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Newscum has gone completely insane

KarlVP said:
They tried that in Sultan, and the state took this guys liquor license for 6 months.

What pisses me off is they didn't shut the place down, they just took his liquor license. If they were violating COVID precautions why not completely shut the place down.

https://www.heraldnet.com/news/sulta...id-violations/
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I heard. Its going to take a large percentage of the owners to stand up or nothing will change. I somewhat chastised a group of business owners I was talking with when we were allowed to “open” up. I basically said at this point most all your clients are screaming mad at the government. Get the support of your cients and refuse to open until the government gets out of the way. Everybody was done! But nope we just want to do what they say so we can get back to work. Now this shit again amd I said “I told you so”. :lmao:

Its going to take some time again to get the people willing to scream at government again. They had their salon appointments and ate out a few times. They can kneel another 2-3 months again. Fucking pussies.
 
"Since we last heard from Newsom and Ghaly Monday, COVID-19 cases have continued a steep climb in the state. More than 11,000 new cases were reported in California over the past 24 hours -- the highest number we've seen since the start of the fall surge. Another 106 people have died as a result of the virus, bringing the state's death toll to 18,466."

quote from OP's article, i just want to remind everyone that theres only been 18,466 DEATHS in CA out of a population of 39,960,000
 
Arickvan said:
"Since we last heard from Newsom and Ghaly Monday, COVID-19 cases have continued a steep climb in the state. More than 11,000 new cases were reported in California over the past 24 hours -- the highest number we've seen since the start of the fall surge. Another 106 people have died as a result of the virus, bringing the state's death toll to 18,466."

quote from OP's article, i just want to remind everyone that theres only been 18,466 DEATHS in CA out of a population of 39,960,000
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and if it weren't for decisive early intervention from gavin newsom, there would be approximately 20 million cases in CA alone and nearly 1 million deaths
 
Statistical disconnect. The assumption is the applied corrections (masks, distancing, shut downs, etc.) should have a direct correlation to the number of infections and deaths. Any rise in cases and deaths is immediately assumed to be due to people not following the mandated corrections. The population as a whole is doing pretty well following the rules. Even if you generously attribute some of the rise to people behaving badly, there are many other impacts that cannot be controlled, such as weather (seasonal) changes. Even if you incorporate all that into your figures and still the cases and deaths are increasing, then it is proper to go back to the applied corrections to evaluate if those are having any impact on the problem. Some might be so ineffective as to be useless or the corrections are not addressing some significant contributing factor that hasn't been identified yet.

Yet, the only things we are seeing is the same corrections becoming stricter, and blame continued to be placed on the population for "not following the rules" despite the lack of obvious and widespread violation of these rules.

And the govt is surprised when the people express covid fatigue.
 
Harry Johnson said:
All this arguing and no one has mentioned that there's no way Gary stays up until 10 anyways?!? You guys are slipping.
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if more people cared about shit that doesn't solely and directly significantly effect them, the world would be a better place :flipoff2:

:gary: has > empathy than Harry Johnson :eek: never thought we'd see the day :rasta:
 
Provience said:
and if it weren't for decisive early intervention from gavin newsom, there would be approximately 20 million cases in CA alone and nearly 1 million deaths
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i was alright with the original 2 week shutdown, back when we didnt know

and idk if thats a fair estimation, that may be one of those things that "we may never know what would have been"
 
Provience said:
. . . if more people cared about shit that doesn't solely and directly significantly effect them, the world would be a better place :flipoff2: . . .
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Interesting statement. I would have said that the biggest problem we face is people caring about shit that doesn't solely and directly significantly effect them. :smokin:
 
Arickvan said:
i was alright with the original 2 week shutdown, back when we didnt know

and idk if thats a fair estimation, that may be one of those things that "we may never know what would have been"
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that was his justification and what he stated was the Extreme Upper Limit of possibility at the time, not the average, not the likely. he went to his press conference and used the Extreme to present to the people as if it were reality. and he hasn't backed down since.

even though we well know it was wrong, and by a massive factor, the response hasn't changed by anything close to appropriate
 
Eric said:
Interesting statement. I would have said that the biggest problem we face is people caring about shit that doesn't solely and directly significantly effect them. :smokin:
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if you vote for and support or allow the narrative to grow and be bold simply because it doesn't directly, solely and significantly impact them.

treat it with skepticism or be against restrictions if you don't consider them to be impacting your life :rasta:
 
Provience said:
that was his justification and what he stated was the Extreme Upper Limit of possibility at the time, not the average, not the likely. he went to his press conference and used the Extreme to present to the people as if it were reality. and he hasn't backed down since.

even though we well know it was wrong, and by a massive factor, the response hasn't changed by anything close to appropriate
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ah i see what ya did there:laughing:

and now the average joe is being shown the the real numbers ~.001 deaths ~.01 infection, but its like yelling nice things to a dog, all they hear is the yelling
 
Can you translate that into something a simpleton can comprehend?


Provience said:
if you vote for and support or allow the narrative to grow and be bold simply because it doesn't directly, solely and significantly impact them.

treat it with skepticism or be against restrictions if you don't consider them to be impacting your life :rasta:
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Eric said:
Can you translate that into something a simpleton can comprehend?
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"First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me."
 
Eric said:
Can you translate that into something a simpleton can comprehend?
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when newsome says "It is illegal to be outside at night" and people say "alright, well i'm asleep at night, so fine by me" they are acting in a worse way than people who say "well, that's some bullshit, even though i'm asleep at night" :flipoff2:
 
Eric said:
Interesting statement. I would have said that the biggest problem we face is people caring about shit that doesn't solely and directly significantly effect them. :smokin:
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It does affect me, it's a violation of my right to travel, and that's a big deal, unless you don't give a fuck if the government violates your rights.
 
Provience said:
that was his justification and what he stated was the Extreme Upper Limit of possibility at the time, not the average, not the likely. he went to his press conference and used the Extreme to present to the people as if it were reality. and he hasn't backed down since.

even though we well know it was wrong, and by a massive factor, the response hasn't changed by anything close to appropriate
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Exactly. The .gov response to the Kung Flu is completely overblown.
 
Provience said:
when newsome says "It is illegal to be outside at night" and people say "alright, well i'm asleep at night, so fine by me" they are acting in a worse way than people who say "well, that's some bullshit, even though i'm asleep at night" :flipoff2:
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"You can tap my phones, I don't have anything to hide."

Hate those people.
 
Our sheriff is awesome. Plus he is pro-CCW and really easy to talk to, I shoot USPSA matches with him on occasion.

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Does kind of make you wonder what type of enforcement will be involved with wearing a mask. I guess where I am, all public spaces they need to be worn now. What happens if I don't? I going to get tackled at the park with my boy for not wearing one? Arrested at the hardware store? Grocery store?
 
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Our sheriff is awesome. Plus he is pro-CCW and really easy to talk to, I shoot USPSA matches with him on occasion.
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The pearl clutching and hysteria directly at him is beyond funny on the Book of Faces. He just wants you to die. I'm not going to donate to sheriff anymore. You better not want to go to the hospital. etc:lmao:
 
woods said:
Does kind of make you wonder what type of enforcement will be involved with wearing a mask. I guess where I am, all public spaces they need to be worn now. What happens if I don't? I going to get tackled at the park with my boy for not wearing one? Arrested at the hardware store? Grocery store?
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From what I've read. You get an initial warning, then a fine up to $250, but no jail time. But I only see that posted by the city.

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Penalties for not complying with this order:
  • First time violations: Verbal or written warning.
  • Subsequent violations: Fine not to exceed $250.
A person may not be detained, arrested, or confined in jail for refusing to adhere to this order. However, law enforcement may consider someone who refuses to leave the premises a trespasser and may enforce trespassing laws accordingly.
 
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SanDiegoCJ said:
It does affect me, it's a violation of my right to travel, and that's a big deal, unless you don't give a fuck if the government violates your rights.
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Understood. And agreed. But Provience made a broad statement that could be interpreted as people sticking their nose into other peoples business is a good thing. Which its not. My point was that people need to mind their own business and stay out of other peoples business . . . and that includes a governor telling me when and if I can move about.
 
TRINDU said:
From what I've read. You get an initial warning, then a fine up to $250, but no jail time. But I only see that posted by the city.

Can I get a warning in a city, then a warning in every other city in TX? What about in the county?
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So like, they going to LEOs on guard at parks and busy areas handing out tickets? People calling cops to go after people? I can't see this panning out too well. :laughing:
 
woods said:
Does kind of make you wonder what type of enforcement will be involved with wearing a mask. I guess where I am, all public spaces they need to be worn now. What happens if I don't? I going to get tackled at the park with my boy for not wearing one? Arrested at the hardware store? Grocery store?
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I'm fixin' to find out here right quick. I woke up to an announcement this morning, masks must be worn outside the home, no pleasure travel, no guests in your house, bla bla bla:laughing:

Heading out for groceries and Costco now sans mask. If I don't post up in the FNLC tonight it's because I am in jail or something.:laughing:
 
I will comply with mask requests going into a business I like because if they don't enforce the mask policy they can be hassled by the health dept and it escalates from there. But outside, I don't wear one.
 
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