information Officer handling dissemination of status) and what was the pedigree of the IC commander responsible for handling the fiasco, or was it a joint cluster on the part of local, state and N&S RR circle jerk stuff ? Who did these individuals directly report to cuz they AREN'T folks that work for the EPA...this is a State and industrial matter, not FED as much as folks would like to paint it as such.
 
Interesting about the number of places where "where industrial acidents" have been happening in the last couple of weeks starting at 26:02 - 28:36

 
From the Bee

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Biden Tells Residents Of East Palestine To Give Up Drinking Water For Lent

KYIV — After a surprise visit to Ukraine and a photo op with Ukrainian President Zelenskyy, some are pressing Biden on the environmental crisis in East Palestine. He finally broke his silence on the issue to reporters by suggesting those affected just give up drinking water for Lent.
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Biden Tells Residents Of East Palestine To Give Up Drinking Water For Lent
WORLD·Feb 21, 2023 · BabylonBee.com
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KYIV — After a surprise visit to Ukraine and a photo op with Ukrainian President Zelenskyy, some are pressing Biden on the environmental crisis in East Palestine. He finally broke his silence on the issue to reporters by suggesting those affected just give up drinking water for Lent.
"Listen, folks, Lent is here. Perfect timing! Not a joke!" said the President in response to a reporter. "If you're concerned about chemicals or whatever in the drinking water, just give up drinking water for Lent! Simple as that! Don't drink it! What a great opportunity to avoid toxic water while observing Lent!"
Biden then smiled to himself as he was pleased with the brilliant solution he had just offered.
Sources close to Biden say he also plans to give up something for Lent, although no one knows what it is since he said he plans to give up "flibberblorfzeprefler."
"That's right, 40 days without one single sniff of flibberblorfzeprefler!" said Biden. "If I can go without that for that long, you can go without water!"
At publishing time, the President also pledged aid to residents of East Palestine as long as they join the Ukrainian military.
 
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Aides Brief Buttigieg On Ohio Disaster Using Wooden Toy Train Set

WASHINGTON, D.C. — In preparation for his long-awaited visit to survey the damage left in the wake of the East Palestine, Ohio train derailment disaster, U.S. Secretary of Transportation Pete Buttigieg's team is briefing him on the catastrophe by using a wooden toy train set.
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Aides Brief Buttigieg On Ohio Disaster Using Wooden Toy Train Set
U.S.·Feb 22, 2023 · BabylonBee.com
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WASHINGTON, D.C. — In preparation for his long-awaited visit to survey the damage left in the wake of the East Palestine, Ohio train derailment disaster, U.S. Secretary of Transportation Pete Buttigieg's team is briefing him on the catastrophe by using a wooden toy train set.
"Chugga chugga chugga — TOOT TOOT! Uh oh! Choo choo go boom!'" said Pete excitedly as aides brought out a toy recreation of the derailment. "Wooo Woooooooo! I'm a conductor!"
"We figured this would be the best way to help him understand," said top Buttigieg aide Michael Fitzpatrick. "Dealing with complex problems with a lot of moving parts and sensitive elements isn't exactly Secretary Buttigieg's strong suit. These little wooden toys from Ikea really come in handy."
Buttigieg is finally commenting on the train derailment that has resulted in a release and controlled burn of toxic chemicals and is planning to visit the region soon. Aides quickly found the Secretary's basic knowledge of the incident — and the state of Ohio in general — to be severely lacking. "He initially thought we were referring to Palestine, like in the Middle East," said Patrick Fitzmichael, another close Buttigieg advisor. "We had to grab a globe and show him where Ohio is. After that, using the little toy train set seemed like a good idea."
Sources who were present at the closed-door briefing described the scene as "fun" and "playful," but also "disturbing" and "unbefitting of national leadership."
At publishing time, the Buttigieg team was scrambling to find an adult-sized train conductor's hat, which the Secretary had demanded if he was going to visit the derailment site.
 
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Pete Buttigieg dons a hard hat when he finally shows up to East Palestine -- 20 days after train wreck · American Wire News

Buttigieg visited East Palestine 20 days after a train derailment took place contaminating the entire town and forcing residents to flee.
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ete Buttigieg dons a hard hat when he finally shows up to East Palestine — 20 days after train wreck​

February 23, 2023 | Terresa Monroe-Hamilton

Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg at long last deigned to visit East Palestine, Ohio, on Thursday, 20 days after a toxic train derailment took place effectively contaminating the entire town and forcing residents to flee in fear for their lives over the spill.

He ridiculously wore a hard hat as he toured the site of the catastrophe with investigators a day after former President Trump spoke to residents in the town, telling them they had been betrayed by the Biden White House and the federal government. There’s no word whether he drank the water from the town’s supply or not.

About 50 rail cars, including 10 carrying toxic chemicals, derailed on the evening of Feb. 3 in East Palestine. Officials conducted a controlled release of vinyl chloride from some of the cars three days later to ostensibly avoid an explosion, sending hydrogen chloride and phosgene into the air which reportedly wound up in the water table.



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Buttigieg has been excoriated for not coming to the site sooner. He claimed he didn’t want to distract from those handling the aftermath of the spill. Pretty much no one is buying that lame excuse. Republicans and Democrats both hammered him for his slow response to the toxic spill that is engendering fears of long-term illnesses including cancer. Pets and wildlife have reportedly died from the deadly chemical mess.

The transportation secretary spoke to National Transportation Safety Board investigators 24 hours after Trump handed out water, food, and cleaning supplies to residents and praised the courage of first responders, according to the Daily Mail.

Buttigieg tweeted Thursday morning, “This morning I’m in East Palestine, Ohio, to see the site of the Norfolk Southern derailment, hear updates from investigators, and meet first responders. USDOT will continue its work to ensure safety and accountability.”

He also met with some members of the community there and predictably took time to blame Trump for the catastrophe.

This morning I’m in East Palestine, Ohio, to see the site of the Norfolk Southern derailment, hear updates from investigators, and meet first responders. USDOT will continue its work to ensure safety and accountability. pic.twitter.com/okA6WI7uzI
— Secretary Pete Buttigieg (@SecretaryPete) February 23, 2023
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Happy to discuss timing of our Ohio visit – but starting to think some in Washington want that to be the main focus so that there aren’t too many questions about rail safety regulation, who is for and who is against.
We will hold the line on railroad safety and accountability.

— Secretary Pete Buttigieg (@SecretaryPete) February 23, 2023
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Democrats are furiously attempting to blame Trump and Republicans for the catastrophe, but the narrative is falling flat with Americans.

The “effort by Fox News and Republicans” to use the pain of the East Palestine community “as a political weapon is both enraging and demeaning,” an anonymous senior Democrat told Politico.


“These are bad faith attacks from Republicans who have been in lockstep with the rail lobby to unravel safety protections,” White House Deputy Press Secretary Andrew Bates remarked.

Buttigieg and the EPA are now demanding that Norfolk Southern pays for the clean-up operation in East Palestine while the administration investigates the site. The railway has now claimed they take “full responsibility” for the derailment.

We cannot allow multibillion dollar rail companies to widen their profit margins at the expense of the health and safety of American families and the environment. pic.twitter.com/BYv3DYgU3Y
— TransportationGov (@USDOT) February 22, 2023
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The former Indiana mayor had an awkward encounter earlier in the week with a Daily Caller reporter who confronted him on the street over the spill. Buttigieg confirmed he was going to East Palestine and then bizarrely attempted to take a photo of journalist Jennie Taer while he was walking around Washington, DC with his husband Chasten.

“Well, I’d refer you to about a dozen interviews I’ve given today and if you’d like to arrange a conversation, make sure to reach out to our press office,” Buttigieg told Taer.

He informed her that he wasn’t going to “have that conversation with you just walking down the street here.”

“You don’t have a message for them?” she asked.

“I do and I’ve shared it with the press many times today and I refer you to those comments,” Buttigieg replied.

The reporter further pressed Buttigieg on the issue and he wasn’t about to answer her, “No. I’m going to refer you to the comments I made to the press because right now I’m taking some personal time and I’m walking down the street.”
 
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